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In the context of her comments, she’s the boss of having proposed a plan to combat climate change and until someone else offers an alternative, rather than just pick hers apart, she’s the boss of the climate change issue because she’s driving the discussion about it. To her point, what has senator Feinstein offered up in her 30-40 years of “working on the issue?” Complain all you want about the details, that happens in any policy debate but you can’t deny that AOC is driving this discussion and it’s one that a majority of voters care about and want to see discussed.Ledbetterman10 said:
I completely agree. Especially about Cortez. I know a few people around here have said (many times) that "old, white Republicans" are "afraid" of her. I think they fucking LOVE her because she has potential to hurt the democratic party in the long run. Here she is ripping long-tenured and respected Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aoc-rips-dianne-feinstein-after-her-confrontation-with-kids-over-green-new-dealwhat dreams said:The thought of having to listen to Sanders bark at me for another year of my life really makes me want to tune out completely -- AND I'M ON HIS SIDE. If he can't convince me to listen to him, how do we expect a corn farmer in Kansas to do so?
Same thing with Cortez. I'm so done with her petty snipes at critics and her cutesy self-serving videos that I think she's nothing more than a narcissistic, entitled snot -- AND I'M ON HER SIDE. If she can't convince me to listen to her, how do we expect a nice church lady in Wyoming to do so?
I guess when I say we need someone who can win, I mean we need someone very good at selling progressive ideas to people who haven't already bought them. You can't blame it all on the media. I consider myself a highly critical consumer of information, and even I can't stomach Cortez, Sanders, or Warren because of they way they talk at people. I'd vote for either old crotch if they win the nomination, but I wouldn't expect to win over my church lady farmer friends, that's for sure.
Be sure to scroll down to see AOC refer to herself as "the boss." Boss of what? She's not Springsteen. Boss of the Democratic party? Maybe in her eyes. I'm sure that'll sit well with her Democratic colleagues.
I like the “non-binding” mention with Mitchy McConnell and his scheduled vote and the last paragraph about climate change and cold weather.
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And people dont think Trump can win again, and still wonder how he woncincybearcat said:
Can you please share how ICE is anything like the SS?PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Harris pissed me off a bit when she was questioning the ICE nominee guy and asked him if he was aware of the "perception" that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK. What a fucking cop-out. Sounds like SHE thinks that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK, and so she should say that. Don't hide behind "people are saying." That's right out Trump's playbook.PJ_Soul said:Kamala Harris is pleasant to listen to. So is Elizabeth Warren. No barking at all from those two. Why is everyone paying so much attention to Bernie when these two women are so much more appealing?
Warren's alright I guess. As for Harris, other than this ICE thing, her Jussie Smollet "lynching" quote, and her claim to have been listening to Tupac and Snoop in college, despite their debut albums coming out after she graduated, she's not bad. Hey, she's for legalizing weed. That carries weight with me. But I don't think either will win the nomination.Yeah, I actually see far more similarities between ICE and the SS myself. But I have no problems with how she phrased that question.Warren is a really inspiring speaker, and truly enthusiastic. I think if she got a real shot (i.e. Bernie-like attention) she could actually manage to really energize people.Frankly, I feel like Americans just don't feel confident enough that a woman can win this one, in the sense that they don't want to take the chance of a female nominee, given the stakes.
When people on my side of the political spectrum compare ICE workers to the SS and continue to demonize all law enforcement, it is frankly total bullshit, ridiculous, ignorant, and will turn people off and push them away0 -
I just love when people drag up the Nazi, the SS ... etc. What a fucking insult to every man or woman who suffered from the evils of the Nazi and SS, and to all peoples who defeated the Nazi's...Give Peas A Chance…0
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And people dont think Trump can win again, and still wonder how he woncincybearcat said:
Can you please share how ICE is anything like the SS?PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Harris pissed me off a bit when she was questioning the ICE nominee guy and asked him if he was aware of the "perception" that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK. What a fucking cop-out. Sounds like SHE thinks that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK, and so she should say that. Don't hide behind "people are saying." That's right out Trump's playbook.PJ_Soul said:Kamala Harris is pleasant to listen to. So is Elizabeth Warren. No barking at all from those two. Why is everyone paying so much attention to Bernie when these two women are so much more appealing?
Warren's alright I guess. As for Harris, other than this ICE thing, her Jussie Smollet "lynching" quote, and her claim to have been listening to Tupac and Snoop in college, despite their debut albums coming out after she graduated, she's not bad. Hey, she's for legalizing weed. That carries weight with me. But I don't think either will win the nomination.Yeah, I actually see far more similarities between ICE and the SS myself. But I have no problems with how she phrased that question.Warren is a really inspiring speaker, and truly enthusiastic. I think if she got a real shot (i.e. Bernie-like attention) she could actually manage to really energize people.Frankly, I feel like Americans just don't feel confident enough that a woman can win this one, in the sense that they don't want to take the chance of a female nominee, given the stakes.
When people on my side of the political spectrum compare ICE workers to the SS and continue to demonize all law enforcement, it is frankly total bullshit, ridiculous, ignorant, and will turn people off and push them away0 -
And that's where the similarities end.mrussel1 said:
The both wore uniforms. Bam.cincybearcat said:
Can you please share how ICE is anything like the SS?PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Harris pissed me off a bit when she was questioning the ICE nominee guy and asked him if he was aware of the "perception" that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK. What a fucking cop-out. Sounds like SHE thinks that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK, and so she should say that. Don't hide behind "people are saying." That's right out Trump's playbook.PJ_Soul said:Kamala Harris is pleasant to listen to. So is Elizabeth Warren. No barking at all from those two. Why is everyone paying so much attention to Bernie when these two women are so much more appealing?
Warren's alright I guess. As for Harris, other than this ICE thing, her Jussie Smollet "lynching" quote, and her claim to have been listening to Tupac and Snoop in college, despite their debut albums coming out after she graduated, she's not bad. Hey, she's for legalizing weed. That carries weight with me. But I don't think either will win the nomination.Yeah, I actually see far more similarities between ICE and the SS myself. But I have no problems with how she phrased that question.Warren is a really inspiring speaker, and truly enthusiastic. I think if she got a real shot (i.e. Bernie-like attention) she could actually manage to really energize people.Frankly, I feel like Americans just don't feel confident enough that a woman can win this one, in the sense that they don't want to take the chance of a female nominee, given the stakes.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
There was a white guy in charge. That's two. I can keep this up all day.mcgruff10 said:
And that's where the similarities end.mrussel1 said:
The both wore uniforms. Bam.cincybearcat said:
Can you please share how ICE is anything like the SS?PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Harris pissed me off a bit when she was questioning the ICE nominee guy and asked him if he was aware of the "perception" that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK. What a fucking cop-out. Sounds like SHE thinks that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK, and so she should say that. Don't hide behind "people are saying." That's right out Trump's playbook.PJ_Soul said:Kamala Harris is pleasant to listen to. So is Elizabeth Warren. No barking at all from those two. Why is everyone paying so much attention to Bernie when these two women are so much more appealing?
Warren's alright I guess. As for Harris, other than this ICE thing, her Jussie Smollet "lynching" quote, and her claim to have been listening to Tupac and Snoop in college, despite their debut albums coming out after she graduated, she's not bad. Hey, she's for legalizing weed. That carries weight with me. But I don't think either will win the nomination.Yeah, I actually see far more similarities between ICE and the SS myself. But I have no problems with how she phrased that question.Warren is a really inspiring speaker, and truly enthusiastic. I think if she got a real shot (i.e. Bernie-like attention) she could actually manage to really energize people.Frankly, I feel like Americans just don't feel confident enough that a woman can win this one, in the sense that they don't want to take the chance of a female nominee, given the stakes.0 -
She should check her boss privilege at the door.Halifax2TheMax said:
In the context of her comments, she’s the boss of having proposed a plan to combat climate change and until someone else offers an alternative, rather than just pick hers apart, she’s the boss of the climate change issue because she’s driving the discussion about it. To her point, what has senator Feinstein offered up in her 30-40 years of “working on the issue?” Complain all you want about the details, that happens in any policy debate but you can’t deny that AOC is driving this discussion and it’s one that a majority of voters care about and want to see discussed.Ledbetterman10 said:
I completely agree. Especially about Cortez. I know a few people around here have said (many times) that "old, white Republicans" are "afraid" of her. I think they fucking LOVE her because she has potential to hurt the democratic party in the long run. Here she is ripping long-tenured and respected Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aoc-rips-dianne-feinstein-after-her-confrontation-with-kids-over-green-new-dealwhat dreams said:The thought of having to listen to Sanders bark at me for another year of my life really makes me want to tune out completely -- AND I'M ON HIS SIDE. If he can't convince me to listen to him, how do we expect a corn farmer in Kansas to do so?
Same thing with Cortez. I'm so done with her petty snipes at critics and her cutesy self-serving videos that I think she's nothing more than a narcissistic, entitled snot -- AND I'M ON HER SIDE. If she can't convince me to listen to her, how do we expect a nice church lady in Wyoming to do so?
I guess when I say we need someone who can win, I mean we need someone very good at selling progressive ideas to people who haven't already bought them. You can't blame it all on the media. I consider myself a highly critical consumer of information, and even I can't stomach Cortez, Sanders, or Warren because of they way they talk at people. I'd vote for either old crotch if they win the nomination, but I wouldn't expect to win over my church lady farmer friends, that's for sure.
Be sure to scroll down to see AOC refer to herself as "the boss." Boss of what? She's not Springsteen. Boss of the Democratic party? Maybe in her eyes. I'm sure that'll sit well with her Democratic colleagues.
I like the “non-binding” mention with Mitchy McConnell and his scheduled vote and the last paragraph about climate change and cold weather.
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They both use weapons. There’s three.mrussel1 said:
There was a white guy in charge. That's two. I can keep this up all day.mcgruff10 said:
And that's where the similarities end.mrussel1 said:
The both wore uniforms. Bam.cincybearcat said:
Can you please share how ICE is anything like the SS?PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Harris pissed me off a bit when she was questioning the ICE nominee guy and asked him if he was aware of the "perception" that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK. What a fucking cop-out. Sounds like SHE thinks that there are similarities between ICE and the KKK, and so she should say that. Don't hide behind "people are saying." That's right out Trump's playbook.PJ_Soul said:Kamala Harris is pleasant to listen to. So is Elizabeth Warren. No barking at all from those two. Why is everyone paying so much attention to Bernie when these two women are so much more appealing?
Warren's alright I guess. As for Harris, other than this ICE thing, her Jussie Smollet "lynching" quote, and her claim to have been listening to Tupac and Snoop in college, despite their debut albums coming out after she graduated, she's not bad. Hey, she's for legalizing weed. That carries weight with me. But I don't think either will win the nomination.Yeah, I actually see far more similarities between ICE and the SS myself. But I have no problems with how she phrased that question.Warren is a really inspiring speaker, and truly enthusiastic. I think if she got a real shot (i.e. Bernie-like attention) she could actually manage to really energize people.Frankly, I feel like Americans just don't feel confident enough that a woman can win this one, in the sense that they don't want to take the chance of a female nominee, given the stakes.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
They both used their power to abuse kids?0
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I was thinking about 50-60's muscle cars. I had to look up your car. Nice. Looks like a real sweet ride. My brother in law rebuilt a '71 Nova, he is not overly mechanically inclined, just loves older muscle cars. I learned some things from his experience, if you do not have the means or the mechanical ability, do not take on these projects...it cost him a small fortune.mrussel1 said:
Well it's not classic in the sense you're thinking of, but it is for me. It was just easier to call a garage queen a classic. It's a 2001 E46 M3 with only 40k on it, which is quite low. It's the sweetest driving vehicle I've ever owned. I only drive it a handful of times per year. I had an E60 M5 with a V10, and while that was a beast, the M3 is a far superior driver's car. I'll never part with it.Meltdown99 said:
Most of us will 6 feet under and self-driving vehicles will still be just a novelty. I've been hearing about electric vehicles for 30 years and they are nowhere near mainstream...mrussel1 said:BTW, we better not fucking ban combustible engines. I'm a car guy. I'm all for green and efficient, but I want my classic in the garage and never want to let it go. And don't get me started on self driving vehicles. If I get driven everywhere, just fucking shoot me now.
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Why?mrussel1 said:
She should check her boss privilege at the door.Halifax2TheMax said:
In the context of her comments, she’s the boss of having proposed a plan to combat climate change and until someone else offers an alternative, rather than just pick hers apart, she’s the boss of the climate change issue because she’s driving the discussion about it. To her point, what has senator Feinstein offered up in her 30-40 years of “working on the issue?” Complain all you want about the details, that happens in any policy debate but you can’t deny that AOC is driving this discussion and it’s one that a majority of voters care about and want to see discussed.Ledbetterman10 said:
I completely agree. Especially about Cortez. I know a few people around here have said (many times) that "old, white Republicans" are "afraid" of her. I think they fucking LOVE her because she has potential to hurt the democratic party in the long run. Here she is ripping long-tenured and respected Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aoc-rips-dianne-feinstein-after-her-confrontation-with-kids-over-green-new-dealwhat dreams said:The thought of having to listen to Sanders bark at me for another year of my life really makes me want to tune out completely -- AND I'M ON HIS SIDE. If he can't convince me to listen to him, how do we expect a corn farmer in Kansas to do so?
Same thing with Cortez. I'm so done with her petty snipes at critics and her cutesy self-serving videos that I think she's nothing more than a narcissistic, entitled snot -- AND I'M ON HER SIDE. If she can't convince me to listen to her, how do we expect a nice church lady in Wyoming to do so?
I guess when I say we need someone who can win, I mean we need someone very good at selling progressive ideas to people who haven't already bought them. You can't blame it all on the media. I consider myself a highly critical consumer of information, and even I can't stomach Cortez, Sanders, or Warren because of they way they talk at people. I'd vote for either old crotch if they win the nomination, but I wouldn't expect to win over my church lady farmer friends, that's for sure.
Be sure to scroll down to see AOC refer to herself as "the boss." Boss of what? She's not Springsteen. Boss of the Democratic party? Maybe in her eyes. I'm sure that'll sit well with her Democratic colleagues.
I like the “non-binding” mention with Mitchy McConnell and his scheduled vote and the last paragraph about climate change and cold weather.
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Good comparison. The two are not even remotely the same.mrussel1 said:
You should watch some old SS footage if you have not. AHC has an entire series on the crimes of the SS. The comparison is akin to comparing a jay-walker to a serial killer.dignin said:They both used their power to abuse kids?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I'm very well aware of the crimes of the SS. And I don't think comparing ICE to SS is fair...yet. But given the right man in charge they could do a lot worse. If anyone thinks that organizations in the US aren't capable of such madness they are naive. A couple of years ago people would have called me crazy if I told them America purposefully separated innocent kids (babies) from their parents permanently and kept them in cages. All because they were following orders. Always have to be aware of what's going on and the potential for worse.mrussel1 said:
You should watch some old SS footage if you have not. AHC has an entire series on the crimes of the SS. The comparison is akin to comparing a jay-walker to a serial killer.dignin said:They both used their power to abuse kids?0 -
I love real classics, particularly Fords, 69-72 Mustangs, anything with a 302 or 351. They are beautiful but the dirty secret is they drive like shit. Gorgeous though. And yeah, buy one that's restored if you are inclined to have one. Let someone else invest.Meltdown99 said:
I was thinking about 50-60's muscle cars. I had to look up your car. Nice. Looks like a real sweet ride. My brother in law rebuilt a '71 Nova, he is not overly mechanically inclined, just loves older muscle cars. I learned some things from his experience, if you do not have the means or the mechanical ability, do not take on these projects...it cost him a small fortune.mrussel1 said:
Well it's not classic in the sense you're thinking of, but it is for me. It was just easier to call a garage queen a classic. It's a 2001 E46 M3 with only 40k on it, which is quite low. It's the sweetest driving vehicle I've ever owned. I only drive it a handful of times per year. I had an E60 M5 with a V10, and while that was a beast, the M3 is a far superior driver's car. I'll never part with it.Meltdown99 said:
Most of us will 6 feet under and self-driving vehicles will still be just a novelty. I've been hearing about electric vehicles for 30 years and they are nowhere near mainstream...mrussel1 said:BTW, we better not fucking ban combustible engines. I'm a car guy. I'm all for green and efficient, but I want my classic in the garage and never want to let it go. And don't get me started on self driving vehicles. If I get driven everywhere, just fucking shoot me now.
I do not own a classic, but I love classic cars. What do you have?
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Not really, SS we're serial killers and ICE has been accused of some pretty heinous crimes not equal to jaywalking. So I don't think the analogy works well.mcgruff10 said:0 -
Waffen SS were systematic purveyors or genocide. They came in behind the army and eliminated the citizenry. This was not only sanctioned, it was required. It was literally in the job duties. I don't see how you can possibly make that comparison unless you have some knowledge no one else has.dignin said:
Not really, SS we're serial killers and ICE has been accused of some pretty heinous crimes not equal to jaywalking. So I don't think the analogy works well.mcgruff10 said:0 -
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