The Pizza Thread

F Me In The Brain said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I dunno, I'm not totally sold on the intermittent fasting routine.  Seems to me just another short-period weight loss fad, though I'm not a doctor and don't know the science behind it.  Is it possible for the human body to healthfully sustain that eating pattern an entire lifespan?  My gut instinct tells me something isn't right.  Get_Right's pattern seems rather logical. Eat often, but consume sensibly.

Consider the extra work your digestive system must do processing multiple meals daily.

I am not a fad diet guy at all. I like science and the science behind the intermittent fasting research is pretty solid in my mind.

Me too.

Nothing short term about it, either, depending on your belief and adoption.  I have been doing it for nearly a year.  Do I cheat on some days?  Yes.  In general though, this is what I have been doing and I like it. 

I have stated doing this over the past two months and am a fan. Although near the end some days I get a little hangry. 

I just have a glass of milk and a vitamin for breakfast. I used to also have a cup of coffee after that, but when I quit smoking in October (replaced with vaping - so much better in every way), I realized I wasn't actually having a cigarette with my morning coffee all those years. I was having coffee with my morning cigarette. As soon as that morning smoke was gone I had absolutely no desire for that cup of coffee - I'd rather sleep for 5 more minutes! So a glass of milk and a multivitamin pill: breakfast of champions, right?? Then I usually don't have anything until 8 hours later right after work, like a snack or maybe a pizza slice during my transit home. And then a big dinner around 8 or 8:30pm. It works for me. I just like to plow through work and not really take breaks so I can get out of there early. Though once in a while I change the routine because I go out for lunch with work friends, but only once or twice a month.

rgambs said:

My entire life I heard that you have to eat small meals frequently to "keep your metabolism stimulated"...the scientific research behind that??  There is none.

I subscribed to this notion at one point as well.

Bottom line: vegetables, meats, fruits.

And moderation.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

My entire life I heard that you have to eat small meals frequently to "keep your metabolism stimulated"...the scientific research behind that??  There is none.

I subscribed to this notion at one point as well.

Bottom line: vegetables, meats, fruits.

And moderation.

Calories in, calories out. That is about it. Plus getting enough of the right nutrients and vitamins to be and look healthy. Simple. But then it does actually get more complicated once you start looking into ketosis and shit. Carbs vs no carbs, etc. Then more is involved as far as how your body is burning fat/sugars/energy. But generally yeah, weight control is just about how many calories you take in vs how many burn. And FWIW, exercise is seriously only maybe 20% of the equation. Diet is really what people who want to lose weight have to focus on. I mean, someone can go to the gym 2 hours a day, 7 days a week and still not lose any weight if they are still eating 5000 calories a day. I think some very overweight compulsive eaters think that if they just exercise a lot they should lose weight, but that really isn't the case, since it takes SO much exercise to burn relatively few calories, that even excessive exercise isn't going to make a dent in a super high calorie diet. But if someone reduces their daily calorie intake to 1500 calories a day but don't do any exercise at all (or if they do a zero carb diet), the weight will still melt off. Adding exercise would make it melt off just a bit faster (and is good for you obviously, aside from weight loss).

I need to look into the science behind the intermittent fasting approach.  I’ve apparently been a believer in obsolete “science” in that it is best to eat 3-5 smaller meals a day rather than over-indulging in a huge lunch or dinner.  I also question if there is truly a one size fits all approach to this.  If someone is in the gym daily, burning a ton of calories, I’m not sure it is the healthiest approach to eat twice a day with 8 hours in between. Again though, I need to research this more and look at the science.

HesCalledDyer said:

I read these two articles this afternoon during some downtime.  Both pretty much drive the same point Alli was making above.  Bottom line, no matter how you do it, do it and stick with it.  Lower caloric intake and balanced diet are important, when and how often you eat are not.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3680567/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181126115842.htm

Interesting.  Diet is definitely paramount to exercise for people watching their weight.  I wonder when low caloric intake becomes too low though.  I train pretty hard and burn a ton of calories and if I’m not eating fairly regularly (healthy foods) I feel very hungry and become too thin. Every body is different, of course. I’m always interested and intrigued by ways to eat healthier overall. 

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