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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 6,110
    Poncier said:

    Michael Irvin undergoing testing for possible throat cancer.

    Hope for the best for him, like him  lot as an analyst.

    He came thru cancer free, glad to hear 

    he was a super nice guy when I met him on the set of inside the nfl.... I won a golf outing prize, played catch with him

    got Simms, Boomer, him, Brandon Marshall to sign a ball for me

    he was shot out of a cannon, lotta fun to be around 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 9,776
    yeah I heard yesterday he was cancer free, very good news.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 31,243
    igotid88 said:
    AAF suspends the season
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 25,190
    igotid88 said:
    AAF suspends the season

    goes to show, the appetite for football is NOT insatiable. XFL should be doomed, since it is run by trumpers. then again, the XFL may MAGA.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,548
    Wobbie said:
    igotid88 said:
    AAF suspends the season

    goes to show, the appetite for football is NOT insatiable. XFL should be doomed, since it is run by trumpers. then again, the XFL may MAGA.
    You were probably in your 50's when the USFL was going on, right Wob? I'm reading Jeff Pearlman's book about it right. Hell of a read. I think that league actually had a chance if it wasn't for you know who and if they didn't have a tremendous amount of bad luck with other things. 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 14,892
    Wobbie said:
    igotid88 said:
    AAF suspends the season

    goes to show, the appetite for football is NOT insatiable. XFL should be doomed, since it is run by trumpers. then again, the XFL may MAGA.
    You were probably in your 50's when the USFL was going on, right Wob? I'm reading Jeff Pearlman's book about it right. Hell of a read. I think that league actually had a chance if it wasn't for you know who and if they didn't have a tremendous amount of bad luck with other things. 
    Really good 30 for 30 on that as well, if you haven't seen it.  Called "Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL?"
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,692
    Wobbie said:
    igotid88 said:
    AAF suspends the season

    goes to show, the appetite for football is NOT insatiable. XFL should be doomed, since it is run by trumpers. then again, the XFL may MAGA.
    You were probably in your 50's when the USFL was going on, right Wob? I'm reading Jeff Pearlman's book about it right. Hell of a read. I think that league actually had a chance if it wasn't for you know who and if they didn't have a tremendous amount of bad luck with other things. 
    I just finished that book. I thought it was just ok not great.  it kind of jumped around from the business aspects to funny on-field/locker room stories.  With the talent the league had it did have a chance to succeed. Just some boneheaded owners and then baffoon ruined it on some pipe dream of getting into the NFL.  Its very interesting to hear them talk about how Trump would just blurt out ideas with no clue on how to get his idea done...and he still does the same shit today.  
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,022
    Americans don't like to watch second-tier pro sports.  I don't understand why people keep investing in 2nd rate pro football leagues.  It's why soccer will never reach NFL / NBA / MLB / NHL level status ... the US MLS clubs have inferior players, thus no one (outside of soccer nuts) can tell you who won the last title in MLS because no one cares.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,548
    Jason P said:
    Americans don't like to watch second-tier pro sports.  I don't understand why people keep investing in 2nd rate pro football leagues.  It's why soccer will never reach NFL / NBA / MLB / NHL level status ... the US MLS clubs have inferior players, thus no one (outside of soccer nuts) can tell you who won the last title in MLS because no one cares.
    What percentage of people, outside of hockey fans, can tell you who won the Stanley Cup last year?


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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 11,455
    Jason P said:
    Americans don't like to watch second-tier pro sports.  I don't understand why people keep investing in 2nd rate pro football leagues.  It's why soccer will never reach NFL / NBA / MLB / NHL level status ... the US MLS clubs have inferior players, thus no one (outside of soccer nuts) can tell you who won the last title in MLS because no one cares.
    What percentage of people, outside of hockey fans, can tell you who won the Stanley Cup last year?


    I know it's the Capitals just because of Ovechkin got a lot of coverage after it last year. But any other year, I'd have no idea. That said, I would still lump the NHL in with the big three....but as a distant, distant fourth. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,151
    Hockey is far more exciting than baseball and basketball, basketball all you have to to do is watch the last to minutes to see who is going to win...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,022
    Jason P said:
    Americans don't like to watch second-tier pro sports.  I don't understand why people keep investing in 2nd rate pro football leagues.  It's why soccer will never reach NFL / NBA / MLB / NHL level status ... the US MLS clubs have inferior players, thus no one (outside of soccer nuts) can tell you who won the last title in MLS because no one cares.
    What percentage of people, outside of hockey fans, can tell you who won the Stanley Cup last year?


    I would think a majority of US sports fans could give the name of five NHL teams.  Whereas a small minority could name five MLS teams. 
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,022
    Off the top of my head ...  DC United. Seattle Sounders.  LA Galaxy.  And that’s it.  How long has MLS existed?  
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,635
    Jason P said:
    Off the top of my head ...  DC United. Seattle Sounders.  LA Galaxy.  And that’s it.  How long has MLS existed?  
    They started playing in 1996, so relatively recently. And thanks for the mention of the most important MLS team, Go Sounders! :wink:
    I'm a soccer, hockey (we get a team in 2022!) and football. Don't care about baseball. And didn't even realize that NBA still existed (we don't have NBA coverage on Seattle news because "fuck the NBA".).  So personally, I'll stick to the 2nd tier sports. Much more excitement, and much less bullshit attitudes from the celebrity prima donna athletes. We just got a Major League Rugby team in Seattle last year and those guys are a blast to watch (and we won the cup). They don't get paid shit, they work their asses off, but they love what they do and they appreciate the fans. And people can actually afford to attend the events. I've got season tickets to the Sounders and am 2nd row in Century Link Field right behind the players' bench. Could never do that with football, basketball or baseball. But we still sell >40,000 tickets each game.
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,226
    jeffbr said:
    Jason P said:
    Off the top of my head ...  DC United. Seattle Sounders.  LA Galaxy.  And that’s it.  How long has MLS existed?  
    They started playing in 1996, so relatively recently. And thanks for the mention of the most important MLS team, Go Sounders! :wink:
    I'm a soccer, hockey (we get a team in 2022!) and football. Don't care about baseball. And didn't even realize that NBA still existed (we don't have NBA coverage on Seattle news because "fuck the NBA".).  So personally, I'll stick to the 2nd tier sports. Much more excitement, and much less bullshit attitudes from the celebrity prima donna athletes. We just got a Major League Rugby team in Seattle last year and those guys are a blast to watch (and we won the cup). They don't get paid shit, they work their asses off, but they love what they do and they appreciate the fans. And people can actually afford to attend the events. I've got season tickets to the Sounders and am 2nd row in Century Link Field right behind the players' bench. Could never do that with football, basketball or baseball. But we still sell >40,000 tickets each game.
    That's awesome.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 14,892
    edited April 5
    Build a bonfire, build a bonfire
    Put the Timbers on the top
    Throw the Whitecaps in the middle
    And we'll burn the fuckin' lot!

    For some reason I know the Seattle Sounders fight song (Timbers = Portland, Whitecaps = Vancouver), but I know they didn't win the Cup last year.  Atlanta did, in their 2nd year of existence.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 17,011
    Jason P said:
    Off the top of my head ...  DC United. Seattle Sounders.  LA Galaxy.  And that’s it.  How long has MLS existed?  
    LA Galaxy, LA FC, Chivas USA, Seattle Sounders, NE Revolution.
    That is it for me. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,548
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    Americans don't like to watch second-tier pro sports.  I don't understand why people keep investing in 2nd rate pro football leagues.  It's why soccer will never reach NFL / NBA / MLB / NHL level status ... the US MLS clubs have inferior players, thus no one (outside of soccer nuts) can tell you who won the last title in MLS because no one cares.
    What percentage of people, outside of hockey fans, can tell you who won the Stanley Cup last year?


    I would think a majority of US sports fans could give the name of five NHL teams.  Whereas a small minority could name five MLS teams. 
    What’s the percentage of people who know who is the reigning Stanley Cup champion though? Before ledbetterman said the Caps, I actually thought it was that Las Vegas team at first. 
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,635
    Build a bonfire, build a bonfire
    Put the Timbers on the top
    Throw the Whitecaps in the middle
    And we'll burn the fuckin' lot!

    For some reason I know the Seattle Sounders fight song (Timbers = Portland, Whitecaps = Vancouver), but I know they didn't win the Cup last year.  Atlanta did, in their 2nd year of existence.
    <sung to the tune of Oh, My Darling Clementine>
    Hell, yeah! Nice one! :lol:
    And yes, Atlanta came into the league on fire and won it all their 2nd year. They may be fizzling this year, though. Although they're now setting the attendance records and have great fan support. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Indifference71Indifference71 ChicagoPosts: 13,234
    Wobbie said:
    igotid88 said:
    AAF suspends the season

    goes to show, the appetite for football is NOT insatiable. XFL should be doomed, since it is run by trumpers. then again, the XFL may MAGA.
    You were probably in your 50's when the USFL was going on, right Wob? I'm reading Jeff Pearlman's book about it right. Hell of a read. I think that league actually had a chance if it wasn't for you know who and if they didn't have a tremendous amount of bad luck with other things. 
    Good to hear.....that book is next on my list.  Pearlman is awesome....I've enjoyed all of his books and especially the books on the 86 Mets and the 90s Cowboys. Check those out if you haven't already...
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 ChicagoPosts: 13,234
    Reading this article made me very happy.  I wish they didn't fire McCarthy!

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 14,892
    Jason P said:
    Off the top of my head ...  DC United. Seattle Sounders.  LA Galaxy.  And that’s it.  How long has MLS existed?  
    LA Galaxy, LA FC, Chivas USA, Seattle Sounders, NE Revolution.
    That is it for me. 
    Toronto FC, Orlando City, New York City FC, Red Bull NY, Minnesota Utd, Columbus Crew, Chicago Fire, Sporting KC, Houston Dynamo, Philadelphia Union, Montreal Impact, FC Dallas, Real Salt Lake, Colorado Rapids, San Jose Earthquake & already named Atlanta Utd, Portland Timbers & Vancouver Whitecaps.  I think that's it.
    Chivas USA folded a couple years ago.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 17,011
    Jason P said:
    Off the top of my head ...  DC United. Seattle Sounders.  LA Galaxy.  And that’s it.  How long has MLS existed?  
    LA Galaxy, LA FC, Chivas USA, Seattle Sounders, NE Revolution.
    That is it for me. 
    Toronto FC, Orlando City, New York City FC, Red Bull NY, Minnesota Utd, Columbus Crew, Chicago Fire, Sporting KC, Houston Dynamo, Philadelphia Union, Montreal Impact, FC Dallas, Real Salt Lake, Colorado Rapids, San Jose Earthquake & already named Atlanta Utd, Portland Timbers & Vancouver Whitecaps.  I think that's it.
    Chivas USA folded a couple years ago.
    Ha, see how closely I follow?  One of the 5 teams I could name are no more. 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 14,892
    I missed one, FC Cincinnati. But they just entered the league this season, I had no idea.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 14,892
    Jason P said:
    Off the top of my head ...  DC United. Seattle Sounders.  LA Galaxy.  And that’s it.  How long has MLS existed?  
    LA Galaxy, LA FC, Chivas USA, Seattle Sounders, NE Revolution.
    That is it for me. 
    Toronto FC, Orlando City, New York City FC, Red Bull NY, Minnesota Utd, Columbus Crew, Chicago Fire, Sporting KC, Houston Dynamo, Philadelphia Union, Montreal Impact, FC Dallas, Real Salt Lake, Colorado Rapids, San Jose Earthquake & already named Atlanta Utd, Portland Timbers & Vancouver Whitecaps.  I think that's it.
    Chivas USA folded a couple years ago.
    Ha, see how closely I follow?  One of the 5 teams I could name are no more. 
    I was surprised I had them all but the new team.  Figured I'd miss at least one or two more.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,022
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    Americans don't like to watch second-tier pro sports.  I don't understand why people keep investing in 2nd rate pro football leagues.  It's why soccer will never reach NFL / NBA / MLB / NHL level status ... the US MLS clubs have inferior players, thus no one (outside of soccer nuts) can tell you who won the last title in MLS because no one cares.
    What percentage of people, outside of hockey fans, can tell you who won the Stanley Cup last year?


    I would think a majority of US sports fans could give the name of five NHL teams.  Whereas a small minority could name five MLS teams. 
    What’s the percentage of people who know who is the reigning Stanley Cup champion though? Before ledbetterman said the Caps, I actually thought it was that Las Vegas team at first. 
    That's a tough question in today's info overload environment ... considering it took me about sixty seconds to remember the red sox won the last world series, I'm guessing very few can.  There is a line of demarcation that coincides with snowfall that will either send that percentage up or down.
  • Hockey is far more exciting than baseball and basketball, basketball all you have to to do is watch the last to minutes to see who is going to win...

    No.

    One team goes down 3-0 early in the game. Team down begins to coast a bit. Team up kills time.  

    Clutch. Grab. Hold. Whistle. Face off. Clutch. Grab. Hold. Whistle. Face off. Weak shot. Goaltender holds puck. TV timeout. Players meet at bench. Face off.

    Repeat.

    In basketball, teams are forced to keep playing. If they aren't matching possessions, then they are getting drilled. The last ten minutes will reveal the winner, but the turnover in the second quarter had as much to do with the loss as the shot missed at the buzzer.

    March Madness is as exciting as it gets. No seven game series that benefits the better team: it's survival of the fittest.

    Baseball is not meant to be 'sit on the edge of your seats' (although come playoffs... every pitch is nerve wracking). Having said that, I'll take it over a hockey game any day of the week.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,151
    Hockey is far more exciting than baseball and basketball, basketball all you have to to do is watch the last to minutes to see who is going to win...

    No.

    One team goes down 3-0 early in the game. Team down begins to coast a bit. Team up kills time.  

    Clutch. Grab. Hold. Whistle. Face off. Clutch. Grab. Hold. Whistle. Face off. Weak shot. Goaltender holds puck. TV timeout. Players meet at bench. Face off.

    Repeat.

    In basketball, teams are forced to keep playing. If they aren't matching possessions, then they are getting drilled. The last ten minutes will reveal the winner, but the turnover in the second quarter had as much to do with the loss as the shot missed at the buzzer.

    March Madness is as exciting as it gets. No seven game series that benefits the better team: it's survival of the fittest.

    Baseball is not meant to be 'sit on the edge of your seats' (although come playoffs... every pitch is nerve wracking). Having said that, I'll take it over a hockey game any day of the week.

  • And Philip Rivers played with a torn acl. There's wussies in every sport. What's your point?

    To the soccer... you'd never find me defending its integrity. I'm not a fan (although do watch WC with a reasonable degree of interest).
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