The Democratic Candidates
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Let's not forget Hillary whupped Bernie 55 to 43. That's not particularly close. So I'm not sure I buy that Democrats are being sexist with the current leaders. The two top dogs are clearly the most known. That has a ton to do with it at this point.0
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I personally don't think that democrats are being sexist, but there definitely is a case to be made that the media coverage (or lack there of) is sexist.mrussel1 said:Let's not forget Hillary whupped Bernie 55 to 43. That's not particularly close. So I'm not sure I buy that Democrats are being sexist with the current leaders. The two top dogs are clearly the most known. That has a ton to do with it at this point.0 -
Democratic Candidates.....LOL
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Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?That is your perspective...Your opinion is very definitive but I do not agree.We all can have our opinions...that is OK.America is too dumb, overall, to do the right thing. This is how we got stuck with Chief Dumbo Drop as POTUS. Personally I am happy to vote for a woman, a person of color, a man, or whomever I like best for the job. Having a penis or a vagina will not automatically make someone the best, for POTUS, in my estimation.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Saw a documentary about John McCain on HBO and I was surprised how negative he/they portrayed Palin and picking her as VP - pretty much stated "Sarah Palin was what lead us to Trump"mcgruff10 said:
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Not a fan of warren at all. I really think Biden and Beto could beat trump/pence. Beto could actually make Texas close.PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I believe that largely to be true. She was the beginning. She is what really got the Tea Party ball rolling, and she is what completely destroyed all logical political standards for leadership in the White House once and for all for a huge swath of Republican voters (the dumb ones - it's amazing how many of those there are).Spiritual_Chaos said:
Saw a documentary about John McCain on HBO and I was surprised how negative he/they portrayed Palin and picking her as VP - pretty much stated "Sarah Palin was what lead us to Trump"mcgruff10 said:
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
how is it a a "really really really really dumb question" when you stated this: There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great womanPJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
and your last statement you just added is quite a horribly sexist thing to say. what does being a man have to do with any one of us not being able to understand where you are coming from?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
That you are not a fan of her is neither here nor there in terms of what I'm saying here though.mcgruff10 said:
Not a fan of warren at all. I really think Biden and Beto could beat trump/pence. Beto could actually make Texas close.PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I don't think that's a fair statement to us.PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
Which women are bringing more to the table than let’s say Biden and Bernie?PJ_Soul said:
That everyone is pretty much completely focused on the men as all the front runners, despite the fact that there are women who actually bring more to the table. The males just automatically floated to the top.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What do you mean? What do the polls show in that context?PJ_Soul said:
HA!! Yeah, against a guy who said grab her by the pussy???? That does say a LOT about how people feel about voting for a female POTUS: that they aren't willing to. I think it is the height of naivety to think that Trump winning didn't have something to do with sexism. To me that is crazy talk. Pure denial. YES, America is too sexist to elect a female, and the polls compared to the quality of the dem candidates right now help prove it.my2hands said:
Bullshit... America is too sexist for a woman Potus? Typical horseshit broad stereotyping of Americans on the AMT...PJ_Soul said:
The point is that there is no way in hell that they can't find "the right person" in a woman, considering how underrepresented women are by government (and considering that a woman has never held either of the two spots in the history of the nation), combined with the number of amazing women there are to choose from. There is no way in hell that a male running mate would be best over a great woman. Well, the right person for POTUS is a woman too, but America is still too sexist for that probably.F Me In The Brain said:Why?
I'm all for the P or VP being the right person, regardless of gender...but why would a male P need to choose a female running mate?
You forgot a woman just got 3 million more votes than her opponent in a national election?
Guess what, we aslo voted for a black man, twice!
Did you think Sarah Palin was a good vp choice?Warren is bringing more than anyone, period. And Harris is bringing more than Biden. And both of them are bringing more than Beto and Buttigieg. Yet all 4 are topping the polls.And that is a really really really really dumb question. Obviously not. I am not someone who just think any idiot is better just because she's female.FWIW, I don't expect a single one of you men to believe or even really understand what I'm saying on this matter, lol.
Second, I don't like what Warren is bringing. She's just throwing every possible policy against the wall and seeing what sticks. I mean, break up Amazon and Google? Are you kidding me? Im not voting for that.
I like Biden because he's moderate. Im a moderate. I tend to believe Harris is closer to moderate but I don't know enough yet. Biden is known to me and he brings a wealth of experience particularly in foreign policy. Warren, Harris and Amy don't come close.0 -
Here's an opinion piece that pretty well matches my own.
The only thing wrong with Elizabeth Warren’s campaign is the sexist way we react to it
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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I don't agree with that, based on who I want on the ticket to lead the country I live in....but, I get what you are saying and know that many believe that statement. (In general, but especially in the efforts to topple The Grand Wizard Trump.)HughFreakingDillon said:as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.
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Correct. To me that person is Beto.HughFreakingDillon said:as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
What if there are several options that would help with that though?HughFreakingDillon said:as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.
As in, it's not being a case like this:
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
How about her terrible policy positions? That's my problem. Has she embraced MMT policy yet? Im just waiting.PJ_Soul said:Here's an opinion piece that pretty well matches my own.The only thing wrong with Elizabeth Warren’s campaign is the sexist way we react to it
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I don’t think you can pick the right VP without knowing the Pmcgruff10 said:
Correct. To me that person is Beto.HughFreakingDillon said:as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more.
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What unique appeal does Beto have that Pete (or even Bernie) wouldn't have?mcgruff10 said:
Correct. To me that person is Beto.HughFreakingDillon said:as someone else stated previously, the right person for VP is the right person for POTUS to get elected. nothing more."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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