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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
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  • Great article. 

    I'm glad they know how many got caught crossing but forget to mention they have no idea how many got in that they don't have documentation on....
  • HAHAHAHA!!!  Hysterical, but again with giving up your DNA?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    PJ_Soul said:
    He doesn't need no engineers telling him about the wall he knows more than all the engineers combined lol 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    You know, the environmental impact study part of this never even entered my thinking until a few weeks ago. And it’s a very important point. 


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    You know, the environmental impact study part of this never even entered my thinking until a few weeks ago. And it’s a very important point. 


    I hadn't either. it's pretty damning on its own. it really should be damning enough to stop all discussion about it, even without all of the other negatives associated with this nonsense. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    You know, the environmental impact study part of this never even entered my thinking until a few weeks ago. And it’s a very important point. 


    It’s one of the most important points, but it won’t resonate with those who want to bring coal back. 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    Saudi sisters whose bodies were found bound together near Hudson River died by suicide
    Tala Farea, 16, and Rotana Farea, 23, had reportedly made statements they would harm themselves rather than return to Saudi Arabia.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/saudi-sisters-whose-bodies-were-found-bound-together-near-hudson-n961541
    on the day before the bodies were discovered, she received a call from an official at the Saudi Arabian Embassy, ordering the family to leave the U.S. because the daughters had applied for political asylum.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    Good question.  Neither do I.  On the service it seems absurd...but then again these kids don't have a true process.  Hmmm...
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    Really you can’t possibly see the other side of this one? 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    Really you can’t possibly see the other side of this one? 
    One side being that some college grads already have 100k+ in student loans ( I think the average is about 40k) and often take 20 years to pay off. Paying for illegal immigrants when our own citizens can't afford it doesn't make any sense to me.

  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    Really you can’t possibly see the other side of this one? 
    One side being that some college grads already have 100k+ in student loans ( I think the average is about 40k) and often take 20 years to pay off. Paying for illegal immigrants when our own citizens can't afford it doesn't make any sense to me.

    That’s my thinking too. No way I am for college aid for illegal immigrants. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    edited January 2019
    I don't think free/reduced/subsidized college education for illegal immigrants should even be on the table when the average citizen is in tens of thousands in debt, can't afford health care, goes into huge debt for our own school. Once all that is solved and we can live comfortable lives (comfortable being financial freedom and not the stress of paycheck to paycheck) then sure, discuss the possibility to helping others and pay for their education. But not before then.
    I'm not going to ask the family that is on welfare to pay for my kid to go to private school.
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
  • PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
    Perhaps you’d prefer “culture warrior?” Lol!
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
    Perhaps you’d prefer “culture warrior?” Lol!
    You can call them whatever you want....such a kidder, you.
    Calling them “culture warriors” and “terrorists” is equally idiotic in my opinion, though...
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    Really you can’t possibly see the other side of this one? 
    One side being that some college grads already have 100k+ in student loans ( I think the average is about 40k) and often take 20 years to pay off. Paying for illegal immigrants when our own citizens can't afford it doesn't make any sense to me.

    That’s my thinking too. No way I am for college aid for illegal immigrants. 
    I agree, totally bass ackwards.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
    Perhaps you’d prefer “culture warrior?” Lol!
    Surely you can’t agree with giving money to illegal immigrants before actual citizens?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
    Perhaps you’d prefer “culture warrior?” Lol!
    Surely you can’t agree with giving money to illegal immigrants before actual citizens?

    I can tell you I don't. Some investment needs to be paid before dividends are paid to them.

    Opportunity should be presented. Immigrants need to work. First generation immigrants need to accept (and be appreciative of) a modest lifestyle- hopefully paving the way for an easier time for the second and third generation.

    I speak to the efforts of my Ukrainian grandparents that uprooted from Kiev and immigrated to Saskatchewan. They weren't afforded much outside of opportunity. They had it rough. But they provided a wonderful opportunity for their children and subsequent generations that I know Baba was proud of. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
    Perhaps you’d prefer “culture warrior?” Lol!
    Surely you can’t agree with giving money to illegal immigrants before actual citizens?

    I can tell you I don't. Some investment needs to be paid before dividends are paid to them.

    Opportunity should be presented. Immigrants need to work. First generation immigrants need to accept (and be appreciative of) a modest lifestyle- hopefully paving the way for an easier time for the second and third generation.

    I speak to the efforts of my Ukrainian grandparents that uprooted from Kiev and immigrated to Saskatchewan. They weren't afforded much outside of opportunity. They had it rough. But they provided a wonderful opportunity for their children and subsequent generations that I know Baba was proud of. 
    Fellow Uke!
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    edited January 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
    Perhaps you’d prefer “culture warrior?” Lol!
    Surely you can’t agree with giving money to illegal immigrants before actual citizens?

    I can tell you I don't. Some investment needs to be paid before dividends are paid to them.

    Opportunity should be presented. Immigrants need to work. First generation immigrants need to accept (and be appreciative of) a modest lifestyle- hopefully paving the way for an easier time for the second and third generation.

    I speak to the efforts of my Ukrainian grandparents that uprooted from Kiev and immigrated to Saskatchewan. They weren't afforded much outside of opportunity. They had it rough. But they provided a wonderful opportunity for their children and subsequent generations that I know Baba was proud of. 
    My ancestors are Irish and Lithuanian and did it the legal way. Sorry bud I am a rule follower, do it legally and play along the same rules as every other citizen of the country. Does Canada reward illegal citizens with college scholarships?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm not sure how anyone could not be okay with ensuring that the youth in America get a good education so that they can contribute to the success of America later.
    “good education”...so you want them to go to private schools? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    “private schools”...so you want them to grow up to be little terrorists like Sandsmann and Kavanaugh? Lol, I kid, I kid! 
    Obviously kidding if you consider them “terrorists”.
    Perhaps you’d prefer “culture warrior?” Lol!
    Surely you can’t agree with giving money to illegal immigrants before actual citizens?

    I can tell you I don't. Some investment needs to be paid before dividends are paid to them.

    Opportunity should be presented. Immigrants need to work. First generation immigrants need to accept (and be appreciative of) a modest lifestyle- hopefully paving the way for an easier time for the second and third generation.

    I speak to the efforts of my Ukrainian grandparents that uprooted from Kiev and immigrated to Saskatchewan. They weren't afforded much outside of opportunity. They had it rough. But they provided a wonderful opportunity for their children and subsequent generations that I know Baba was proud of. 
    Fellow Uke!

    No wonder I thought you were cool!
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