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    OnWis97 said:
    Let's hope for another 6 years of Trump.  I wanna see how long the last 8-10 people post in the Trump arguing the same points day in, day out last here...maybe in a few years, we will be down to 1 person posting.  The Trump presidency is comedic gold...
    Six?  I'd take that if offered.  Try 22.  We still have Don, Jr. and Ivanka.  Maybe 30 years, but Eric has to grow his twitter troll game.
    I hope we don't end up in some sort of 1984 situation 30 years from now where we're thinking "How exactly did Empress Ivanka come into power anyway? I don't remember. Didn't it have something to do with her father?" 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    THIS doesn't surprise me one effking bit.

    President Trump installed a room-sized golf simulator at White House

    https://wapo.st/2N2m8I6?tid=ss_tw&
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    Tiki said:
    THIS doesn't surprise me one effking bit.

    President Trump installed a room-sized golf simulator at White House

    https://wapo.st/2N2m8I6?tid=ss_tw&
    It’s an Executive Time Facilitator.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    big screen masturbator

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    If I was Prez I'd have a full-size hockey rink installed...

    Have Ovechkin, Crosby and friends over a game of hockey.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,087
    Tiki said:
    THIS doesn't surprise me one effking bit.

    President Trump installed a room-sized golf simulator at White House

    https://wapo.st/2N2m8I6?tid=ss_tw&
    If he used it to de-stress and didn't go golfing all the time and watch all that TV, I'd be all for it.  Who cares at that point.  
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,524
    edited February 2019
    Tiki said:
    THIS doesn't surprise me one effking bit.

    President Trump installed a room-sized golf simulator at White House

    https://wapo.st/2N2m8I6?tid=ss_tw&
    If he used it to de-stress and didn't go golfing all the time and watch all that TV, I'd be all for it.  Who cares at that point.  
    I say the less work he does as POTUS the better. People should work to get more distractions for him in the WH. Pay the guy $400K to literally do nothing but fuck around and eat and watch TV all day. That would have by far the best outcome.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,954
    His tweets about Obama golfing come to mind....and his tweets about how he wouldn't have time to golf if he were Pres...because of Executive Time you know?
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    perhaps I think the point being missed is that no one cares how it’s paid for.  My friends who all voted for him thought is was awesome that he said that but never assumed it would happen. Maybe some did?  Americans just want a wall and/or protection.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,524
    ^^^ Ridiculous, lol.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    perhaps I think the point being missed is that no one cares how it’s paid for.  My friends who all voted for him thought is was awesome that he said that but never assumed it would happen. Maybe some did?  Americans just want a wall and/or protection.

    People should care how it's paid for, since it's a hell of a lot of money that will necessarily come from the budget for something else. 

    And that's completely aside from the sheer idiocy of the initial promise.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    PJ_Soul said:
    Tiki said:
    THIS doesn't surprise me one effking bit.

    President Trump installed a room-sized golf simulator at White House

    https://wapo.st/2N2m8I6?tid=ss_tw&
    If he used it to de-stress and didn't go golfing all the time and watch all that TV, I'd be all for it.  Who cares at that point.  
    I say the less work he does as POTUS the better. People should work to get more distractions for him in the WH. Pay the guy $400K to literally do nothing but fuck around and eat and watch TV all day. That would have by far the best outcome.
    Amen
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!

    perhaps I think the point being missed is that no one cares how it’s paid for.  My friends who all voted for him thought is was awesome that he said that but never assumed it would happen. Maybe some did?  Americans just want a wall and/or protection.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    lol yet you understand everything the baffoon says ? lol 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity...

    In the Trump universe, this means saying the same thing over and over to where it becomes common belief, even if not rooted in truth.  So what I mean is that once he understood he was not going to get money to "build the wall", just this past week, he started saying "finish the wall, not build it because you all know we've already started building it".  This is how he will declare victory to his supporters.  
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    lol yet you understand everything the baffoon says ? lol 
    Hell no I stopped paying attention to his mouth feces a few years ago! I hear about it through people’s reactions 
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity...

    In the Trump universe, this means saying the same thing over and over to where it becomes common belief, even if not rooted in truth.  So what I mean is that once he understood he was not going to get money to "build the wall", just this past week, he started saying "finish the wall, not build it because you all know we've already started building it".  This is how he will declare victory to his supporters.  
    Right on, thanks for the good explanation! That totally could be possible, wouldn’t shock me.  To me he doesn’t need to declare victory, he already did so by getting elected.  As far as the wall, I think he’ll sign the bill to not shutdown the govt but then declare an emergency anyway to get the money.  It’ll go through the courts of course, but I don’t think he cares, he knows he’ll get so props from his base by declaring the emergency he prob figures it’s worth it.  I heard today that his approval numbers are now the highest they’ve ever been?! Not surprised again, when he gets people fired up with his rallies it only helps him, and the more resistance he gets, it seems to end up helping repubs somehow.
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    perhaps I think the point being missed is that no one cares how it’s paid for.  My friends who all voted for him thought is was awesome that he said that but never assumed it would happen. Maybe some did?  Americans just want a wall and/or protection.
    Trojans offer protection. Maybe the money will come out of the VA? Or Head Start? Or oil and gas subsidies? Who cares?
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    perhaps I think the point being missed is that no one cares how it’s paid for.  My friends who all voted for him thought is was awesome that he said that but never assumed it would happen. Maybe some did?  Americans just want a wall and/or protection.
    Trojans offer protection. Maybe the money will come out of the VA? Or Head Start? Or oil and gas subsidies? Who cares?
    Canada isn’t going to pay for it, so why do you care?
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    perhaps I think the point being missed is that no one cares how it’s paid for.  My friends who all voted for him thought is was awesome that he said that but never assumed it would happen. Maybe some did?  Americans just want a wall and/or protection.
    Trojans offer protection. Maybe the money will come out of the VA? Or Head Start? Or oil and gas subsidies? Who cares?
    Canada isn’t going to pay for it, so why do you care?
    Because what happens south of the border matters. Plus, Team Trump Treason might ratchet up the tariffs to pay for it. But he really should build a wall around Arkansas as a pilot feasibility study first.
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    perhaps I think the point being missed is that no one cares how it’s paid for.  My friends who all voted for him thought is was awesome that he said that but never assumed it would happen. Maybe some did?  Americans just want a wall and/or protection.
    Trojans offer protection. Maybe the money will come out of the VA? Or Head Start? Or oil and gas subsidies? Who cares?
    Canada isn’t going to pay for it, so why do you care?
    Because what happens south of the border matters. Plus, Team Trump Treason might ratchet up the tariffs to pay for it. But he really should build a wall around Arkansas as a pilot feasibility study first.
    Agreed, Arkansas smells like pig shit, you ever been? It’s a shame because it’s a gorgeous state, too.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity...

    In the Trump universe, this means saying the same thing over and over to where it becomes common belief, even if not rooted in truth.  So what I mean is that once he understood he was not going to get money to "build the wall", just this past week, he started saying "finish the wall, not build it because you all know we've already started building it".  This is how he will declare victory to his supporters.  
    Right on, thanks for the good explanation! That totally could be possible, wouldn’t shock me.  To me he doesn’t need to declare victory, he already did so by getting elected.  As far as the wall, I think he’ll sign the bill to not shutdown the govt but then declare an emergency anyway to get the money.  It’ll go through the courts of course, but I don’t think he cares, he knows he’ll get so props from his base by declaring the emergency he prob figures it’s worth it.  I heard today that his approval numbers are now the highest they’ve ever been?! Not surprised again, when he gets people fired up with his rallies it only helps him, and the more resistance he gets, it seems to end up helping repubs somehow.
    No, the approval numbers are not the highest they've ever been. Who was it that said that - Trump? The numbers fell a lot during the shutdown and rose a few points after he agreed to reopen the government, but still far from his highest ratings. Approval ranging from about 40.5 - 44%, disapproval about 55%.
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,143
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity...

    In the Trump universe, this means saying the same thing over and over to where it becomes common belief, even if not rooted in truth.  So what I mean is that once he understood he was not going to get money to "build the wall", just this past week, he started saying "finish the wall, not build it because you all know we've already started building it".  This is how he will declare victory to his supporters.  
    Right on, thanks for the good explanation! That totally could be possible, wouldn’t shock me.  To me he doesn’t need to declare victory, he already did so by getting elected.  As far as the wall, I think he’ll sign the bill to not shutdown the govt but then declare an emergency anyway to get the money.  It’ll go through the courts of course, but I don’t think he cares, he knows he’ll get so props from his base by declaring the emergency he prob figures it’s worth it.  I heard today that his approval numbers are now the highest they’ve ever been?! Not surprised again, when he gets people fired up with his rallies it only helps him, and the more resistance he gets, it seems to end up helping repubs somehow.
    No, the approval numbers are not the highest they've ever been. Who was it that said that - Trump? The numbers fell a lot during the shutdown and rose a few points after he agreed to reopen the government, but still far from his highest ratings. Approval ranging from about 40.5 - 44%, disapproval about 55%.
    Weird, I thought it was at 52. You’re prob right- I said it with a ? becuse I only heard the local rock radio morning people talking about it- because when I search it it’s sites like Rush, Breitbart, Newsmax, etc.  Here’s the first one

    https://mobile.wnd.com/2019/02/trump-approval-hits-52-critics-beside-themselves/


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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity...

    In the Trump universe, this means saying the same thing over and over to where it becomes common belief, even if not rooted in truth.  So what I mean is that once he understood he was not going to get money to "build the wall", just this past week, he started saying "finish the wall, not build it because you all know we've already started building it".  This is how he will declare victory to his supporters.  
    Right on, thanks for the good explanation! That totally could be possible, wouldn’t shock me.  To me he doesn’t need to declare victory, he already did so by getting elected.  As far as the wall, I think he’ll sign the bill to not shutdown the govt but then declare an emergency anyway to get the money.  It’ll go through the courts of course, but I don’t think he cares, he knows he’ll get so props from his base by declaring the emergency he prob figures it’s worth it.  I heard today that his approval numbers are now the highest they’ve ever been?! Not surprised again, when he gets people fired up with his rallies it only helps him, and the more resistance he gets, it seems to end up helping repubs somehow.
    No, the approval numbers are not the highest they've ever been. Who was it that said that - Trump? The numbers fell a lot during the shutdown and rose a few points after he agreed to reopen the government, but still far from his highest ratings. Approval ranging from about 40.5 - 44%, disapproval about 55%.
    Weird, I thought it was at 52. You’re prob right- I said it with a ? becuse I only heard the local rock radio morning people talking about it- because when I search it it’s sites like Rush, Breitbart, Newsmax, etc.  Here’s the first one

    https://mobile.wnd.com/2019/02/trump-approval-hits-52-critics-beside-themselves/



    Ha ha! Yes, if you ask Rush Limbaugh, you certainly get a different version.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    So he is now talking as if some of the wall has been built.  Did I miss something or his he just feeding a pile of shit to a base that will eat it up?
    No, George W’s and Obama’s admins  built 600 miles or so of fencing/wall. I assume that’s what he’s talking about.  Under trump they’ve built some/added to it already also, so therefore the “finish the wall” statements.
    It's gaslighting so he can declare victory.  You know this. 
    I don’t even know what that means, man!
    Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity...

    In the Trump universe, this means saying the same thing over and over to where it becomes common belief, even if not rooted in truth.  So what I mean is that once he understood he was not going to get money to "build the wall", just this past week, he started saying "finish the wall, not build it because you all know we've already started building it".  This is how he will declare victory to his supporters.  
    Right on, thanks for the good explanation! That totally could be possible, wouldn’t shock me.  To me he doesn’t need to declare victory, he already did so by getting elected.  As far as the wall, I think he’ll sign the bill to not shutdown the govt but then declare an emergency anyway to get the money.  It’ll go through the courts of course, but I don’t think he cares, he knows he’ll get so props from his base by declaring the emergency he prob figures it’s worth it.  I heard today that his approval numbers are now the highest they’ve ever been?! Not surprised again, when he gets people fired up with his rallies it only helps him, and the more resistance he gets, it seems to end up helping repubs somehow.
    No, the approval numbers are not the highest they've ever been. Who was it that said that - Trump? The numbers fell a lot during the shutdown and rose a few points after he agreed to reopen the government, but still far from his highest ratings. Approval ranging from about 40.5 - 44%, disapproval about 55%.
    Weird, I thought it was at 52. You’re prob right- I said it with a ? becuse I only heard the local rock radio morning people talking about it- because when I search it it’s sites like Rush, Breitbart, Newsmax, etc.  Here’s the first one

    https://mobile.wnd.com/2019/02/trump-approval-hits-52-critics-beside-themselves/


    Rasmussen is usually 5 points more generous to Republicans than any other poll, due to their sampling.  He definitely got a bump from the state of the union, which is common.  He'll definitely do something dumb to tear that back down soon enough though.  Here's a good summary of polls.  https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    I think you're right on declaring the emergency.  I felt that was the only way out from the beginning for him.  It will be stopped by the courts, based on on precedent and the fact that Congress is responsible for appropriating.  It really is a violation of the separation clauses.  But I don't think he cares if it gets caught up in court or if the wall ever is actually built. 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    He just needs to look like a fighter... he doesn't believe in a fucking wall, the idea was brought to him before the primaries as a way to separate himself from the others, it got good traction on twitter, and they ran with it 

    Anybody that believes anything he says is a fucking sucker... 
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