Donald Trump
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No idea. He has no vote.josevolution said:
He was the one spiking the football remember if he’s a Canadian why does he have such interest in the Baffoon winning..Meltdown99 said:BS is a Canadian. Why would you care what a Canadian with zero influence has to say. I know us Canadians are great, but not that influential in others countries politics...lolGive Peas A Chance…0 -
A major scandal in any other admin, but with trump this will be forgotten tomorrow unless the House picks it up. Kushner needs to gomrussel1 said:The security issue is appalling. But do we expect anything else? He will bend or break any rule for himself or family. It's repulsive.0 -
No idea. He has no vote.josevolution said:
He was the one spiking the football remember if he’s a Canadian why does he have such interest in the Baffoon winning..Meltdown99 said:BS is a Canadian. Why would you care what a Canadian with zero influence has to say. I know us Canadians are great, but not that influential in others countries politics...lolGive Peas A Chance…0 -
I see some are willing to accept revisionist history 'round these parts or do whatever it takes to make "both sides" true. Carry on. Anyone who doesn't agree is just some crazy liberal who can't get over it. Ok, whatever you say. Let's just let it all slide. The justice system is a joke and much like political outcomes, varies dependent on your socio-economic class, race, gender and age (to some extent). Does anybody really question whether a rich white dude and Joe-blow citizen get the same treatment in the legal system? What's ironic, is that we get a case like Jussie Smollet out there, which is shady as hell, and now it's a both side situation? I think there should be a flow chart because Smollet checks boxes on both sides. Charges for white collar crime is non-existent until you get someone like Mueller spending almost 2 years bringing down a bunch of privileged assholes. Newsflash, Don is a rich privileged asshole who happens to be the most powerful person in our country right now. Do you really need to read a 400 page report to figure out that he has cheated, lied and swindled his entire life, including as president. Why does anyone want someone like this as president? That is the question to be asking, not whether Obama was discriminated against because of his race. Why the fuck is Trump getting a pass for any reason? It's unbelievable. A fucking broken clock is correct twice a day as well, doesn't mean I'm going to rely on it to determine my day.
And then there's this, I work at a college in MN and someone literally came to class today wearing this.
What the fuck?! Why? Where does one even find shit like this?It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Trying to provoke a response so they can ba a victim and make it to Fox0
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lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president.mace1229 said:
No, I just don't believe all the criticism of Obama is about race. And I don't believe it would have been any different were he white.Halifax2TheMax said:
What you posited, that "its been going on for generations,' legislatively, is not true. Prior to Obama, dems and repubs regularly worked across the aisle. See Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush. The bi-partisanship ended with Obama, despite his adaption of previously repub positions. I get it, "you're okay with it."mace1229 said:
And many of the Dems wouldn't attend Trump's inauguration. Repubs tried to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. It really isn't anything new, and I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Obama was disliked/hated because of his color over his politics.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes but not on the gun bans, that’s a lost cause. Jesus Mace, the repubs wouldn’t even attend the WH Christmas party hosted by the Obama’s.mace1229 said:
So you really believe if Obama had ran the same campaign, had the same views, did everything the same but was white, he would have had more support from republicans and would have faced less opposition and would have passed all sorts of gun bans and so on?Halifax2TheMax said:
Because it hadn’t been going on “for generations.”mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
Today you can't criticize Obama without someone calling you racist. Its ridiculous.
And There were plenty of issues that they could not agree with on Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush Reprise. I would agree it didn't seem as extreme back then, but every 4 years it seems like it got worse than the previous 4.
Thats just my opinion, I can't prove the motivation wasn't racially motivated just like you can't prove it was I guess.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Both things can be true without it being cause and effect. The Republicans did not want to give him a political victory, but that's generally true today. Many of the criticisms of him, Michelle, etc., were rooted in or intended to exploit racism in this country.0
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And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?josevolution said:
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
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A lot of that is true. But I Just get tired of hearing that Hilary lost because republicans couldn't stand a women president, that Obama couldn't get things done because he was black. So I call it out when I see it.tbergs said:I see some are willing to accept revisionist history 'round these parts or do whatever it takes to make "both sides" true. Carry on. Anyone who doesn't agree is just some crazy liberal who can't get over it. Ok, whatever you say. Let's just let it all slide. The justice system is a joke and much like political outcomes, varies dependent on your socio-economic class, race, gender and age (to some extent). Does anybody really question whether a rich white dude and Joe-blow citizen get the same treatment in the legal system? What's ironic, is that we get a case like Jussie Smollet out there, which is shady as hell, and now it's a both side situation? I think there should be a flow chart because Smollet checks boxes on both sides. Charges for white collar crime is non-existent until you get someone like Mueller spending almost 2 years bringing down a bunch of privileged assholes. Newsflash, Don is a rich privileged asshole who happens to be the most powerful person in our country right now. Do you really need to read a 400 page report to figure out that he has cheated, lied and swindled his entire life, including as president. Why does anyone want someone like this as president? That is the question to be asking, not whether Obama was discriminated against because of his race. Why the fuck is Trump getting a pass for any reason? It's unbelievable. A fucking broken clock is correct twice a day as well, doesn't mean I'm going to rely on it to determine my day.
And then there's this, I work at a college in MN and someone literally came to class today wearing this.
What the fuck?! Why? Where does one even find shit like this?
Shirts like that should be banned on college campuses. I'm a little surprised they aren't. Free speech only goes so far.0 -
Do you think if Obama were white and his name was Stephen Hobart Smith that there would have been the call to release his birth certificate and be accused of being born in Kenya or any other country for that matter? Prison reform? Both sides are not the same.mace1229 said:
And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?josevolution said:
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Before blaming “sides”, we should probably go back to when the “birther” movement took hold?Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think if Obama were white and his name was Stephen Hobart Smith that there would have been the call to release his birth certificate and be accused of being born in Kenya or any other country for that matter? Prison reform? Both sides are not the same.mace1229 said:
And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?josevolution said:
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304
“Later, in the spring 2008, as Clinton’s chances of winning the Democratic primary grew thin, some of her hardcore supporters circulated rumors that Obama may not be a U.S. citizen, picking up on some of Martin’s innuendo and extending it further.”
A bunch of racist Hillary supporters?0 -
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Before blaming “sides”, we should probably go back to when the “birther” movement took hold?Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think if Obama were white and his name was Stephen Hobart Smith that there would have been the call to release his birth certificate and be accused of being born in Kenya or any other country for that matter? Prison reform? Both sides are not the same.mace1229 said:
And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?josevolution said:
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304
“Later, in the spring 2008, as Clinton’s chances of winning the Democratic primary grew thin, some of her hardcore supporters circulated rumors that Obama may not be a U.S. citizen, picking up on some of Martin’s innuendo and extending it further.”
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No, of course not. But there would have been something else to try and delegitimize him. Just like the dozens of attempts on Trump. How is one racist and not the other?Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think if Obama were white and his name was Stephen Hobart Smith that there would have been the call to release his birth certificate and be accused of being born in Kenya or any other country for that matter? Prison reform? Both sides are not the same.mace1229 said:
And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?josevolution said:
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?0 -
If Obama was white, he wouldn't have been the nominee, and he wouldn't have won
How about that for a hypothesis?0 -
Do you think there weren’t racist Hillary supporters?PJPOWER said:
Before blaming “sides”, we should probably go back to when the “birther” movement took hold?Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think if Obama were white and his name was Stephen Hobart Smith that there would have been the call to release his birth certificate and be accused of being born in Kenya or any other country for that matter? Prison reform? Both sides are not the same.mace1229 said:
And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?josevolution said:
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304
“Later, in the spring 2008, as Clinton’s chances of winning the Democratic primary grew thin, some of her hardcore supporters circulated rumors that Obama may not be a U.S. citizen, picking up on some of Martin’s innuendo and extending it further.”
A bunch of racist Hillary supporters?
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I believe that to be possible. I mean, didn't he have a record number of black votes and block voters turned out in record numbers when he ran? That could have been the difference. It seems reasonable to say he may not have won if he were not black.mrussel1 said:
That is just trolling. I know it's the internet but that's literally just making shit up.my2hands said:If Obama was white, he wouldn't have been the nominee, and he wouldn't have won
How about that for a hypothesis?Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
He also wouldn't have existed at all if he wasn't black. I mean, there comes a time when hypothesis is completely worthless. This is one of those times.mace1229 said:
I believe that to be true. I mean, didn't he have a record number of black votes and block voters turned out in record numbers when he ran? That could have been the difference. It seems reasonable to say he may not have won if he were not black.mrussel1 said:
That is just trolling. I know it's the internet but that's literally just making shit up.my2hands said:If Obama was white, he wouldn't have been the nominee, and he wouldn't have won
How about that for a hypothesis?
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Such as? And how has Team trump Treason been delegitimized? Has anyone accused him of being born in a different country? That he's a liar? True. Swindles people? True. Tells a lie or mistruth, on average, 8 times per day? True. Is ignorant? True. Doesn't listen to his advisors, intelligence community? True. What were the things that were said about Obama and which or how many of them had merit or any basis in reality? Would the same be said of someone who is white?mace1229 said:
No, of course not. But there would have been something else to try and delegitimize him. Just like the dozens of attempts on Trump. How is one racist and not the other?Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think if Obama were white and his name was Stephen Hobart Smith that there would have been the call to release his birth certificate and be accused of being born in Kenya or any other country for that matter? Prison reform? Both sides are not the same.mace1229 said:
And democrats came up with 100 reasons why Trump wasn't qualified as well. I don't think they protested against Trump because he was white, do you? But if you protest against Obama it can only be because he was black?josevolution said:
lol Obama was scrutinized about his birthplace for the whole time he was president..mace1229 said:
Its politics. Dems don't want to give Trump a win on anything Trump does, is that because he's white?Halifax2TheMax said:
With a republican congress that absolutely refused to give him a win. On anything. Because he’s black.my2hands said:Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone explain what Team Trump Treason has given Dems? Besides a ban on bump stocks?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1111768933651152897
To be fair... banning bump stocks is more than Obama did
We can go back to Bush and so on. Why is it suddenly about race when Obama takes office, even though its has been going on for generations?
"Very stable genius."
"Smarter than all my generals."
"Only I can fix healthcare."
"Biggest inaugral ever."
"Shit hole countries."
"Muslim ban."
"Fine people on both sides."
Are you denying racism exists and that it wasn't directed at Obama?
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