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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,578
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Was it racist when 9% of democratic black voters stayed home in 2016 because a black person wasn't on the ticket, handing the election to Big Don?

    Why else would they stay home during the largest voter turnout ever? Oh, right, Russian hashtags 

    Everyone scared to touch that one? Lol
    Low voter turnout is weaksauce. More like racist Obama voters switched to trump in 2016: 

    “A new study shows that this response isn’t as powerful as it may seem. The study, from three political scientists from around the country, takes a statistical look at a large sample of Obama-Trump switchers. It finds that these voters tended to score highly on measures of racial hostility and xenophobia — and were not especially likely to be suffering economically.”

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm
    Here we go again..... evil racists voted for a black guy twice, then realized they were racist and voted Trump... yeah, i call bullshit, doesnt even pass a sniff test..... 

    Fact: black support for the democratic candidate fell 9% nationally between 2012-2016... even more so from 2008...

    Black turnout dropped 19% in Wisconsin!!!!!! Hillary lost that state by less than 1% right?

    https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/study-black-voter-turnout-in-wisconsin-declined-by-nearly-one/article_d3e72e41-96a0-51fb-83ba-11dfc6693daf.html

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/11/why-black-voters-in-milwaukee-werent-enthused-by-clinton.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html

    Soak in those articles my fellow AMT'ers then get back to me.....

    Hillary also LOST white women in 2016 nationally....

    So can we stop with the Russian memes and  bullshit forcefed narrative that sexism and white racism lost the election..... the black vote dropped fucking 19% in Wisconsin.... i'm sure someone will find a way to still blame it on Putin, or evil white people lol


    Now that you mention Putin, he did want trump to win. Fueling a “crooked Hillary” narrative certainly didn’t inspire high turnout. 


    Lol, pretty weak rebuttal....

    Black voter turnout dropped 19% in Wisconsin. Putin didn't win the election, the Democrats LOST the election

    The sooner everybody starts dealing with reality, the sooner we can try and win 2020.
    I wasn’t really making a rebuttal, although Clinton’s negatives were in a lot of ways manufactured. You’re not treading in dangerous untouchable ground by discussing lower black voter turnout. It get discussed in the media every election amd gets discussed in the primary season regarding which candidate appeals to whom. 

  • Go Beavers
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    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Was it racist when 9% of democratic black voters stayed home in 2016 because a black person wasn't on the ticket, handing the election to Big Don?

    Why else would they stay home during the largest voter turnout ever? Oh, right, Russian hashtags 

    Everyone scared to touch that one? Lol
    Low voter turnout is weaksauce. More like racist Obama voters switched to trump in 2016: 

    “A new study shows that this response isn’t as powerful as it may seem. The study, from three political scientists from around the country, takes a statistical look at a large sample of Obama-Trump switchers. It finds that these voters tended to score highly on measures of racial hostility and xenophobia — and were not especially likely to be suffering economically.”

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm
    Here we go again..... evil racists voted for a black guy twice, then realized they were racist and voted Trump... yeah, i call bullshit, doesnt even pass a sniff test..... 

    Fact: black support for the democratic candidate fell 9% nationally between 2012-2016... even more so from 2008...

    Black turnout dropped 19% in Wisconsin!!!!!! Hillary lost that state by less than 1% right?

    https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/study-black-voter-turnout-in-wisconsin-declined-by-nearly-one/article_d3e72e41-96a0-51fb-83ba-11dfc6693daf.html

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/11/why-black-voters-in-milwaukee-werent-enthused-by-clinton.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html

    Soak in those articles my fellow AMT'ers then get back to me.....

    Hillary also LOST white women in 2016 nationally....

    So can we stop with the Russian memes and  bullshit forcefed narrative that sexism and white racism lost the election..... the black vote dropped fucking 19% in Wisconsin.... i'm sure someone will find a way to still blame it on Putin, or evil white people lol


    Now that you mention Putin, he did want trump to win. Fueling a “crooked Hillary” narrative certainly didn’t inspire high turnout. 


    Lol, pretty weak rebuttal....

    Black voter turnout dropped 19% in Wisconsin. Putin didn't win the election, the Democrats LOST the election

    The sooner everybody starts dealing with reality, the sooner we can try and win 2020.
    Black voter turnout did not drop 19% in Wisconsin. It dropped 19% in the one zip code your posted links referenced, one of which was a paraphrase of the NYT article you posted in the same post. Stop misrepresenting facts to fit your bias. Also, love how you gloss over the references to voter suppression via new voter ID laws that were implemented by a repub governor. Just stop. LOL.
    Incorrect... the article clearly states it was 19% statewide. A huge portion of the states black population lives in the Mikwaukee area so a large number of that 19% likely is from Milwaukee

    Sorry I have no sympathy for adults that dont have an ID, in the 21st century that's not voter suppression, that's just being lazy. The people interviewed that didnt vote didnt say peep about not being able to vote, they said they had no interest in voting. 

    Do we really need to argue whether blacks were more energized by Obama than Hillary? Lol The black guy wasnt on the ticket, and Democrats, especially the Clintons, only pander to blacks for their vote. PJ_Soul touched on it, and so did the gentelmen from the articles. And for the most part they are right.

    But feel free to continue with the Putin Derangement Syndrome, it's a good look for some people lol
    Show me where the NYT article “clearly states” it was 19% “statewide.” I couldn’t open the first article. Further, Team Trump Treason carried non-college educated white women by 2% and lost college educated by 6%. You also continue to ignore the effect of voter ID laws in that it wasn’t just a photo ID was required but that they also changed what or how residency was defined and what was required to get the ID and be on the rolls. Keep blaming a singular reason for the loss, ignoring all other factors. It’s a good look for your biases and holier than thou approach to election digestion. LOL.
     
    It's in the first article, which also discusses the voter suppression issue... that article states 19% statewide... 

    I don't care if a person has a degree or not, Trump won white women, period, full stop. 

    My bias is the truth
    Race played a significant role in the election, which I guess is your point, but racism didn’t play a role?

  • my2hands
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    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2017/11/01/441926/voter-trends-in-2016/

    Interesting read for those hoping to move past the russian red scare smokescreen... pretty exhaustive study by a liberal leaning group

    In the study it states if black turnout remained static between 2012-2016 in each state that Hillary would have won Wisconsin & Michigan, and therefore the election
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,578
    edited April 2019
    my2hands said:
    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2017/11/01/441926/voter-trends-in-2016/

    Interesting read for those hoping to move past the russian red scare smokescreen... pretty exhaustive study by a liberal leaning group

    In the study it states if black turnout remained static between 2012-2016 in each state that Hillary would have won Wisconsin & Michigan, and therefore the election
    I think everyone knows about voter turnout. I think the Russian references are about them compromising our elections, or attempting to, and trump’s relationship with all of that combined with republican indifference to the whole thing. 


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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    my2hands said:
    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2017/11/01/441926/voter-trends-in-2016/

    Interesting read for those hoping to move past the russian red scare smokescreen... pretty exhaustive study by a liberal leaning group

    In the study it states if black turnout remained static between 2012-2016 in each state that Hillary would have won Wisconsin & Michigan, and therefore the election

    Soooo... you're tellin' us there's a chance?
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    MLB Whiparound.  FS1 at 11pm.  I can't recommend it highly enough.
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    Frank Thomas still looks jacked.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,939
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Was it racist when 9% of democratic black voters stayed home in 2016 because a black person wasn't on the ticket, handing the election to Big Don?

    Why else would they stay home during the largest voter turnout ever? Oh, right, Russian hashtags 

    Everyone scared to touch that one? Lol
    Low voter turnout is weaksauce. More like racist Obama voters switched to trump in 2016: 

    “A new study shows that this response isn’t as powerful as it may seem. The study, from three political scientists from around the country, takes a statistical look at a large sample of Obama-Trump switchers. It finds that these voters tended to score highly on measures of racial hostility and xenophobia — and were not especially likely to be suffering economically.”

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm
    Here we go again..... evil racists voted for a black guy twice, then realized they were racist and voted Trump... yeah, i call bullshit, doesnt even pass a sniff test..... 

    Fact: black support for the democratic candidate fell 9% nationally between 2012-2016... even more so from 2008...

    Black turnout dropped 19% in Wisconsin!!!!!! Hillary lost that state by less than 1% right?

    https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/study-black-voter-turnout-in-wisconsin-declined-by-nearly-one/article_d3e72e41-96a0-51fb-83ba-11dfc6693daf.html

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/11/why-black-voters-in-milwaukee-werent-enthused-by-clinton.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html

    Soak in those articles my fellow AMT'ers then get back to me.....

    Hillary also LOST white women in 2016 nationally....

    So can we stop with the Russian memes and  bullshit forcefed narrative that sexism and white racism lost the election..... the black vote dropped fucking 19% in Wisconsin.... i'm sure someone will find a way to still blame it on Putin, or evil white people lol


    Now that you mention Putin, he did want trump to win. Fueling a “crooked Hillary” narrative certainly didn’t inspire high turnout. 


    Lol, pretty weak rebuttal....

    Black voter turnout dropped 19% in Wisconsin. Putin didn't win the election, the Democrats LOST the election

    The sooner everybody starts dealing with reality, the sooner we can try and win 2020.


    Hillary's reputation was destroyed in 2016.

    You are claiming Putin did not contribute to that?

    "Several days before the presidential election, Fox News anchor Brett Baier, considered by many as a fair and balanced journalist, had to apologize on air for two false reports from “sources” about an imminent indictment against Democrat Hillary Clinton and her family’s foundation, and that Clinton’s email server had been hacked by five foreign intelligence agencies."
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Hillary...
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    so NOT the President.
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  • my2hands
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    my2hands said:
    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2017/11/01/441926/voter-trends-in-2016/

    Interesting read for those hoping to move past the russian red scare smokescreen... pretty exhaustive study by a liberal leaning group

    In the study it states if black turnout remained static between 2012-2016 in each state that Hillary would have won Wisconsin & Michigan, and therefore the election

    Soooo... you're tellin' us there's a chance?
    Yes, we have a chance... but it's far from a sure bet
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    It is completely ignorant and foolhardy to discount the role and effectiveness of Putin on the ritz and the troll farms, particularly among the uneducated who overwhelmingly went Team Trump Treason (easily swayed, “I love the uneducated.”) Putin on the ritz didn’t spend $1MM per day and Team Trump Treason’s campaign manager didn’t share polling data, and then lie about, in order to not get results. 2020 will be worse with “rented” faceturd, Twitter and Instagram accounts.
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  • benjs
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    my2hands said:
    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2017/11/01/441926/voter-trends-in-2016/

    Interesting read for those hoping to move past the russian red scare smokescreen... pretty exhaustive study by a liberal leaning group

    In the study it states if black turnout remained static between 2012-2016 in each state that Hillary would have won Wisconsin & Michigan, and therefore the election
    Are you seriously trying to distil why a person votes for candidate A vs candidate B by referencing one fact with throngs of variables? Say, a four year difference? Different candidates? Different circumstances? Different cultural times? Diminished faith in the establishment and increased hope in outsiders' presence in Washington? Clinton's past referring to black people as superpredators (a highly publicized event)? Clinton's relationship with Bill whose crime bills passed in '94 led to further mass incarcerations?

    Your claims that the black vote decreased because of X are equally invalid, unsubstantiated, and unprovable as those on here claiming that the election was won because of Y. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Trump Plaza AND MTV


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited April 2019
    Trump cheats in Golf all the time. Pretty funny. But at the same time... not so funny...  Not so far from that dictator having all hole in ones etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INxGbTHybvc
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  • josevolution
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    https://www.nhregister.com/news/amp/Commander-in-Cheat-Book-recounts-golf-misdeeds-13732453.php
    He doesn’t have one honest bone in his ugly body ! 
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Tiki said:
    Trump Plaza AND MTV


    I went to that show
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    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    Soooooo much brilliant intelligence...


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    Bentleyspop said:
    Soooooo much brilliant intelligence...


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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Soooooo much brilliant intelligence...


    Geezuz Christ.

    Laughable. And madness. 
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