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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    So are all of the Democrats going to love and celebrate the Lincoln Project so much in 2024 when they are back to working for their real bosses in the Republican Party?
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    static111 said:
    So are all of the Democrats going to love and celebrate the Lincoln Project so much in 2024 when they are back to working for their real bosses in the Republican Party?
    As a defacto Democrat* I appreciate the effort.  To those on the right that understand what a danger Donald Trump and the whole culture of Trumpism is, I'd love to have an agreement to oust him and then we'll get back to head-butting "issues" later.  I'm not a conservative, but I have some understanding of where conservative principals come from (and even could deal with, say, Eisenhowerian conservatives, if they still exist).  Was "normal" great?  Maybe not but we absolutely have to get back there before we can truly make America great again.  So, I don't care how I'll feel about them in a few years...I appreciate what they are doing now.

    *I don't love the party and am not "officially" a Dem, but it's how I almost always vote.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    So are all of the Democrats going to love and celebrate the Lincoln Project so much in 2024 when they are back to working for their real bosses in the Republican Party?
    As a defacto Democrat* I appreciate the effort.  To those on the right that understand what a danger Donald Trump and the whole culture of Trumpism is, I'd love to have an agreement to oust him and then we'll get back to head-butting "issues" later.  I'm not a conservative, but I have some understanding of where conservative principals come from (and even could deal with, say, Eisenhowerian conservatives, if they still exist).  Was "normal" great?  Maybe not but we absolutely have to get back there before we can truly make America great again.  So, I don't care how I'll feel about them in a few years...I appreciate what they are doing now.

    *I don't love the party and am not "officially" a Dem, but it's how I almost always vote.
    Same here.  I can appreciate real principled differences and I'm a big supporter of compromise as part of that process.  At the end of the day I probably disagree with 70% of the Lincoln Project's political beliefs.  But the one that unites us is the most important today.  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy in action. Can't wait for the Team Trump Treason tweet tornado.

    WASHINGTON

    Sen. Lindsey Graham has publicly opposed President Donald Trump five times in the past few weeks — including a new rebuke Monday — an unusual torrent of dissent from one of the president’s top allies in Washington just months before the South Carolina Republican faces a tough reelection challenge.

    Since June 20, Graham has blocked a Trump U.S. attorney nominee, criticized Trump’s decision to put a temporary freeze on visas for foreign workers, split with the president about face masks during the coronavirus pandemic and pressed the administration for information about alleged Russian bounties on American soldiers.

    Monday, Graham was at odds with Trump after the president alleged in a Twitter post that an apparent noose found last month in the Talladega Superspeedway garage of Bubba Wallace, NASCAR’s only Black full-time driver, was a “HOAX,” and called on Wallace to apologize to his NASCAR colleagues.

    Graham, speaking to Fox News Radio, said Wallace being upset about the noose “made perfect sense to me.”

    “I don’t think Bubba Wallace has anything to apologize for,” Graham said, adding that “you saw the best in NASCAR. When there was a chance that it was a threat against Bubba Wallace, [the drivers] all rallied to Bubba’s side. I would be looking to celebrate that kind of attitude more than being worried about it being a hoax.”

    The FBI investigated the incident last month, concluding that the noose had been in the garage since last year and, accordingly, Wallace was not the victim of a hate crime.

    Graham also addressed NASCAR’s recent decision to ban the Confederate flag at its events, saying that “if you’re in business, the Confederate flag is not a good way to grow your business.”

    The senator has been a strong ally and personal friend of Trump, defending the president in several high-profile moments over the last four years.

    Graham was one of the most outspoken Senate supporters of Brett Kavanaugh, who was nominated to the Supreme Court by Trump, during hearings that featured sexual assault allegations against the nominee. Graham declared during the process that Kavanaugh “has nothing to apologize for.” The senator also defended Trump amid impeachment hearings in the House, calling the process “a bunch of BS.”

    The two golfed together at the Trump National Golf Club in Potomac Falls, Virginia, last month.

    The White House declined to comment on Graham’s recent opposition to the president. Kevin Bishop, Graham’s communications director, told The State that the senator “agrees with President Trump a large percentage of the time, but when he doesn’t he has not been shy about speaking out.”

    Back home, Graham is opposed by a well-funded challenger: Jaime Harrison, a former South Carolina Democratic Party chairman.

    Harrison raised $7.4 million in the first three months of 2020, nearly $2 million more than the $5.7 Graham collected, though as of May 20, Graham’s campaign maintained a significant cash on hand advantage with nearly $14 million available, Federal Election Commission data show. Filings for Harrison’s campaign show it had $6.7 million in cash on hand on May 20.

    Harrison has taken aim at Graham on criminal justice reform legislation and the coronavirus pandemic.

    Harrison said Senate Republicans’ police reform bill, which Graham backed, wouldn’t heal “a community crying out in pain.” The South Carolina Democrat also unleashed his first attack ad of the general election campaign last week, which charges that “Lindsey’s playing Washington games while we need to solve South Carolina problems” related to the pandemic.

    Trump has similarly been under fire from Congressional Democrats for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and his response to protests calling for nationwide police reforms.

    Graham’s recent rebuffs of Trump could be an attempt to “have some limited amount of distance from the president” in order to maintain support from groups — like suburban voters — who have “soured” on Trump, according to Kyle Kondik, managing editor of the nonpartisan political newsletter Sabato’s Crystal Ball.

    Kondik was quick to point out, though, that Graham’s breaks with Trump are rooted in long-standing beliefs of the senator.

    The Republican senator’s opposition to Trump in recent weeks has ranged from a simple difference of opinion to a full rebuke of Trump and his administration.

    First, Graham, who serves as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he would honor committee precedent that effectively sinks Trump’s nominee to replace Geoffrey Berman as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

    Berman’s ousting was considered controversial by Democratic lawmakers as he oversaw several high-profile investigations into Trump’s campaign and the president’s former associates.

    Attorney General William Barr announced late on June 19 that Berman was stepping down. Berman responded, saying “I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning.” The next day, Trump fired Berman, though there was some uncertainty over whether this action was legal. Berman agreed to accept the firing after Barr confirmed Berman’s deputy would take over as U.S. attorney in an acting capacity.

    “It has always been the policy of the Judiciary Committee to receive blue slips from the home state senators before proceeding to the nomination,” Graham said in a statement. “As chairman, I have honored that policy and will continue to do so.” Blue slips allow senators to block judicial appointees in their home states.

    Two days later, Graham rebuked Trump again, this time over the president’s executive order to temporarily halt new work visas for foreign workers seeking employment in the United States.

    “Those who believe legal immigration, particularly work visas, are harmful to the American worker do not understand the American economy,” Graham tweeted after Trump gave the order, adding that he fears Trump’s decision “to temporarily shut down these programs will create a drag on our economic recovery.”

    In 2016, South Carolina companies requested 6,932 H-1B-supported positions. New H-1B visas have been halted through the end of the year under Trump’s order. South Carolina employers, like Graham, decried Trump’s decision, saying it will hurt their ability to recruit and retain talent.

    In another split with the president, Graham said Americans should be wearing face masks, telling CNN that the president’s “got his own view of whether or not he should wear a mask but my advice to people is if you’re around strangers, try to stay six feet away, wear a mask.”

    The president has resisted wearing a mask in public throughout the COVID-19 pandemic and has made a point to avoid wearing a mask in front of journalists. “I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it,” he said in reference to the mask he removed before touring a Ford plant in Michigan in May.

    Trump seemingly reversed course last week, saying that he would have “no problem” being seen wearing a mask. However, the president has yet to do so publicly.

    Graham also challenged the Trump administration to address a report that the president was briefed on, but did not respond to, intelligence that bounties were being placed on American troops in Afghanistan by Russian military intelligence.

    “I expect the Trump administration to take such allegations seriously and inform Congress immediately as to the reliability of these news reports,” Graham tweeted last weekend, the day before he golfed with Trump.

    Graham said he was briefed on the intelligence last week and tweeted that he “completely understand[s] why the President was not briefed” about the matter.

    The White House has maintained that the president was not briefed on the matter and said the information did not reach the president because it was not verified.

    Graham did extend an invitation to Democrats to work with him to be tougher on “Putin’s Russia,” with which he has “major issues.” Trump has been criticized for being too friendly with the Russian leader since taking office. House Democrats, who were briefed by the White House on the issue early last week, criticized Trump’s actions.

    In South Carolina, two veteran state Republicans were quick to dismiss the idea that Graham’s opposition to Trump in recent weeks is politically motivated.

    Katon Dawson, former state GOP chairman, told The State that Graham’s actions were just a continuation of the lawmaker’s willingness to speak his mind.

    “Lindsey [Graham] has a history of being extremely independent and a maverick,” Dawson said, adding that South Carolina’s senior senator is “willing to take the pounding for standing up for what he believes in.”

    Dawson said he’s not surprised Graham “is breaking with the president.”

    “I don’t think you’re looking at Graham trying to break because it scores political points,” he said, pointing out that both Graham and Trump are popular in South Carolina.

    David Woodard, a now-retired Clemson University political science professor who ran Graham’s early congressional campaigns, agreed with Dawson, telling The State in a phone interview that the senator “has always had that kind of independent streak about him.”

    “He’s always his own man,” Woodard said in reference to Graham. “He’s not afraid to dress down the president.”

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,293
    static111 said:
    So are all of the Democrats going to love and celebrate the Lincoln Project so much in 2024 when they are back to working for their real bosses in the Republican Party?
    I am an independent who says "WHO THE FUCK CARES?" It is currently 2020 and a second administration of Trump would be catastrophic. Just enjoy the help. Democrats need all they can get.

    Jeez. 
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,625
    Pretty much how I feel.  ^^^^

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    static111 said:
    So are all of the Democrats going to love and celebrate the Lincoln Project so much in 2024 when they are back to working for their real bosses in the Republican Party?
    When the repub nominee is Tom “I’m a Warrior, Hear Me Roar” Cotton, sure. Team Trump Treason has turned the repub party into a white nationalist party. It won’t be long before there’s cross burnings at their rallies or convention.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Right now it's a coalition with a common cause. When the mission is accomplished, we'll see where everyone stands. I just want the country to be safe and living up to the ideals in our Constitution. We still actually have one, although it's in serious danger. Stay safe all.

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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Not surprised he cheated.



    From NYTimes:
    Here are some of the highlights from her manuscript:

    Cheating on a College Entrance Test
    As a high school student in Queens, Ms. Trump writes, Donald Trump paid someone to take a precollegiate test, the SAT, on his behalf. The high score the proxy earned for him, Ms. Trump adds, helped the young Mr. Trump to later gain admittance as an undergraduate to the University of Pennsylvania’s prestigious Wharton business school.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,543
    I am really looking forward to reading this book, lol.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,293
    PJ_Soul said:
    I am really looking forward to reading this book, lol.
    Yeah I'll be getting this one too. 
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:
    I am really looking forward to reading this book, lol.
    Yeah I'll be getting this one too. 
    Me, too. Just got the Bolton book. This one will be next up.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    i heard someone talking about how severe childhood trauma has caused him to be the way he is. he needed help and never got it. now he is the world's problem. he is literally giving people PTSD.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    and no, i do not feel sorry for him. he has caused enough harm and enough suffering that i will never ever feel an ounce of sympathy for him.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,550
    and no, i do not feel sorry for him. he has caused enough harm and enough suffering that i will never ever feel an ounce of sympathy for him.
    How can anyone have sympathy for a narcissistic racist xenophobe who courts the votes of racist white nationalists 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    and no, i do not feel sorry for him. he has caused enough harm and enough suffering that i will never ever feel an ounce of sympathy for him.
    How can anyone have sympathy for a narcissistic racist xenophobe who courts the votes of racist white nationalists 
    i suppose it is easy if one is a racist white nationalist, haha.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,550
    and no, i do not feel sorry for him. he has caused enough harm and enough suffering that i will never ever feel an ounce of sympathy for him.
    How can anyone have sympathy for a narcissistic racist xenophobe who courts the votes of racist white nationalists 
    i suppose it is easy if one is a racist white nationalist, haha.
    Here are some...


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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    He's literally coming for your children now, like he would know whats "good" for them.

    Totally normal.

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    I know better than to click links from certain folks.
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    and no, i do not feel sorry for him. he has caused enough harm and enough suffering that i will never ever feel an ounce of sympathy for him.
    How can anyone have sympathy for a narcissistic racist xenophobe who courts the votes of racist white nationalists 
    i suppose it is easy if one is a racist white nationalist, haha.
    Here are some...


    That's funny because the Dems founded the KKK and Lincoln (a republican) freed the slaves..../sarcasm
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    The POS that is Team trump Treason is trying to dismantle everything that this Nation stands for. He's a fucking racist, white nationalist failure and he needs to go. Yea, but keep attending those Prager U classes, eh?


    On Monday, in a surprising development, a division of Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced that it will not permit international students on F-1 visas to take a full online course load this fall while studying in the United States. As I wrote yesterday, this ruling has potentially serious implications for MIT’s international students and those enrolled at institutions across the country.

    This morning, in response, MIT and Harvard jointly filed suit against ICE and the US Department of Homeland Security in federal court in Massachusetts. In the lawsuit, we ask the court to prevent ICE and DHS from enforcing the new guidance and to declare it unlawful.

    The announcement disrupts our international students’ lives and jeopardizes their academic and research pursuits. ICE is unable to offer the most basic answers about how its policy will be interpreted or implemented. And the guidance comes after many US colleges and universities either released or are readying their final decisions for the fall – decisions designed to advance their educational mission and protect the health and safety of their communities.

    Our international students now have many questions – about their visas, their health, their families and their ability to continue working toward an MIT degree. Unspoken, but unmistakable, is one more question: Am I welcome?
    At MIT, the answer, unequivocally, is yes.

    MIT’s strength is its people – no matter where they come from. I know firsthand the anxiety of arriving in this country as a student, excited to advance my education, but separated from my family by thousands of miles. I also know that welcoming the world’s brightest, most talented and motivated students is an essential American strength.

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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    edited July 2020
    RYME said:
    This one makes me laugh every time I hear it. It's so full of fear mongering and hate that my reaction to the stupid thing is to laugh.

    it's such a contrast to the Joe Biden fundraising letter I received today. It's not a new one; it's an "I Know Joe" story about a rabbi being shocked to see VPJoe at a small funeral service in Delaware for a Jewish woman who had donated $18 to Joe for every Senate election every time Joe ran. There are news articles about the story.

    I'd absolutely have a beer with Joe...and he absolutely has my vote. :)

    https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jta/joe-biden-fundraising-letter-features-rabbi-s-story-about-senator/article_5f9b102f-ea0f-5a0a-87ba-a29ee184aef9.html


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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    RYME said:
    So let me think about this for a minute..

    1. Trump is going to protect us tomorrow from something (left wing mobs) that he can't protect us from today?  That doesn't seem to be a vote in his favor.
    2. No states or municipalities have actually abolished the police... so the 'threat' doesn't seem to be materializing.
    3. Trump has not protected us from China and the virus.

    So I should vote for Trump based on something that he says he will do, but hasn't been able to do yet?  And I should vote for Trump because he can protect me, when he hasn't protected jack as it relates to...you know... the actual problem (Coronavirus)?

    Somehow this doesn't feel like a compelling argument.  I wonder why suburban voters are leaving him in droves. 
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    So let me think about this for a minute..

    1. Trump is going to protect us tomorrow from something (left wing mobs) that he can't protect us from today?  That doesn't seem to be a vote in his favor.
    2. No states or municipalities have actually abolished the police... so the 'threat' doesn't seem to be materializing.
    3. Trump has not protected us from China and the virus.

    So I should vote for Trump based on something that he says he will do, but hasn't been able to do yet?  And I should vote for Trump because he can protect me, when he hasn't protected jack as it relates to...you know... the actual problem (Coronavirus)?

    Somehow this doesn't feel like a compelling argument.  I wonder why suburban voters are leaving him in droves. 
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,827
    Hi! said:
    “We need to stop doing things that make god mad. “
    Kanye West

    lol



    Good advice, because when God is mad he tends to resort to genocide. 
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Hi! said:
    “We need to stop doing things that make god mad. “
    Kanye West

    lol



    Good advice, because when God is mad he tends to resort to genocide. 
    Hurricanes too.

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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    Hi! said:
    Hi! said:
    “We need to stop doing things that make god mad. “
    Kanye West

    lol



    Good advice, because when God is mad he tends to resort to genocide. 
    Hurricanes too.
    humans too...
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    RYME said:
    it would help immensely if you knew the actual meaning of defunding the police instead of peddling the idiotic fox news version of it. do some research. 
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