Bernie Sanders 2020

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,892
    edited February 2019
    mace1229 said:
    Voting for a woman just to vote for a woman is not the way to go about this.

    Have Bernie get a good VP and that would bolster his nomination.

    No way Kamala gets even close to a primary.
    I don't see how that is any less sexist that if I were to say I could never vote for a woman. I'm dumbfounded every time i hear someone say something along those lines (which doesn't seem that uncommon). Same with color or pretty much any reason other than political and where they stand on views.
    You saying that "you will only vote for a woman" is sexist, yes.  Me telling you that it's the wrong way to go about voting is not.

    Your mind is made up already when saying this so how is that not sexist?

    My mind isn't made up yet.  Not sure whom I'm voting for.

    This is reaching for something that isn't there mace1229...


    I guess I wasn't clear, I was agreeing with you.
    I just think anyone who says they will vote for someone because they are a woman is equally as sexist as if I were to say I won't vote for someone because they are a woman. I was just pointing out that I hear all the time "I'll vote for the next woman" and I think that is wrong.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    I’m 99.9% not voting for Bernie. If he’s the nominee I’m not sure I’ll vote at all.
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  • mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Voting for a woman just to vote for a woman is not the way to go about this.

    Have Bernie get a good VP and that would bolster his nomination.

    No way Kamala gets even close to a primary.
    I don't see how that is any less sexist that if I were to say I could never vote for a woman. I'm dumbfounded every time i hear someone say something along those lines (which doesn't seem that uncommon). Same with color or pretty much any reason other than political and where they stand on views.
    You saying that "you will only vote for a woman" is sexist, yes.  Me telling you that it's the wrong way to go about voting is not.

    Your mind is made up already when saying this so how is that not sexist?

    My mind isn't made up yet.  Not sure whom I'm voting for.

    This is reaching for something that isn't there mace1229...


    I guess I wasn't clear, I agree with you.
    I just think anyone who says they will vote for someone because they are a woman is equally as sexist as if I were to say I won't vote for someone because they are a woman. I was just pointing out that I hear all the time "I'll vote for the next woman" and I think that is wrong.
    Ahhhh, ok.  

    I thought it was directed at me, lol.

    Totally agree w you.
  • my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    Got it!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    Nice bookshelves, Bernie.

    But seriously, I really like Bernie, I stand behind what he says- it's all true- and I think he would be a VAST improvement over Trump (but then so would almost anyone), but to be honest, seeing Bernie running again leaves me feeling weary of the whole business. 

    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    This is as real as it gets, m2h.

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,892
    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    There's nothing wrong with voting for all women if you thought they were the best candidate.  But if you wanted real change, wouldn't it be a better message to say "give me a clear agenda I agree with and you have my vote" instead of "don't have a penis and you have my vote"? That sounds contradictory to everything we try to teach kids and young women.
  • my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    That's real "gangsta"
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    That's real "gangsta"
    Image result for white boy gangsta
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    No, no, no.
  • dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    That's real "gangsta"
    Image result for white boy gangsta
    I-Noticed-That-Youre-Gangster-Im-Pretty-Gangster-Myself-Magnet-C13110303jpeg
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Are those nunchuk's? Lol
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    njnancy said:
    No, no, no.
    Why are you scared?
  • Sen. Bernie Sanders has raised more than $1 million for his 2020 presidential campaign in less than four hours, his team confirms, putting him well ahead of other contenders who launched their bids with strong financial support.

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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    my2hands said:
    njnancy said:
    No, no, no.
    Why are you scared?
    LOL - Not scared, my reaction just happened to fall under the gangster post.

    no, no, no is my reaction to Sander's running. Not needed and for a lot of people, not wanted. 
  • Meltdown99
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    ^^^ LOL.  "THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING IN ALL CAPS!"  haha!

    Bernie running comes as a bit of a surprise for me.  The field is already crowded, many people are concerned about his age, he lost last time around.  But then when you think about how his ideas and policies have been adopted by a lot of the other men and women running in that pack, the thought occurs to me- So why not give the man who promoted those ideas in a way that led to them being widely embraced- why not give him a shot at running against Trump? 

    It's too early for me to decide who I will support, but I'm not counting out Bernie.  He seems to be the same guy I supported last time (until he lost out to Hillary).
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    At least this will bring Larry David back out of hiding!
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    Party On, Dudes!
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    ^^^ LOL.  "THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING IN ALL CAPS!"  haha!

    Bernie running comes as a bit of a surprise for me.  The field is already crowded, many people are concerned about his age, he lost last time around.  But then when you think about how his ideas and policies have been adopted by a lot of the other men and women running in that pack, the thought occurs to me- So why not give the man who promoted those ideas in a way that led to them being widely embraced- why not give him a shot at running against Trump? 

    It's too early for me to decide who I will support, but I'm not counting out Bernie.  He seems to be the same guy I supported last time (until he lost out to Hillary).
    If he were to become POTUS how would the Chinese and the Russians know when he is truly pissed off.  He is always loud and sounds so angry...lol


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  • Meltdown99
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