Bernie Sanders 2020
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cincybearcat said:OnWis97 said:mace1229 said:brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:brianlux said:^^^ LOL. "THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING IN ALL CAPS!" haha!Bernie running comes as a bit of a surprise for me. The field is already crowded, many people are concerned about his age, he lost last time around. But then when you think about how his ideas and policies have been adopted by a lot of the other men and women running in that pack, the thought occurs to me- So why not give the man who promoted those ideas in a way that led to them being widely embraced- why not give him a shot at running against Trump?It's too early for me to decide who I will support, but I'm not counting out Bernie. He seems to be the same guy I supported last time (until he lost out to Hillary).HughFreakingDillon said:thanks Bernie, for those 4 more of years of Trump nobody wanted.
It was a perfect storm:- Anger about eight years of a "you know what" president riling up what has become "the base."
- Absolute clown-car of GOP candidates (and Kasich, who lacked personality).
- The electoral college being set up perfectly (unfortunately, this isn't going to change in the forseeable future).
- The media, in "treating Trump unfairly" giving him free face time ad nauseum.
- No "next Obama" to truly energize the dems.
- The Democratic Party thinking it was "her turn" and seemingly missing the memo that Hillary's been hated since 1991.
- The rise of "fake news" and likely interference from another nation that seemingly had a stake in the election.
- Constant barrage of "news" that this was going to be a slam dunk for HRC.
- Comey opening the investigation in late October.
It seems like there were plenty of non clown options.
To me, as a fairly liberal guy, not one of them was tolerable. I could have lived with a McCain or a Romney as president (though don't get me started on their running mates). I personally thought all of these people (with the possible exception of Kasich, who I have issues with) were awful.
And to the point of my post, there really wasn't anyone there that was going to beat Trump.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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Kat said:I'm wondering about this one because I read that the Democratic Party changed the rules a while back that you had to be a registered Democrat for the nomination. I also read that Senator Sanders wasn't one. Did I read correctly or are people mixed up....like I am.. Does anyone know the truth of this? Thanks in advance all.
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Kat said:I'm wondering about this one because I read that the Democratic Party changed the rules a while back that you had to be a registered Democrat for the nomination. I also read that Senator Sanders wasn't one. Did I read correctly or are people mixed up....like I am.. Does anyone know the truth of this? Thanks in advance all.
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Cincy had a similar link. Sorry for the duplication1993: 11/22 Little Rock
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Image for you. Split screen. Bernie on the left, yelling about "free everything." Venezuela in protest marches, public demonstrations and fleeing the country on the right. Done and done.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:Image for you. Split screen. Bernie on the left, yelling about "free everything." Venezuela in protest marches, public demonstrations and fleeing the country on the right. Done and done.hippiemom = goodness0
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He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. Freedom
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my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. Freedomhippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. Freedom09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. Freedomhippiemom = goodness0 -
my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. Freedom
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OnWis97 said:my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. Freedomhippiemom = goodness0 -
my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. FreedomDo you suppose there will come a day when the average American will understand the differences between communism, socialism, state capitalism, and democratic socialism?Nahhh, that would be too much like having to work at being educated. That's also why it will be perceived as a race between Socialism vs Freedom. Simple formulas for simple minded America.
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brianlux said:my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. FreedomDo you suppose there will come a day when the average American will understand the differences between communism, socialism, state capitalism, and democratic socialism?Nahhh, that would be too much like having to work at being educated. That's also why it will be perceived as a race between Socialism vs Freedom. Simple formulas for simple minded America.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:brianlux said:my2hands said:He is saying the GOP platform in 2020 is going to be very simple, socialism is evil and the GOP and Trump represent freedom and "free markets" (whatever that means at this point lol)
He has a point, and it would likely work... I think that's why the right wing media focused on AOC, because their only saving grace could be to make the election as simple as Socialism v. FreedomDo you suppose there will come a day when the average American will understand the differences between communism, socialism, state capitalism, and democratic socialism?Nahhh, that would be too much like having to work at being educated. That's also why it will be perceived as a race between Socialism vs Freedom. Simple formulas for simple minded America.LOL, yeah, he really did tweet that.Thing is, if he really did love the uneducated he would would want to help them become better educated- or rather (and more importantly) to learn to use critical thinking, common sense, and wise judgement, all of which come before just simply knowing a bunch of shit. And that takes us back to the subject at hand here- Bernie Sanders would want these things for all people.
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Bernie has my primary vote as of right now. I would love to see him debate Trump. Biden is the only other candidate I can see myself voting for in the primaries. It’s early, we shall see.
Weird thing about the 2016 race, every deplorable I know was voting and or supported Bernie during primary, but for some odd reason supported Trump after Hillary got the nomination. Bizzaro. Pretty sure Bernie would have won Michigan.Detroit 2000, Detroit 2003 1-2, Grand Rapids VFC 2004, Philly 2005, Grand Rapids 2006, Detroit 2006, Cleveland 2006, Lollapalooza 2007, Detroit Eddie Solo 2011, Detroit 2014, Chicago 2016 1-2, Chicago 2018 1-2, Ohana Encore 2021 1-2, Chicago Eddie/Earthlings 2022 1-2, Nashville 2022, St. Louis 2022
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brianlux said:Spiritual_Chaos said:hippiemom = goodness0
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