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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    cincybearcat said:
    Tiki said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Kat said:

    I'd be interested in other's honest takes on this issue.  Cause IMO, while trump has been losing the battles on the shutdown and the wall and looking like a child with his canceling of planes...this is a petty act by Pelosi.  My initial take.  And it gives trump a, "See how they treat me as president" opportunity.  I do not see the value in what Pelosi is doing.  Trump put her in a bad spot and won this stupid battle.
    Yeah but no.
    Care to elaborate?
    NO.  Let him hold a RALLY in West Virginia or Kentucky as his 2019 SOTU. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,713
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I think an important point everyone needs to consider here is that this child of privilege never expected to win the presidency. The worst outcome for him was to win.
    Yes, that's true. But I don't understand why it's an important point at this stage of the game.... Do you mean that we all have to keep it in mind so that our expectations stay on the floor? Because I'm having no trouble with that either way. :lol:
    Haha, touche'. I guess my point is at any time we want to pretend we're going to have a conversation about policy, as if it's legitimate, then that thought should just go out the window as quickly as it arrived. It's astonishing to me how many ridiculous things he, and his administration, has done, or attempted to do, and the beat just goes on. While Nancy Pelosi takes a stand on legitimate grounds.....and HOLY SHIT can't we just have balance people??? Dems, Pelosi and Schumer specifically, are held to completely standards than this buffoon and the R's. The "scale of balance" that the two sides are compared against will always be relative, which is a complete joke.
    I couldn't agree with you more.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Fuck that guy.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    New AP poll out has his "approval" at 34%.......dude's going down the tubes before Mueller's even finished...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,713
    I can't fucking believe his approval rating is that high. That is pretty scary.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I can't fucking believe his approval rating is that high. That is pretty scary.
    Yes.

    If the poll could be considered credible... is 1/3 of America actually digging this guy's performance? Seriously?

    That is messed up.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I can't fucking believe his approval rating is that high. That is pretty scary.
    Yes.

    If the poll could be considered credible... is 1/3 of America actually digging this guy's performance? Seriously?

    That is messed up.
    His base of white nationalists.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Kat said:
    Putin celebrates every day at how destabilized America has become at the hands of his puppet.


    lots of winning for sure
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    this is getting good. uh...i mean bad
  • Hi!
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    The Juggler said:
    New AP poll out has his "approval" at 34%.......dude's going down the tubes before Mueller's even finished...
    I’ve had a shit day, have had to listen to all sorts of snowflake MAGA shit from some of the most deplorable people on earth today, so this is nice to see.

    I live in probably one of the most conservative counties in Michigan, if not the US, and it can be really rough and make you feel all alone in the world sometimes. Dude down the street has a, Silent Majority Stands With Trump sign, still in his window from the election. I guess I am a snowflake because every time I pass it, I melt inside. It’s just nice to know I’m not the only one who doesn’t approve.
    I also don’t mind calling a deplorable, deplorable when it calls for it. I consider myself one, but I actually have empathy for people, so that might be the difference.
     I can’t wait for this to be over. 

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  • PJ_Soul
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I can't fucking believe his approval rating is that high. That is pretty scary.
    Yes.

    If the poll could be considered credible... is 1/3 of America actually digging this guy's performance? Seriously?

    That is messed up.
    His base of white nationalists.
    Do you really think that 34% or anywhere near that number of American voters are white nationalists?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The poll also had support of independent at 28%, with a 71% disapproval. 


    Yikes
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,575
    edited January 2019
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I can't fucking believe his approval rating is that high. That is pretty scary.
    Yes.

    If the poll could be considered credible... is 1/3 of America actually digging this guy's performance? Seriously?

    That is messed up.
    no, not a third of the country. he captured 1/5th of the population. These polls arent a reflection of the country as a whole. either registered voters, only those who did in fact vote or specifically folks who voted for him.

    Those details are important to know when relying on that data.
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  • Hi!
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    Also, I’m sure a large portion don’t necessarily identify with being white nationalist, but when pressed on their beliefs align with white nationalist ideals.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I can't fucking believe his approval rating is that high. That is pretty scary.
    Yes.

    If the poll could be considered credible... is 1/3 of America actually digging this guy's performance? Seriously?

    That is messed up.
    His base of white nationalists.
    Do you really think that 34% or anywhere near that number of American voters are white nationalists?
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I can't fucking believe his approval rating is that high. That is pretty scary.
    Yes.

    If the poll could be considered credible... is 1/3 of America actually digging this guy's performance? Seriously?

    That is messed up.
    His base of white nationalists.
    Do you really think that 34% or anywhere near that number of American voters are white nationalists?
    34% of PTeam TrUmp TreasonIN voters, 21-22 million Americans, sure, if not self identified white nationalists, sympathetic to the cause.
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  • PJ_Soul
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    Oh, you think the poll means that 34% of Trump voters support him? So only Trump voters were polled?
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  • The Juggler
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    34% of all registered votes support him, per that poll. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Oh, you think the poll means that 34% of Trump voters support him? So only Trump voters were polled?
    thats the part most leave out. Just who was polled to get that particular result.

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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Kat said:

    I'd be interested in other's honest takes on this issue.  Cause IMO, while trump has been losing the battles on the shutdown and the wall and looking like a child with his canceling of planes...this is a petty act by Pelosi.  My initial take.  And it gives trump a, "See how they treat me as president" opportunity.  I do not see the value in what Pelosi is doing.  Trump put her in a bad spot and won this stupid battle.
    I thought that at first because it gave Trump the rare opportunity to take the high road. Then he turns around and makes her get off the airplane runway last week. So he doubled down on her pettiness.

    At this point, I am glad that she held her ground. I don't think she had a choice. The problem in her initial canceling letter was citing security concerns. The reasoning should always have been just because the government is shut down. That makes sense to not have a state of the union while he has his own government shut down. The whole thing is pretty childish though. 
    And to expect the secret service and capitol police to provide the heightend level of security without pay. At least Nancy doesn't want to further rub salt in the wound.
    Yeah that's fair.  But they will be working anyhow without pay ;)

    I honestly don't know what I would do if in her shoes.  Maybe the same, though like Juggler mentioned it would have been better to make the reason the shutdown only.  But I also still think this gives him a little ammo....and he was all out of it before then.  This is really petty all around.  My opinion is congress should be in chambers...in session until passing government funding.  The president should be in the oval office until he signs something.  They should be working round the clock...and since Trump is being a baby, keep sending him bills.  The fact that they can just not work (and still get paid) while others are working and not being paid is ridiculous.
    Nancy, Chuck and Lindsey thought they had a deal. Team Trump Treason listens to his president, Ann Coulter, and VP, Rushbo, and walks away from it. Then Team Trump Treason invites Chuck and Nancy to the Oval Office to negotiate but instead is a petulant man child not interested in policy specifics but bluster and embarrassmnet, who then goes on to say that he'll own the shut down because he's a "tough" guy. Team Trump Treason can't be trusted nor is he willing to compromise. He's not the smartest guy in the room. Fuck him, he owns it, fully.
    That’s the shutdown. What about the SOTU?
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  • cincybearcat
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    Tiki said:
    Fuck that guy.
    Always adding so much. You really should try harder, I bet you have some good to contribute.
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