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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    He will not get the Dem nod...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569
    Meltdown99 said:
    He will not get the Dem nod...
    Who will?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,569



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Probably way too early to tell.  I think if Biden runs, he stands a good chance and would defeat Trump, of course, I never thought Trump would win the Presidency...lol
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,297
    Bernie, its a cheap fucking move. Run as what you identify. Democratic Socialist or not at all

    You switch parties when it suits you, ala someone else we know and abhor.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    He will not get the Dem nod...
    Who will?
    Hard to say with 8 million hats in the ring.  I think he has a shot because of the regret of handing it to Hillary last time.  I could see it coming down to personality (Beto) Vs Experience (Biden) But one of the women is going to separate herself from the others.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
    Well, in his defense, Bernie does look like an old grandma...
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
    Well, in his defense, Bernie does look like an old grandma...
    Yikes, I hope your grandma doesn't or didn't look like that.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
    Well, in his defense, Bernie does look like an old grandma...
    Yikes, I hope your grandma doesn't or didn't look like that.
    My grandma has been dead for 10 or so years, so they probably look about the same now.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
    He’s all talk! ;)
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
    Well, in his defense, Bernie does look like an old grandma...
    Yikes, I hope your grandma doesn't or didn't look like that.
    My grandma has been dead for 10 or so years, so they probably look about the same now.
    Zing!
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
    Well, in his defense, Bernie does look like an old grandma...
    Yikes, I hope your grandma doesn't or didn't look like that.
    My grandma has been dead for 10 or so years, so they probably look about the same now.
    Zing!
    Lol, seriously, though, I am a bit surprised he is throwing his hat in the ring again.  Seems like a party splitter.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Voting for a woman just to vote for a woman is not the way to go about this.

    Have Bernie get a good VP and that would bolster his nomination.

    No way Kamala gets even close to a primary.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,484
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Voting for a woman just to vote for a woman is not the way to go about this.

    Have Bernie get a good VP and that would bolster his nomination.

    No way Kamala gets even close to a primary.
    I don't see how that is any less sexist that if I were to say I could never vote for a woman. I'm dumbfounded every time i hear someone say something along those lines (which doesn't seem that uncommon). Same with color or pretty much any reason other than political and where they stand on views.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Voting for a woman just to vote for a woman is not the way to go about this.

    Have Bernie get a good VP and that would bolster his nomination.

    No way Kamala gets even close to a primary.
    I don't see how that is any less sexist that if I were to say I could never vote for a woman. I'm dumbfounded every time i hear someone say something along those lines (which doesn't seem that uncommon). Same with color or pretty much any reason other than political and where they stand on views.
    You saying that "you will only vote for a woman" is sexist, yes.  Me telling you that it's the wrong way to go about voting is not.

    Your mind is made up already when saying this so how is that not sexist?

    My mind isn't made up yet.  Not sure whom I'm voting for.

    This is reaching for something that isn't there mace1229...


  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Got my primary vote again unless someone works real hard to change it
    I’m a bit surprised.  Thought you’d go female.
    Well, in his defense, Bernie does look like an old grandma...
    Yikes, I hope your grandma doesn't or didn't look like that.
    My grandma has been dead for 10 or so years, so they probably look about the same now.
    Zing!
    Lol, seriously, though, I am a bit surprised he is throwing his hat in the ring again.  Seems like a party splitter.
    I agree, he had his time. I feel like this is more about keeping his name in the news than trying to do what's right for the country.

    Most of his policy ideas are being touted by the other candidates, so it's not like he needs to be there to pull the party more left. Those discussions were going to happen without him.

    I say this as a guy who likes Bernie.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    edited February 2019
    I was really hoping Bernie would stay out of the race. I don't think he can get the nomination and is not someone I feel confident could beat Trump. Plus, I don't think I can put up with listening to him debate or campaign...again. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    He will not get the Dem nod...
    Who will?
    Whoever Bernie endorses after he drops out
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,484
    edited February 2019
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Voting for a woman just to vote for a woman is not the way to go about this.

    Have Bernie get a good VP and that would bolster his nomination.

    No way Kamala gets even close to a primary.
    I don't see how that is any less sexist that if I were to say I could never vote for a woman. I'm dumbfounded every time i hear someone say something along those lines (which doesn't seem that uncommon). Same with color or pretty much any reason other than political and where they stand on views.
    You saying that "you will only vote for a woman" is sexist, yes.  Me telling you that it's the wrong way to go about voting is not.

    Your mind is made up already when saying this so how is that not sexist?

    My mind isn't made up yet.  Not sure whom I'm voting for.

    This is reaching for something that isn't there mace1229...


    I guess I wasn't clear, I was agreeing with you.
    I just think anyone who says they will vote for someone because they are a woman is equally as sexist as if I were to say I won't vote for someone because they are a woman. I was just pointing out that I hear all the time "I'll vote for the next woman" and I think that is wrong.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    I’m 99.9% not voting for Bernie. If he’s the nominee I’m not sure I’ll vote at all.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Voting for a woman just to vote for a woman is not the way to go about this.

    Have Bernie get a good VP and that would bolster his nomination.

    No way Kamala gets even close to a primary.
    I don't see how that is any less sexist that if I were to say I could never vote for a woman. I'm dumbfounded every time i hear someone say something along those lines (which doesn't seem that uncommon). Same with color or pretty much any reason other than political and where they stand on views.
    You saying that "you will only vote for a woman" is sexist, yes.  Me telling you that it's the wrong way to go about voting is not.

    Your mind is made up already when saying this so how is that not sexist?

    My mind isn't made up yet.  Not sure whom I'm voting for.

    This is reaching for something that isn't there mace1229...


    I guess I wasn't clear, I agree with you.
    I just think anyone who says they will vote for someone because they are a woman is equally as sexist as if I were to say I won't vote for someone because they are a woman. I was just pointing out that I hear all the time "I'll vote for the next woman" and I think that is wrong.
    Ahhhh, ok.  

    I thought it was directed at me, lol.

    Totally agree w you.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    Got it!
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,300
    Nice bookshelves, Bernie.

    But seriously, I really like Bernie, I stand behind what he says- it's all true- and I think he would be a VAST improvement over Trump (but then so would almost anyone), but to be honest, seeing Bernie running again leaves me feeling weary of the whole business. 

    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    This is as real as it gets, m2h.

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,484
    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    There's nothing wrong with voting for all women if you thought they were the best candidate.  But if you wanted real change, wouldn't it be a better message to say "give me a clear agenda I agree with and you have my vote" instead of "don't have a penis and you have my vote"? That sounds contradictory to everything we try to teach kids and young women.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    That's real "gangsta"
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    my2hands said:
    I voted for only women in 2018... plan on doing the same for years to come until we've reached some level of balance in our representation... this also includes minorities, non-christian, and LGBTQ candidates... there are some exceptions to this, and the 2020 primary and POTUS election likely falls into that category... if I'm feeling gangsta I'm going Bernie... if I'm feeling moderate I'm going with Uncle Joe... and of course this can all change 

    And, drum roll please, i don't give AF is people like it or not... what is sexist is the history of politics in this country being the boys club, fuck that noise
    That's real "gangsta"
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    No, no, no.
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