Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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  • dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This should make some Faux and Friends talking heads heads explode.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/25/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-comic-book-trnd/index.html
    Just wow.  I can't understand why some feel the need to make a politician a rockstar.  I mean you end up with a "me first" person....like the president.  People continue to double down on being dumb.
    I can’t understand the fear she strikes in the hearts of repubs, being 1/435 of a body and a freshman one at that. Shiver me timbers.
     
    I don;t understand the fear either.  There is enough things of substance to discuss and disagree about.

    But a fuckin comic book?  Really?  If that was a Trump comic book you'd have already lost your shit and come up with another nickname.
    I could give a rats ass that someone made her into a super hero comic book and yes, I’d love a Tesm Trump Treason comic book to ridicule. If only the repubs were so creative but you know, less art, more god.

    The scardy cat repubs would be wiser to ignore her but you know, BOO, boogeywomen and all.
     
    Ocasio is a page out of the Trump playbook.

    She isn't your typical politician and she attacks the status quo.

    That is why I liked Trump and why I like Ocasio.

    What I don't like about either of them is their crazy ideas.
    Well you are in quite the quandary then, eh?  Crazy ideas tend to come with crazy ass people. 
    Birds of a feather I guess?
    They strike me as the same person, on polar opposites of the spectrum.  I think people will recoil from her ideas as people recoil from Trump's personality.  
    Polar opposites as in Trump is a total lie and she is totally authentic?
    OOOOhHHHHHH!!! We can do this for days!  I'll go next!

    She want to save the planet and he doesn't care about it!

    He wants to deregulate things and she wants more regulation!

    Ok, ok your turn!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited February 2019
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This should make some Faux and Friends talking heads heads explode.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/25/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-comic-book-trnd/index.html
    Just wow.  I can't understand why some feel the need to make a politician a rockstar.  I mean you end up with a "me first" person....like the president.  People continue to double down on being dumb.
    I can’t understand the fear she strikes in the hearts of repubs, being 1/435 of a body and a freshman one at that. Shiver me timbers.
     
    I don;t understand the fear either.  There is enough things of substance to discuss and disagree about.

    But a fuckin comic book?  Really?  If that was a Trump comic book you'd have already lost your shit and come up with another nickname.
    I could give a rats ass that someone made her into a super hero comic book and yes, I’d love a Tesm Trump Treason comic book to ridicule. If only the repubs were so creative but you know, less art, more god.

    The scardy cat repubs would be wiser to ignore her but you know, BOO, boogeywomen and all.
     
    Ocasio is a page out of the Trump playbook.

    She isn't your typical politician and she attacks the status quo.

    That is why I liked Trump and why I like Ocasio.

    What I don't like about either of them is their crazy ideas.
    Well you are in quite the quandary then, eh?  Crazy ideas tend to come with crazy ass people. 
    Birds of a feather I guess?
    They strike me as the same person, on polar opposites of the spectrum.  I think people will recoil from her ideas as people recoil from Trump's personality.  
    Polar opposites as in Trump is a total lie and she is totally authentic?
    OOOOhHHHHHH!!! We can do this for days!  I'll go next!

    She want to save the planet and he doesn't care about it!

    He wants to deregulate things and she wants more regulation!

    Ok, ok your turn!
    Wow, you got excited. I agree with your assessment, do you agree with mine?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    They both take extreme positions and seem to be more concerned with the optics than the execution.  They both appeal to the core of the base, and do not seem to be concerned on how to win the middle.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This should make some Faux and Friends talking heads heads explode.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/25/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-comic-book-trnd/index.html
    Just wow.  I can't understand why some feel the need to make a politician a rockstar.  I mean you end up with a "me first" person....like the president.  People continue to double down on being dumb.
    I can’t understand the fear she strikes in the hearts of repubs, being 1/435 of a body and a freshman one at that. Shiver me timbers.
     
    I don;t understand the fear either.  There is enough things of substance to discuss and disagree about.

    But a fuckin comic book?  Really?  If that was a Trump comic book you'd have already lost your shit and come up with another nickname.
    I could give a rats ass that someone made her into a super hero comic book and yes, I’d love a Tesm Trump Treason comic book to ridicule. If only the repubs were so creative but you know, less art, more god.

    The scardy cat repubs would be wiser to ignore her but you know, BOO, boogeywomen and all.
     
    Ocasio is a page out of the Trump playbook.

    She isn't your typical politician and she attacks the status quo.

    That is why I liked Trump and why I like Ocasio.

    What I don't like about either of them is their crazy ideas.
    Well you are in quite the quandary then, eh?  Crazy ideas tend to come with crazy ass people. 
    Birds of a feather I guess?
    They strike me as the same person, on polar opposites of the spectrum.  I think people will recoil from her ideas as people recoil from Trump's personality.  
    Polar opposites as in Trump is a total lie and she is totally authentic?
    Trump is a fraud, but I don't know that she is authentic.  45 days in congress is not enough time to draw that type of judgment for me.  
  • dignin said:
    dignin said:

    They strike me as the same person, on polar opposites of the spectrum.  I think people will recoil from her ideas as people recoil from Trump's personality.  
    Polar opposites as in Trump is a total lie and she is totally authentic?
    OOOOhHHHHHH!!! We can do this for days!  I'll go next!

    She want to save the planet and he doesn't care about it!

    He wants to deregulate things and she wants more regulation!

    Ok, ok your turn!
    Wow, you got excited. I agree with your assessment, do you agree with mine?
    I do but I also agree w @mrussel1

    They are both sides of the spectrum but at the same time have many similar attributes.
  • I have given up on Trump but have not given up on Cortez yet.

    I am very critical of her but still hope that she can do some good.

    What I do worry is that we try to become too socialist and spend ourselves even deeper in shit.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I have given up on Trump but have not given up on Cortez yet.

    I am very critical of her but still hope that she can do some good.

    What I do worry is that we try to become too socialist and spend ourselves even deeper in shit.
    Massive spending already occurs in ways that are unhealthy for the country, its citizens, and the planet. A change in focus of that spending has the potential to improve the situation. That shouldn’t automatically be seen as a negative. 
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  • cincybearcat
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    mrussel1 said:
    They both take extreme positions and seem to be more concerned with the optics than the execution.  They both appeal to the core of the base, and do not seem to be concerned on how to win the middle.  
    Agree.
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  • jeffbr
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    mrussel1 said:
    They both take extreme positions and seem to be more concerned with the optics than the execution.  They both appeal to the core of the base, and do not seem to be concerned on how to win the middle.  
    Agree.
    Yup. Spot on. While I've expressed admiration for her enthusiasm, she goes with her gut. If she's going to propose radical ideas, she needs to have them fully fleshed out. Otherwise they'll be dismissed not only by the opposition party, but by her own party, as is currently happening. She has a bit of learning to do, and needs a good mentor, because she isn't ready to storm Washington solo. A little time coalition building, negotiating, listening, and moderating would go a long way toward getting her ideas accepted. Making bold declarations and trying to shake up her own party will get her rogue or maverick status, which may not work to her advantage. 
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  • jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    They both take extreme positions and seem to be more concerned with the optics than the execution.  They both appeal to the core of the base, and do not seem to be concerned on how to win the middle.  
    Agree.
    Yup. Spot on. While I've expressed admiration for her enthusiasm, she goes with her gut. If she's going to propose radical ideas, she needs to have them fully fleshed out. Otherwise they'll be dismissed not only by the opposition party, but by her own party, as is currently happening. She has a bit of learning to do, and needs a good mentor, because she isn't ready to storm Washington solo. A little time coalition building, negotiating, listening, and moderating would go a long way toward getting her ideas accepted. Making bold declarations and trying to shake up her own party will get her rogue or maverick status, which may not work to her advantage. 
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  • mrussel1
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    The left complains that conservatives are “obsessing” over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Well, there is a reason for that: Ocasio-Cortez is driving the agenda of today’s Democratic Party — and her economic illiteracy is dangerous.

    Case in point: Last week, Ocasio-Cortez celebrated the tanking of a deal negotiated by her fellow Democrats in which Amazon promised to build a new headquarters in Long Island City, New York, right next to her congressional district. Amazon’s departure cost the city between 25,000 and 40,000 new jobs. Forget the tech workers whom Amazon would have employed. Gone are all the unionized construction jobs to build the headquarters, as well as thousands of jobs created by all the small businesses — restaurants, bodegas, dry cleaners and food carts — that were preparing to open or expand to serve Amazon employees. They are devastated by Amazon’s withdrawal. (Amazon’s founder and chief executive, Jeffrey P. Bezos, also owns The Post.)

    Ocasio-Cortez was not disturbed at all. “We were subsidizing those jobs,” she said. “Frankly, if we were willing to give away $3 billion for this deal, we could invest those $3 billion in our district, ourselves, if we wanted to. We could hire out more teachers. We can fix our subways. We can put a lot of people to work for that amount of money if we wanted to.”

    No, you can’t. Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to realize that New York does not have $3 billion in cash sitting around waiting to be spent on her socialist dreams. The subsidies to Amazon were tax incentives, not cash payouts. It is Amazon’s money, which New York agreed to make tax-exempt, so the company would invest it in building its new headquarters, hiring new workers and generating tens of billions in new tax revenue.

    As New York Mayor Bill de Blasio explained, the Amazon deal would have produced “$27 billion in new tax revenue to fuel priorities from transit to affordable housing — a nine-fold return on the taxes the city and state were prepared to forgo to win the headquarters.” Unlike Ocasio-Cortez’s imaginary $3 billion slush fund, that is real money that actually could have been used to hire teachers, fix subways and put people to work. With Amazon leaving New York, that $27 billion leaves with it. Genius.

    Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to understand that by helping to drive Amazon away, she did not save New York $3 billion; she cost New York $27 billion. There is a difference between having bad ideas and not grasping basic facts. Reasonable people can disagree about whether New York should have offered Amazon $3 billion in tax incentives — or anything at all — to build its headquarters in the city. But that is different from not understanding that New York is not writing a $3 billion check to Amazon.

    Sadly, Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t learn from her mistakes. She made the same kind of error in December when she tweeted, “$21 TRILLION of Pentagon financial transactions ‘could not be traced, documented, or explained.’ $21T in Pentagon accounting errors. Medicare for All costs ~$32T. That means 66% of Medicare for All could have been funded already by the Pentagon.” But, as Pentagon spokesman Christopher Sherwood told The Post, “DoD hasn’t received $21 trillion in (nominal) appropriated funding across the entirety of American history.” Once again, Ocasio-Cortez did not grasp that the Pentagon did not have a magic pile of $21 trillion in cash sitting in a vault somewhere.

    Her economic illiteracy matters because she is the principal author of the Green New Deal, which has been endorsed by most of the leading Democratic candidates for president. From this unschooled mind has sprung the most ambitious plan for government intervention in the economy since Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s train pulled into Petrograd’s Finland Station.

    If Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t understand how tax subsidies work, how can she be trusted to plan the federal takeover of the health-care, energy and transportation sectors of our economy? Think she and her allies have any idea how to, as her now infamous talking points put it, upgrade or replace “every building in America” . . . or replace “every combustible-engine vehicle” . . . or connect every corner of America with high-speed rail . . . or replace all fossil-fuel energy with alternative energy sources — all in 10 years’ time? Apparently, they think we just have to find all the magic pots of cash the government is hiding.

    When this kind of ignorance is driving policymaking in Washington, America is in profound danger. Amazon left New York because Ocasio-Cortez and her fellow democratic socialists created a hostile environment in the city. And if Ocasio-Cortez has her way, Democrats are going to do to the rest of America what they just did to New York.

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  • mrussel1
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    BTW, we better not fucking ban combustible engines.  I'm a car guy.  I'm all for green and efficient, but I want my classic in the garage and never want to let it go.  And don't get me started on self driving vehicles.  If I get driven everywhere, just fucking shoot me now.  
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:

    The left complains that conservatives are “obsessing” over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Well, there is a reason for that: Ocasio-Cortez is driving the agenda of today’s Democratic Party — and her economic illiteracy is dangerous.

    Case in point: Last week, Ocasio-Cortez celebrated the tanking of a deal negotiated by her fellow Democrats in which Amazon promised to build a new headquarters in Long Island City, New York, right next to her congressional district. Amazon’s departure cost the city between 25,000 and 40,000 new jobs. Forget the tech workers whom Amazon would have employed. Gone are all the unionized construction jobs to build the headquarters, as well as thousands of jobs created by all the small businesses — restaurants, bodegas, dry cleaners and food carts — that were preparing to open or expand to serve Amazon employees. They are devastated by Amazon’s withdrawal. (Amazon’s founder and chief executive, Jeffrey P. Bezos, also owns The Post.)

    Ocasio-Cortez was not disturbed at all. “We were subsidizing those jobs,” she said. “Frankly, if we were willing to give away $3 billion for this deal, we could invest those $3 billion in our district, ourselves, if we wanted to. We could hire out more teachers. We can fix our subways. We can put a lot of people to work for that amount of money if we wanted to.”

    No, you can’t. Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to realize that New York does not have $3 billion in cash sitting around waiting to be spent on her socialist dreams. The subsidies to Amazon were tax incentives, not cash payouts. It is Amazon’s money, which New York agreed to make tax-exempt, so the company would invest it in building its new headquarters, hiring new workers and generating tens of billions in new tax revenue.

    As New York Mayor Bill de Blasio explained, the Amazon deal would have produced “$27 billion in new tax revenue to fuel priorities from transit to affordable housing — a nine-fold return on the taxes the city and state were prepared to forgo to win the headquarters.” Unlike Ocasio-Cortez’s imaginary $3 billion slush fund, that is real money that actually could have been used to hire teachers, fix subways and put people to work. With Amazon leaving New York, that $27 billion leaves with it. Genius.

    Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to understand that by helping to drive Amazon away, she did not save New York $3 billion; she cost New York $27 billion. There is a difference between having bad ideas and not grasping basic facts. Reasonable people can disagree about whether New York should have offered Amazon $3 billion in tax incentives — or anything at all — to build its headquarters in the city. But that is different from not understanding that New York is not writing a $3 billion check to Amazon.

    Sadly, Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t learn from her mistakes. She made the same kind of error in December when she tweeted, “$21 TRILLION of Pentagon financial transactions ‘could not be traced, documented, or explained.’ $21T in Pentagon accounting errors. Medicare for All costs ~$32T. That means 66% of Medicare for All could have been funded already by the Pentagon.” But, as Pentagon spokesman Christopher Sherwood told The Post, “DoD hasn’t received $21 trillion in (nominal) appropriated funding across the entirety of American history.” Once again, Ocasio-Cortez did not grasp that the Pentagon did not have a magic pile of $21 trillion in cash sitting in a vault somewhere.

    Her economic illiteracy matters because she is the principal author of the Green New Deal, which has been endorsed by most of the leading Democratic candidates for president. From this unschooled mind has sprung the most ambitious plan for government intervention in the economy since Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s train pulled into Petrograd’s Finland Station.

    If Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t understand how tax subsidies work, how can she be trusted to plan the federal takeover of the health-care, energy and transportation sectors of our economy? Think she and her allies have any idea how to, as her now infamous talking points put it, upgrade or replace “every building in America” . . . or replace “every combustible-engine vehicle” . . . or connect every corner of America with high-speed rail . . . or replace all fossil-fuel energy with alternative energy sources — all in 10 years’ time? Apparently, they think we just have to find all the magic pots of cash the government is hiding.

    When this kind of ignorance is driving policymaking in Washington, America is in profound danger. Amazon left New York because Ocasio-Cortez and her fellow democratic socialists created a hostile environment in the city. And if Ocasio-Cortez has her way, Democrats are going to do to the rest of America what they just did to New York.

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    Thiessen has worked in Washington, D.C., for many years, starting with five years at Lobbying firm Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly. He spent six years (1995–2001) on Capitol Hill as spokesman and senior policy advisor to Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms (R-NC).[4][5
  • Meltdown99
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    mrussel1 said:
    BTW, we better not fucking ban combustible engines.  I'm a car guy.  I'm all for green and efficient, but I want my classic in the garage and never want to let it go.  And don't get me started on self driving vehicles.  If I get driven everywhere, just fucking shoot me now.  
    Most of us will 6 feet under and self-driving vehicles will still be just a novelty.  I've been hearing about electric vehicles for 30 years and they are nowhere near mainstream...

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  • dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:

    The left complains that conservatives are “obsessing” over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Well, there is a reason for that: Ocasio-Cortez is driving the agenda of today’s Democratic Party — and her economic illiteracy is dangerous.

    Case in point: Last week, Ocasio-Cortez celebrated the tanking of a deal negotiated by her fellow Democrats in which Amazon promised to build a new headquarters in Long Island City, New York, right next to her congressional district. Amazon’s departure cost the city between 25,000 and 40,000 new jobs. Forget the tech workers whom Amazon would have employed. Gone are all the unionized construction jobs to build the headquarters, as well as thousands of jobs created by all the small businesses — restaurants, bodegas, dry cleaners and food carts — that were preparing to open or expand to serve Amazon employees. They are devastated by Amazon’s withdrawal. (Amazon’s founder and chief executive, Jeffrey P. Bezos, also owns The Post.)

    Ocasio-Cortez was not disturbed at all. “We were subsidizing those jobs,” she said. “Frankly, if we were willing to give away $3 billion for this deal, we could invest those $3 billion in our district, ourselves, if we wanted to. We could hire out more teachers. We can fix our subways. We can put a lot of people to work for that amount of money if we wanted to.”

    No, you can’t. Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to realize that New York does not have $3 billion in cash sitting around waiting to be spent on her socialist dreams. The subsidies to Amazon were tax incentives, not cash payouts. It is Amazon’s money, which New York agreed to make tax-exempt, so the company would invest it in building its new headquarters, hiring new workers and generating tens of billions in new tax revenue.

    As New York Mayor Bill de Blasio explained, the Amazon deal would have produced “$27 billion in new tax revenue to fuel priorities from transit to affordable housing — a nine-fold return on the taxes the city and state were prepared to forgo to win the headquarters.” Unlike Ocasio-Cortez’s imaginary $3 billion slush fund, that is real money that actually could have been used to hire teachers, fix subways and put people to work. With Amazon leaving New York, that $27 billion leaves with it. Genius.

    Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to understand that by helping to drive Amazon away, she did not save New York $3 billion; she cost New York $27 billion. There is a difference between having bad ideas and not grasping basic facts. Reasonable people can disagree about whether New York should have offered Amazon $3 billion in tax incentives — or anything at all — to build its headquarters in the city. But that is different from not understanding that New York is not writing a $3 billion check to Amazon.

    Sadly, Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t learn from her mistakes. She made the same kind of error in December when she tweeted, “$21 TRILLION of Pentagon financial transactions ‘could not be traced, documented, or explained.’ $21T in Pentagon accounting errors. Medicare for All costs ~$32T. That means 66% of Medicare for All could have been funded already by the Pentagon.” But, as Pentagon spokesman Christopher Sherwood told The Post, “DoD hasn’t received $21 trillion in (nominal) appropriated funding across the entirety of American history.” Once again, Ocasio-Cortez did not grasp that the Pentagon did not have a magic pile of $21 trillion in cash sitting in a vault somewhere.

    Her economic illiteracy matters because she is the principal author of the Green New Deal, which has been endorsed by most of the leading Democratic candidates for president. From this unschooled mind has sprung the most ambitious plan for government intervention in the economy since Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s train pulled into Petrograd’s Finland Station.

    If Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t understand how tax subsidies work, how can she be trusted to plan the federal takeover of the health-care, energy and transportation sectors of our economy? Think she and her allies have any idea how to, as her now infamous talking points put it, upgrade or replace “every building in America” . . . or replace “every combustible-engine vehicle” . . . or connect every corner of America with high-speed rail . . . or replace all fossil-fuel energy with alternative energy sources — all in 10 years’ time? Apparently, they think we just have to find all the magic pots of cash the government is hiding.

    When this kind of ignorance is driving policymaking in Washington, America is in profound danger. Amazon left New York because Ocasio-Cortez and her fellow democratic socialists created a hostile environment in the city. And if Ocasio-Cortez has her way, Democrats are going to do to the rest of America what they just did to New York.

    Read more from Marc Thiessen’s archive, follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his updates on Facebook.

    Just so you know, I'm gonna take anything this guy says with a HUGE grain of salt.


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    Thiessen has worked in Washington, D.C., for many years, starting with five years at Lobbying firm Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly. He spent six years (1995–2001) on Capitol Hill as spokesman and senior policy advisor to Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms (R-NC).[4][5
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    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:

    (TRUNCATED)

    As New York Mayor Bill de Blasio explained, the Amazon deal would have produced “$27 billion in new tax revenue to fuel priorities from transit to affordable housing — a nine-fold return on the taxes the city and state were prepared to forgo to win the headquarters.” Unlike Ocasio-Cortez’s imaginary $3 billion slush fund, that is real money that actually could have been used to hire teachers, fix subways and put people to work. With Amazon leaving New York, that $27 billion leaves with it. Genius.

    Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to understand that by helping to drive Amazon away, she did not save New York $3 billion; she cost New York $27 billion. There is a difference between having bad ideas and not grasping basic facts. Reasonable people can disagree about whether New York should have offered Amazon $3 billion in tax incentives — or anything at all — to build its headquarters in the city. But that is different from not understanding that New York is not writing a $3 billion check to Amazon.

    Sadly, Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t learn from her mistakes. She made the same kind of error in December when she tweeted, “$21 TRILLION of Pentagon financial transactions ‘could not be traced, documented, or explained.’ $21T in Pentagon accounting errors. Medicare for All costs ~$32T. That means 66% of Medicare for All could have been funded already by the Pentagon.” But, as Pentagon spokesman Christopher Sherwood told The Post, “DoD hasn’t received $21 trillion in (nominal) appropriated funding across the entirety of American history.” Once again, Ocasio-Cortez did not grasp that the Pentagon did not have a magic pile of $21 trillion in cash sitting in a vault somewhere.

    Her economic illiteracy matters because she is the principal author of the Green New Deal, which has been endorsed by most of the leading Democratic candidates for president. From this unschooled mind has sprung the most ambitious plan for government intervention in the economy since Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s train pulled into Petrograd’s Finland Station.

    If Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t understand how tax subsidies work, how can she be trusted to plan the federal takeover of the health-care, energy and transportation sectors of our economy? Think she and her allies have any idea how to, as her now infamous talking points put it, upgrade or replace “every building in America” . . . or replace “every combustible-engine vehicle” . . . or connect every corner of America with high-speed rail . . . or replace all fossil-fuel energy with alternative energy sources — all in 10 years’ time? Apparently, they think we just have to find all the magic pots of cash the government is hiding.

    When this kind of ignorance is driving policymaking in Washington, America is in profound danger. Amazon left New York because Ocasio-Cortez and her fellow democratic socialists created a hostile environment in the city. And if Ocasio-Cortez has her way, Democrats are going to do to the rest of America what they just did to New York.

    Read more from Marc Thiessen’s archive, follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his updates on Facebook.

    Just so you know, I'm gonna take anything this guy says with a HUGE grain of salt.


    Marc Alexander Thiessen (born January 13, 1967) is an American author, columnist, and political commentator. He writes for The Washington Postnewspaper. He served as a speechwriter for United States President George W. Bush (2004–09) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (2001–06).[1


    Thiessen has worked in Washington, D.C., for many years, starting with five years at Lobbying firm Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly. He spent six years (1995–2001) on Capitol Hill as spokesman and senior policy advisor to Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms (R-NC).[4][5
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    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:

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    As New York Mayor Bill de Blasio explained, the Amazon deal would have produced “$27 billion in new tax revenue to fuel priorities from transit to affordable housing — a nine-fold return on the taxes the city and state were prepared to forgo to win the headquarters.” Unlike Ocasio-Cortez’s imaginary $3 billion slush fund, that is real money that actually could have been used to hire teachers, fix subways and put people to work. With Amazon leaving New York, that $27 billion leaves with it. Genius.

    Ocasio-Cortez does not seem to understand that by helping to drive Amazon away, she did not save New York $3 billion; she cost New York $27 billion. There is a difference between having bad ideas and not grasping basic facts. Reasonable people can disagree about whether New York should have offered Amazon $3 billion in tax incentives — or anything at all — to build its headquarters in the city. But that is different from not understanding that New York is not writing a $3 billion check to Amazon.

    Sadly, Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t learn from her mistakes. She made the same kind of error in December when she tweeted, “$21 TRILLION of Pentagon financial transactions ‘could not be traced, documented, or explained.’ $21T in Pentagon accounting errors. Medicare for All costs ~$32T. That means 66% of Medicare for All could have been funded already by the Pentagon.” But, as Pentagon spokesman Christopher Sherwood told The Post, “DoD hasn’t received $21 trillion in (nominal) appropriated funding across the entirety of American history.” Once again, Ocasio-Cortez did not grasp that the Pentagon did not have a magic pile of $21 trillion in cash sitting in a vault somewhere.

    Her economic illiteracy matters because she is the principal author of the Green New Deal, which has been endorsed by most of the leading Democratic candidates for president. From this unschooled mind has sprung the most ambitious plan for government intervention in the economy since Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s train pulled into Petrograd’s Finland Station.

    If Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t understand how tax subsidies work, how can she be trusted to plan the federal takeover of the health-care, energy and transportation sectors of our economy? Think she and her allies have any idea how to, as her now infamous talking points put it, upgrade or replace “every building in America” . . . or replace “every combustible-engine vehicle” . . . or connect every corner of America with high-speed rail . . . or replace all fossil-fuel energy with alternative energy sources — all in 10 years’ time? Apparently, they think we just have to find all the magic pots of cash the government is hiding.

    When this kind of ignorance is driving policymaking in Washington, America is in profound danger. Amazon left New York because Ocasio-Cortez and her fellow democratic socialists created a hostile environment in the city. And if Ocasio-Cortez has her way, Democrats are going to do to the rest of America what they just did to New York.

    Read more from Marc Thiessen’s archive, follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his updates on Facebook.

    Just so you know, I'm gonna take anything this guy says with a HUGE grain of salt.


    Marc Alexander Thiessen (born January 13, 1967) is an American author, columnist, and political commentator. He writes for The Washington Postnewspaper. He served as a speechwriter for United States President George W. Bush (2004–09) and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (2001–06).[1


    Thiessen has worked in Washington, D.C., for many years, starting with five years at Lobbying firm Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly. He spent six years (1995–2001) on Capitol Hill as spokesman and senior policy advisor to Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms (R-NC).[4][5
    Personally, I'm not sure I care who a politically charged article is written by, just that the politically charged article has factual content and logical deductions. Do you disagree that the article has factual content and logical deductions? 
    Yes I do.