I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
Oh goodie a meme. Always good for discussion.
The funniest part of that meme, it's showing 2 guys who are very successful capitalist...lol
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I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
Oh goodie a meme. Always good for discussion.
The funniest part of that meme, it's showing 2 guys who are very successful capitalist...lol
I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
Oh goodie a meme. Always good for discussion.
The funniest part of that meme, it's showing 2 guys who are very successful capitalist...lol
Aren't they also in some feud and on a non-speaking basis with each other?
I guess that is also quite telling of this capitalistic success.
#VivaTheScandinavianModel
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
Oh goodie a meme. Always good for discussion.
The funniest part of that meme, it's showing 2 guys who are very successful capitalist...lol
Aren't they also in some feud and on a non-speaking basis with each other?
I guess that is also quite telling of this capitalistic success.
I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
Oh goodie a meme. Always good for discussion.
The funniest part of that meme, it's showing 2 guys who are very successful capitalist...lol
Aren't they also in some feud and on a non-speaking basis with each other?
I guess that is also quite telling of this capitalistic success.
#VivaTheScandinavianModel
No arguments in Scandinavia!!!
I mean, the argument about Agnetha VS Anni-Frid has always been there.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
Oh goodie a meme. Always good for discussion.
The funniest part of that meme, it's showing 2 guys who are very successful capitalist...lol
Aren't they also in some feud and on a non-speaking basis with each other?
I guess that is also quite telling of this capitalistic success.
#VivaTheScandinavianModel
What do people arguing and not speaking have to do with capitalism? Do people not fight in socialist Sweden?
I'll have to watch the rest later but what he says early on makes sense. Sander's ideas, a few years ago labeled "radical" are widely accepted and promoted within the Dem party. That being the case, it makes sense to nominate the man who formulated and spread those ideas.
Especially since it worked so well for them in the last president election to let Bernie (an independent) move their party left.
What had Bernies left leaning politics to do with anything in that election?
Just my opinion. Moved the party left and gave some republicans who hated trump reason to vote against Dems. And independents.
It certsinly had me not wanting to vote for the Dems.
Oh goodie a meme. Always good for discussion.
The funniest part of that meme, it's showing 2 guys who are very successful capitalist...lol
Aren't they also in some feud and on a non-speaking basis with each other?
I guess that is also quite telling of this capitalistic success.
#VivaTheScandinavianModel
What do people arguing and not speaking have to do with capitalism? Do people not fight in socialist Sweden?
See the post above yours for the answer.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Some pretty cool pictures in here. The one from Madison, Wisconsin July 2015 really stood out to me.
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Bernie sounding like he’ll go to war with Putin on the ritz for cyber warfare against the US. Also, unlike Team Trump Treason, believes Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Last election in Venezuela was “undemocratic.” Bernie better turn off the tv.
I love Bernie and think his heart is in the right place but I’m withdrawing my support and I am officially uncommitted. I think the dem ticket should consist of 2 of these 5. Booker, Biden, Beto, Harris, Warren.
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Biden is your next potus if he runs, which I assume he is
he has the Obamas in his back pocket, which is gold in the democratic primary.... that's why he didn't run in 2016 so Hillary would have them in her corner on the campaign trail, as they would have had to support Joe in the primary
Biden is your next potus if he runs, which I assume he is
he has the Obamas in his back pocket, which is gold in the democratic primary.... that's why he didn't run in 2016 so Hillary would have them in her corner on the campaign trail, as they would have had to support Joe in the primary
This goes against everything Biden has said about why he didn't run...
Source for that?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Biden is your next potus if he runs, which I assume he is
he has the Obamas in his back pocket, which is gold in the democratic primary.... that's why he didn't run in 2016 so Hillary would have them in her corner on the campaign trail, as they would have had to support Joe in the primary
This goes against everything Biden has said about why he didn't run...
Source for that?
Dont need a source... they cleared the way for Hillary... if he is in the primary Obama couldn't support the chisen one, Hillary
Seems obvious to me... and of course he would bever never publicly state that
Biden is your next potus if he runs, which I assume he is
he has the Obamas in his back pocket, which is gold in the democratic primary.... that's why he didn't run in 2016 so Hillary would have them in her corner on the campaign trail, as they would have had to support Joe in the primary
This goes against everything Biden has said about why he didn't run...
Source for that?
Dont need a source... they cleared the way for Hillary... if he is in the primary Obama couldn't support the chisen one, Hillary
Seems obvious to me... and of course he would bever never publicly state that
So You’re saying he would use his son, dead from cancer and who Biden cant even mention without tearing up, as some kind of false narrative to not run?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I'm sure that was a factor as well, and serving as VP for 8 years... but if hillary wasnt in the picture and joe had a clear path to the nomination he would have 100% ran and dedicated it to the memory of his son, no question
I'm sure that was a factor as well, and serving as VP for 8 years... but if hillary wasnt in the picture and joe had a clear path to the nomination he would have 100% ran and dedicated it to the memory of his son, no question
ok!
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Biden is your next potus if he runs, which I assume he is
he has the Obamas in his back pocket, which is gold in the democratic primary.... that's why he didn't run in 2016 so Hillary would have them in her corner on the campaign trail, as they would have had to support Joe in the primary
This goes against everything Biden has said about why he didn't run...
Source for that?
Dont need a source... they cleared the way for Hillary... if he is in the primary Obama couldn't support the chisen one, Hillary
Seems obvious to me... and of course he would bever never publicly state that
Well, his son had just died of brain cancer. There's that.
It doesn't get anymore cynical than believing that someone would use his son's brain cancer death to his political advantage, either for or against deciding to run.
It doesn't get anymore cynical than believing that someone would use his son's brain cancer death to his political advantage, either for or against deciding to run.
That's a doozy.
I don't disagree, but I also don't believe that's what happened here. It wasn't about any sort of political advantage, but it may have been about saving face. The party machine had chosen its champion in Clinton. Beau's tragic death provided an excuse for Biden not jumping into the race when many of his likely supporters had already decided on someone else. That, along with the very real and legitimate grief he felt at the death of his son, likey contributed to his decision.
It doesn't get anymore cynical than believing that someone would use his son's brain cancer death to his political advantage, either for or against deciding to run.
That's a doozy.
I don't find it a doozy to question politicians' authenticity by default these days, I find that pragmatic. I also have little doubt in my mind that a good campaign manager would certainly talk to Biden about leveraging that tragedy "for the good of the country".
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Personally I cannot wait to see Sanders huffing and puffing and Biden rolling his eyes at him over and over while Beto is air drumming in the background to a song that Warren will probably take offense to since it could be seen as mocking her Native American heritage
Personally I cannot wait to see Sanders huffing and puffing and Biden rolling his eyes at him over and over while Beto is air drumming in the background to a song that Warren will probably take offense to since it could be seen as mocking her Native American heritage
Well, you still vote for Ted Cruz so...
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Personally I cannot wait to see Sanders huffing and puffing and Biden rolling his eyes at him over and over while Beto is air drumming in the background to a song that Warren will probably take offense to since it could be seen as mocking her Native American heritage
Well, you still vote for Ted Cruz so...
Over Beto, you betcha! I’d vote for Beto for Presidento though
Personally I cannot wait to see Sanders huffing and puffing and Biden rolling his eyes at him over and over while Beto is air drumming in the background to a song that Warren will probably take offense to since it could be seen as mocking her Native American heritage
That was pretty funny lol
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Personally I cannot wait to see Sanders huffing and puffing and Biden rolling his eyes at him over and over while Beto is air drumming in the background to a song that Warren will probably take offense to since it could be seen as mocking her Native American heritage
One funny post there, PJP!
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I guess that is also quite telling of this capitalistic success.
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hehe.
i found this interesting.
Some pretty cool pictures in here. The one from Madison, Wisconsin July 2015 really stood out to me.
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Do as I say, not as I do should be every politician's motto...
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Biden is your next potus if he runs, which I assume he is
he has the Obamas in his back pocket, which is gold in the democratic primary.... that's why he didn't run in 2016 so Hillary would have them in her corner on the campaign trail, as they would have had to support Joe in the primary
Source for that?
Seems obvious to me... and of course he would bever never publicly state that
It doesn't get anymore cynical than believing that someone would use his son's brain cancer death to his political advantage, either for or against deciding to run.
That's a doozy.
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