Canadian Politics Redux

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited April 2019
    Meltdown99 said:
    Kenney outlines pipeline war plan during campaign stop in Fort McMurray

    https://edmontonsun.com/news/provincial/kenney-outlines-pipeline-war-plan-during-campaign-stop-in-fort-mcmurray?fbclid=IwAR1vl5NMEodKbV2huwiOu3yqGEG-rX4JBqbSJzspToG3owVKmyZx_PS3MbE

    Reacting to news that gas prices in Metro Vancouver reached as high as $1.64 per litre on Monday, Kenney promised “that’s just an appetizer.”

    “The mayor of Vancouver says he… wants a carbon-free Vancouver by 2040,” said Kenney “If he blocks our oil, we can give him a carbon-free Vancouver by 2020.”

    LOL.  Who says Canadian politics are boring...


    Idiot.

    For the record, BC has always paid a ton for gas. The existing pipeline has offered us nothing provinces completely detached from the pipeline process share in except for a few spots where it puked on our soil.

    Say nothing of the carbon or coastal concerns... there has been no advantage for BC residents that make twinning the pipeline an attractive thing to do. Short term jobs are just that. Long term jobs would be minimal at best and potentially outnumber the jobs lost at the coast. And... there's risk: the last oil spill was much bigger than they originally expressed (yup... they lied... shocker, eh?).

    Alberta doesn't have a coast. If it wants access to one... it should play nicely with provinces that do- not threaten and try to bully them- it just fortifies the resistance. $2 per liter? Oh well. Just drive less I guess. Gas should cost more than bottled water. 
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Kenney outlines pipeline war plan during campaign stop in Fort McMurray

    https://edmontonsun.com/news/provincial/kenney-outlines-pipeline-war-plan-during-campaign-stop-in-fort-mcmurray?fbclid=IwAR1vl5NMEodKbV2huwiOu3yqGEG-rX4JBqbSJzspToG3owVKmyZx_PS3MbE

    Reacting to news that gas prices in Metro Vancouver reached as high as $1.64 per litre on Monday, Kenney promised “that’s just an appetizer.”

    “The mayor of Vancouver says he… wants a carbon-free Vancouver by 2040,” said Kenney “If he blocks our oil, we can give him a carbon-free Vancouver by 2020.”

    LOL.  Who says Canadian politics are boring...


    Idiot.

    For the record, BC has always paid a ton for gas. The existing pipeline has offered us nothing provinces completely detached from the pipeline process share in except for a few spots where it puked on our soil.

    Say nothing of the carbon or coastal concerns... there has been no advantage for BC residents that make twinning the pipeline an attractive thing to do. Short term jobs are just that. Long term jobs would be minimal at best and potentially outnumber the jobs lost at the coast. And... there's risk: the last oil spill was much bigger than they originally expressed (yup... they lied... shocker, eh?).

    Alberta doesn't have a coast. If it wants access to one... it should play nicely with provinces that do- not threaten and try to bully them- it just fortifies the resistance. $2 per liter? Oh well. Just drive less I guess. Gas should cost more than bottled water. 
    I do not think a pipeline needs to be run west, but energy east always made the most sense...but thanks to some Saudi lobbying we will continue to buy oil from a horrible country...one of the worst countries in the world, we have plenty of oil to stop buying from them, but a French PM will screw every province over including BC to keep them happy in Quebec.  And if Notley is right, the shovels go into the ground in the summer...so the pipeline is being built.

    Either way, it matters little to me about trans mountain.  We need to STOP buying Saudi oil.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Meltdown99 said:
    Kenney outlines pipeline war plan during campaign stop in Fort McMurray

    https://edmontonsun.com/news/provincial/kenney-outlines-pipeline-war-plan-during-campaign-stop-in-fort-mcmurray?fbclid=IwAR1vl5NMEodKbV2huwiOu3yqGEG-rX4JBqbSJzspToG3owVKmyZx_PS3MbE

    Reacting to news that gas prices in Metro Vancouver reached as high as $1.64 per litre on Monday, Kenney promised “that’s just an appetizer.”

    “The mayor of Vancouver says he… wants a carbon-free Vancouver by 2040,” said Kenney “If he blocks our oil, we can give him a carbon-free Vancouver by 2020.”

    LOL.  Who says Canadian politics are boring...

    The Albertan politicians are just so ridiculous it hurts. I'm so glad I don't live there.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Kenny was born in Ontario and raised in Sask.

    I don't know what we did to deserve him in Alberta, that slimeball is such an embarrassment.

    I'm proud Notley is my premier, but unfortunately not for long.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited April 2019
    dignin said:
    Kenny was born in Ontario and raised in Sask.

    I don't know what we did to deserve him in Alberta, that slimeball is such an embarrassment.

    I'm proud Notley is my premier, but unfortunately not for long.
    He is terrible! I don't like Notley either, maybe for obvious reasons if you can empathize with how she comes off to British Colombians. But she's a hell of a lot better than that psycho Kenney. I can't believe he might win. It's making me very nervous... and causing me to wonder about a whole lot of Albertans, sorry (not you!).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    Kenny was born in Ontario and raised in Sask.

    I don't know what we did to deserve him in Alberta, that slimeball is such an embarrassment.

    I'm proud Notley is my premier, but unfortunately not for long.
    He is terrible! I don't like Notley either, maybe for obvious reasons if you can empathize with how she comes off to British Colombians. But she's a hell of a lot better than that psycho Kenney. I can't believe he might win. It's making me very nervous... and causing me to wonder about a whole lot of Albertans, sorry.
    It's not really close unfortunately. The NDP is consistently about 10 points behind in the polls. We got lucky with the split PC/Wildrose vote last election but now it's only progressive parties splitting the vote the other way this time around.

    Calgary is going to decide this election.

    It's gonna take a miracle for the NDP to pull off the upset this time, and Alberta will go back to it's eggs all in the dying oil industry basket. Were pretty much fucked.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited April 2019
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    Kenny was born in Ontario and raised in Sask.

    I don't know what we did to deserve him in Alberta, that slimeball is such an embarrassment.

    I'm proud Notley is my premier, but unfortunately not for long.
    He is terrible! I don't like Notley either, maybe for obvious reasons if you can empathize with how she comes off to British Colombians. But she's a hell of a lot better than that psycho Kenney. I can't believe he might win. It's making me very nervous... and causing me to wonder about a whole lot of Albertans, sorry.
    It's not really close unfortunately. The NDP is consistently about 10 points behind in the polls. We got lucky with the split PC/Wildrose vote last election but now it's only progressive parties splitting the vote the other way this time around.

    Calgary is going to decide this election.

    It's gonna take a miracle for the NDP to pull off the upset this time, and Alberta will go back to it's eggs all in the dying oil industry basket. Were pretty much fucked.
    Outrageous. That's fucked. I'm so sorry. I'd be absolutely horrified if I were you. I am, and don't even live there... Although the threats to immediately shut off the gas to BC if he wins are disturbing... though I don't think he could get away with it if he tried.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    Kenny was born in Ontario and raised in Sask.

    I don't know what we did to deserve him in Alberta, that slimeball is such an embarrassment.

    I'm proud Notley is my premier, but unfortunately not for long.
    He is terrible! I don't like Notley either, maybe for obvious reasons if you can empathize with how she comes off to British Colombians. But she's a hell of a lot better than that psycho Kenney. I can't believe he might win. It's making me very nervous... and causing me to wonder about a whole lot of Albertans, sorry.
    It's not really close unfortunately. The NDP is consistently about 10 points behind in the polls. We got lucky with the split PC/Wildrose vote last election but now it's only progressive parties splitting the vote the other way this time around.

    Calgary is going to decide this election.

    It's gonna take a miracle for the NDP to pull off the upset this time, and Alberta will go back to it's eggs all in the dying oil industry basket. Were pretty much fucked.
    Outrageous. That's fucked. I'm so sorry. I'd be absolutely horrified if I were you. I am, and don't even live there... Although the threats to immediately shut off the gas to BC if he wins are disturbing... though I don't think he could get away with it if he tried.
    Why can't he get away with it?  BC has made it clear that the coastline is THEIRS.  So I guess any oil and gas in the ground belongs to Albertans, and if he wins (likely with a strong mandate from the people)...and that is part of his platform...I see no reason he cannot turn off the taps.  Why should you care if he turns off the tap?  Buy your oil and gas from the US.  Or are you telling us that too much of your oil and gas come from Alberta?  Then I guess you shouldn't have left so much of your Oil and Gas needs in the hands of a province you clearly dislike...

    And if gas spikes above $2/litre BC should be happy...you are opposed to carbon use...that's one to get people to drive/make better choices.

    So you should rejoice at the concept of $2/l gas ... 

    But BC is not, they sued to stop a pipeline, then they sued to keep Alberta oil flowing... kind of sending a mixed message of what you want.


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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    Kenny was born in Ontario and raised in Sask.

    I don't know what we did to deserve him in Alberta, that slimeball is such an embarrassment.

    I'm proud Notley is my premier, but unfortunately not for long.
    He is terrible! I don't like Notley either, maybe for obvious reasons if you can empathize with how she comes off to British Colombians. But she's a hell of a lot better than that psycho Kenney. I can't believe he might win. It's making me very nervous... and causing me to wonder about a whole lot of Albertans, sorry.
    It's not really close unfortunately. The NDP is consistently about 10 points behind in the polls. We got lucky with the split PC/Wildrose vote last election but now it's only progressive parties splitting the vote the other way this time around.

    Calgary is going to decide this election.

    It's gonna take a miracle for the NDP to pull off the upset this time, and Alberta will go back to it's eggs all in the dying oil industry basket. Were pretty much fucked.
    Outrageous. That's fucked. I'm so sorry. I'd be absolutely horrified if I were you. I am, and don't even live there... Although the threats to immediately shut off the gas to BC if he wins are disturbing... though I don't think he could get away with it if he tried.
    Why can't he get away with it?  BC has made it clear that the coastline is THEIRS.  So I guess any oil and gas in the ground belongs to Albertans, and if he wins (likely with a strong mandate from the people)...and that is part of his platform...I see no reason he cannot turn off the taps.  Why should you care if he turns off the tap?  Buy your oil and gas from the US.  Or are you telling us that too much of your oil and gas come from Alberta?  Then I guess you shouldn't have left so much of your Oil and Gas needs in the hands of a province you clearly dislike...

    And if gas spikes above $2/litre BC should be happy...you are opposed to carbon use...that's one to get people to drive/make better choices.

    So you should rejoice at the concept of $2/l gas ... 

    But BC is not, they sued to stop a pipeline, then they sued to keep Alberta oil flowing... kind of sending a mixed message of what you want.



    Mostly because the courts have held that a province can't unilaterally decide to restrict such trade to one province and not another in a punitive manner. 

    But I am fine with gas being expensive. It should be. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited April 2019
    He couldn't get away with it because of the courts.
    But also, the issue is being used by both of these yahoos as pure propaganda. And it seems to be working, even on Meltdown, who doesn't even live in Alberta, lol. Based on your little knee jerk reaction in your last post dude, you're a bit of a fiddle in this case... but one that nobody cares about in the context of this issue.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    Kenny was born in Ontario and raised in Sask.

    I don't know what we did to deserve him in Alberta, that slimeball is such an embarrassment.

    I'm proud Notley is my premier, but unfortunately not for long.
    He is terrible! I don't like Notley either, maybe for obvious reasons if you can empathize with how she comes off to British Colombians. But she's a hell of a lot better than that psycho Kenney. I can't believe he might win. It's making me very nervous... and causing me to wonder about a whole lot of Albertans, sorry.
    It's not really close unfortunately. The NDP is consistently about 10 points behind in the polls. We got lucky with the split PC/Wildrose vote last election but now it's only progressive parties splitting the vote the other way this time around.

    Calgary is going to decide this election.

    It's gonna take a miracle for the NDP to pull off the upset this time, and Alberta will go back to it's eggs all in the dying oil industry basket. Were pretty much fucked.
    Outrageous. That's fucked. I'm so sorry. I'd be absolutely horrified if I were you. I am, and don't even live there... Although the threats to immediately shut off the gas to BC if he wins are disturbing... though I don't think he could get away with it if he tried.
    Why can't he get away with it?  BC has made it clear that the coastline is THEIRS.  So I guess any oil and gas in the ground belongs to Albertans, and if he wins (likely with a strong mandate from the people)...and that is part of his platform...I see no reason he cannot turn off the taps.  Why should you care if he turns off the tap?  Buy your oil and gas from the US.  Or are you telling us that too much of your oil and gas come from Alberta?  Then I guess you shouldn't have left so much of your Oil and Gas needs in the hands of a province you clearly dislike...

    And if gas spikes above $2/litre BC should be happy...you are opposed to carbon use...that's one to get people to drive/make better choices.

    So you should rejoice at the concept of $2/l gas ... 

    But BC is not, they sued to stop a pipeline, then they sued to keep Alberta oil flowing... kind of sending a mixed message of what you want.



    Why the bold THEIRS? Do you think the people that have their homes and lives there should feel it is just as much Ontario's... or Saskatchewan's... or Alberta's? The oil and gas lying in Alberta's soil is their resource.

    BC does not dislike Alberta at all. BC is kind of tired of the recent antics, but no more tired of them than a sibling might be at another for poor momentary behaviour. We'll both get over it.

    And I'm fine with paying $2 per liter just so long as you do too. Rejoice is not the correct term. And if Alberta wants to shut the taps off... then shut them off. Does Kenney think that would be good for constituents? We will buy gas from the US. Do you think our cars are going to be rendered useless and we are solely reliant upon dirty oil?
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If BC and Quebec want to put up barriers for other provinces to move their resources, then those provinces effected can refuse to sell resources to BC and Quebec...

    What's the problem?  You in BC should be HAPPY...no oil coming into your province will help you become carbon-free...is that not what you want? 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Meltdown99 said:
    If BC and Quebec want to put up barriers for other provinces to move their resources, then those provinces effected can refuse to sell resources to BC and Quebec...

    What's the problem?  You in BC should be HAPPY...no oil coming into your province will help you become carbon-free...is that not what you want? 
    What response are you looking for? You're being childish.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    lol
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    Judge...It does not matter how they achieved reductions.

    Judge...why do you not leave them alone?

    Because Trudeau's a dope.  

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    The liberals are headed for defeat in PEI and never requested a Trudeau visit.   LOL.

    And what's up with the NDP, they seriously need to either rebrand the party or take a serious look at their policies.  Other than BC (and they have only a minority), I see them as a threat to no one politically anymore.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    Not sure why anyone would buy government weed??  
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Meltdown99 said:


    Not sure why anyone would buy government weed??  

    Because they like their weed safe and not the variety grown in a bath tub by shitbirds with chunks of fentanyl interspersed in it.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Not sure why anyone would buy government weed??  

    Because they like their weed safe and not the variety grown in a bath tub by shitbirds with chunks of fentanyl interspersed in it.
    this. the lack of anxiety alone is worth the price. and honestly, I guess the prices of street weed in winnipeg are not in line with the rest of the country. I'm honestly not paying much more legally than I did illegally. 
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