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Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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I deleted blackmail and then put it back in. There is not much difference between “give me money or I post this picture” and “you need jobs so pay up or else”.cincybearcat said:
No different then giving incentives on taxes for people to move into formerly desolate parts of a city. No different really than a store having a sale to get you to shop there.bootlegger10 said:
Or it is legal bribery. Legalized blackmail. We get it, but don’t have to like it.cincybearcat said:
Well no actually, they’ll just go to another location. It’s competitive to attract jobs.Halifax2TheMax said:They can go to a bank and Wall Street for their “loan” if they’re too cheap to pay for it themselves. It’s fucking obscene and immoral.
Blackmail is a really weird choice of words there. I can see how you might say bribery.
You can’t feel bad for Bezos being blackmailed by the Enquirer when his company just played 20 cities that wanted jobs against each other to get the most money from them.0 -
There’s 7.1 million or 25K unemployed in NYC? Not getting your answer. Are there that many $125K+ software engineers out of work? Fire up the USB1 visa machine. Do you like Indian food?cincybearcat said:
That’s why amazon wanted to be in NY and were going to pay to pay an average of $150,000 salary.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh, and there’s currently 7.1 million job openings in the US. Where are these 25k employees coming from to move to a metro area with one of the highest costs of living?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.0 -
That's an average though the 25k workers with that salary? I'm sure there are others making a bunch more than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
There’s 7.1 million or 25K unemployed in NYC? Not getting your answer. Are there that many $125K+ software engineers out of work? Fire up the USB1 visa machine. Do you like Indian food?cincybearcat said:
That’s why amazon wanted to be in NY and were going to pay to pay an average of $150,000 salary.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh, and there’s currently 7.1 million job openings in the US. Where are these 25k employees coming from to move to a metro area with one of the highest costs of living?0 -
I mean they were picking places people in those careers want to live. Part of the incentive. Better than West Virginia.Halifax2TheMax said:
There’s 7.1 million or 25K unemployed in NYC? Not getting your answer. Are there that many $125K+ software engineers out of work? Fire up the USB1 visa machine. Do you like Indian food?cincybearcat said:
That’s why amazon wanted to be in NY and were going to pay to pay an average of $150,000 salary.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh, and there’s currently 7.1 million job openings in the US. Where are these 25k employees coming from to move to a metro area with one of the highest costs of living?
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“They don’t.” Full stop.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Sounds Team Trump Treasonian, like declaring an emergency to fully fund the stupid wall. “I don’t really need to do this but........” people are fed up with the greed and disparity of wealth.Halifax2TheMax said:
“They don’t.” Full stop.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Well how else do you eliminate poverty other than jobs? I think your assumption is that it's displacement rather than upward mobility. I don't think there's one answer to that.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.0 -
Education and equal opportunity.mrussel1 said:
Well how else do you eliminate poverty other than jobs? I think your assumption is that it's displacement rather than upward mobility. I don't think there's one answer to that.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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You know that 14 page New Green Deal that Ocasio would like to do? You need people making money and pay taxes to fund it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sounds Team Trump Treasonian, like declaring an emergency to fully fund the stupid wall. “I don’t really need to do this but........” people are fed up with the greed and disparity of wealth.Halifax2TheMax said:
“They don’t.” Full stop.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.
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UBImrussel1 said:
Well how else do you eliminate poverty other than jobs? I think your assumption is that it's displacement rather than upward mobility. I don't think there's one answer to that.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.
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People already work and pay taxes. It’s about priorities and continuing down the CO2 path we’re on, makes Bezos and Amazon in LIC underwater by 2050. Priorities.tempo_n_groove said:
You know that 14 page New Green Deal that Ocasio would like to do? You need people making money and pay taxes to fund it.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sounds Team Trump Treasonian, like declaring an emergency to fully fund the stupid wall. “I don’t really need to do this but........” people are fed up with the greed and disparity of wealth.Halifax2TheMax said:
“They don’t.” Full stop.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.
2 way street.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Andrew Yang fan?CM189191 said:
UBImrussel1 said:
Well how else do you eliminate poverty other than jobs? I think your assumption is that it's displacement rather than upward mobility. I don't think there's one answer to that.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.
Universal Basic Income
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/future-perfect/2019/2/13/18220838/universal-basic-income-ubi-nber-studyCM189191 said:
UBImrussel1 said:
Well how else do you eliminate poverty other than jobs? I think your assumption is that it's displacement rather than upward mobility. I don't think there's one answer to that.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.
Universal Basic Income
That is how you eliminate poverty
This has some some very interesting points.Post edited by cincybearcat onhippiemom = goodness0 -
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What facts? I’m not exactly sure what you are saying matters at all to the discussion.Halifax2TheMax said:Seems the HQ was supposed to be in AOC’s district. Facts matter. Also seems Bezos didn’t return calls by DeBlasio and Coumo. Seems musky.
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Sure agreed. And those things are needed to land a job... 25k of which just left town.Halifax2TheMax said:
Education and equal opportunity.mrussel1 said:
Well how else do you eliminate poverty other than jobs? I think your assumption is that it's displacement rather than upward mobility. I don't think there's one answer to that.tempo_n_groove said:
They don't but that is how business is done. That is also why other companies move HQ's to Ireland where they get a tax cut for doing business there.Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone want to explain why a company and individual that are worth billions and pay an effective 3% federal corporate tax rate need $1.5 billion in taxpayer subsidies to create jobs and open a headquarters?
So I did do the math with the taxes and after 5 years of construction tax revenue would be around $44,100,000. That's an average of 1000 construction workers a year making 100k.
When the place is built and there is 25,000 people making on average 150K a year, that would be $1,653,750,000 in taxes in 5 years.
That is a ton of money that comes in every single year to the city.
What this does do is kill any lower income areas in a 25 mile radius of LIC which is already too high in my opinion. If anyone has lived in Seattle or Austin and saw those cities explode this would be the same thing only worse.0 -
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What facts? I’m not exactly sure what you are saying matters at all to the discussion.Halifax2TheMax said:Seems the HQ was supposed to be in AOC’s district. Facts matter. Also seems Bezos didn’t return calls by DeBlasio and Coumo. Seems musky.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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So what facts are you talking about?Halifax2TheMax said:
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What facts? I’m not exactly sure what you are saying matters at all to the discussion.Halifax2TheMax said:Seems the HQ was supposed to be in AOC’s district. Facts matter. Also seems Bezos didn’t return calls by DeBlasio and Coumo. Seems musky.hippiemom = goodness0
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