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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Bob Nightengale is a national embarrassment. 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    The Juggler said:
    Bob Nightengale is a national embarrassment. 
    He is the worst.  I'll never forget the night before Stanton got traded, when it was all but done and the trade was done but not announced, he tweeted over and over and over again about how the Yankees were not getting Stanton
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The Juggler said:
    What is happening


    There is going so going to be a strike
    if the agents didn't take 4 months to have their players sign you wouldn't be having these issues.  stop trying to bleed every last dollar and be the last stud to sign and you wouldn't have media reporting on it for 4 months.  Boras is going to bleed every last dollar from a team and will wait as long as possible to get as much as possible. as long as he and other agents do that the media and fans are going to speculate and report as much as they hear.  so fuck whoever wrote that above as they are as much of the problem as the media...end of my rant...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    pjhawks said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The Juggler said:
    What is happening


    There is going so going to be a strike
    if the agents didn't take 4 months to have their players sign you wouldn't be having these issues.  stop trying to bleed every last dollar and be the last stud to sign and you wouldn't have media reporting on it for 4 months.  Boras is going to bleed every last dollar from a team and will wait as long as possible to get as much as possible. as long as he and other agents do that the media and fans are going to speculate and report as much as they hear.  so fuck whoever wrote that above as they are as much of the problem as the media...end of my rant...
    Agents wouldn’t take 4 months to sign their players if they were getting deals they felt were fair. You would be team ownership 

    And yeah, god forbid someone wants to work for the most money possible. I’m sure you’d just jump at the first offer in your profession.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,911
    Cliffy6745 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The Juggler said:
    What is happening


    There is going so going to be a strike
    if the agents didn't take 4 months to have their players sign you wouldn't be having these issues.  stop trying to bleed every last dollar and be the last stud to sign and you wouldn't have media reporting on it for 4 months.  Boras is going to bleed every last dollar from a team and will wait as long as possible to get as much as possible. as long as he and other agents do that the media and fans are going to speculate and report as much as they hear.  so fuck whoever wrote that above as they are as much of the problem as the media...end of my rant...
    Agents wouldn’t take 4 months to sign their players if they were getting deals they felt were fair. You would be team ownership 

    And yeah, god forbid someone wants to work for the most money possible. I’m sure you’d just jump at the first offer in your profession.
    Yeah what else are agents supposed to do???  Especially with MLB not having a salary cap.  If I were a player I'd 100% want Boras as my agent.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    edited January 2019
    Cliffy6745 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The Juggler said:
    What is happening


    There is going so going to be a strike
    if the agents didn't take 4 months to have their players sign you wouldn't be having these issues.  stop trying to bleed every last dollar and be the last stud to sign and you wouldn't have media reporting on it for 4 months.  Boras is going to bleed every last dollar from a team and will wait as long as possible to get as much as possible. as long as he and other agents do that the media and fans are going to speculate and report as much as they hear.  so fuck whoever wrote that above as they are as much of the problem as the media...end of my rant...
    Agents wouldn’t take 4 months to sign their players if they were getting deals they felt were fair. You would be team ownership 

    And yeah, god forbid someone wants to work for the most money possible. I’m sure you’d just jump at the first offer in your profession.
    i work harder at my job than Manny Machado does.  this guy's player admitted he doesn't hustle. admitted it during a free agency year. i am supposed to feel bad that a guy who admits he is a dog might not get 10 years and $300 million?  puh--leeze

    agents calling out people for integrity is pretty funny. an industry of corrupt and deceitful human beings.  I get their job is to get as much as they can for their clients. i fully understand that but the media's job is to drive interest.  agents use the media as much for their gain as the media uses their clients.  it's bullshit for an agent to call out the media and/or the fans in my opinion. 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    pjhawks said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The Juggler said:
    What is happening


    There is going so going to be a strike
    if the agents didn't take 4 months to have their players sign you wouldn't be having these issues.  stop trying to bleed every last dollar and be the last stud to sign and you wouldn't have media reporting on it for 4 months.  Boras is going to bleed every last dollar from a team and will wait as long as possible to get as much as possible. as long as he and other agents do that the media and fans are going to speculate and report as much as they hear.  so fuck whoever wrote that above as they are as much of the problem as the media...end of my rant...
    Agents wouldn’t take 4 months to sign their players if they were getting deals they felt were fair. You would be team ownership 

    And yeah, god forbid someone wants to work for the most money possible. I’m sure you’d just jump at the first offer in your profession.
    i work harder at my job than Manny Machado does.  this guy's player admitted he doesn't hustle. admitted it during a free agency year. i am supposed to feel bad that a guy who admits he is a dog might not get 10 years and $300 million?  puh--leeze

    agents calling out people for integrity is pretty funny. an industry of corrupt and deceitful human beings.  I get their job is to get as much as they can for their clients. i fully understand that but the media's job is to drive interest.  agents use the media as much for their gain as the media uses their clients.  it's bullshit for an agent to call out the media and/or the fans in my opinion. 
    Who said anything about feeling bad? Pretty sure I’m never going to feel bad for a guy who is arguing over more money than any of us will ever see. 

    I am sure there are things in your job that ate equilivent to running to first base that you take shortcuts on.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    edited January 2019
    Yo this forum needs to get a https URL. My work is now blocking this site. What am I gonna do? Look at it on my phone? Ugh.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    It is https, you need a new job.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Poncier said:
    It is https, you need a new job.
    Oh yeah look at that. Well what the hell then. It's not porn and theres plenty of other bullshit sites I visit beyond this one.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    It is https, you need a new job.
    Oh yeah look at that. Well what the hell then. It's not porn and theres plenty of other bullshit sites I visit beyond this one.
    Is your employer Billy Corgan or Scott Stapp?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    It is https, you need a new job.
    Oh yeah look at that. Well what the hell then. It's not porn and theres plenty of other bullshit sites I visit beyond this one.
    Is your employer Billy Corgan or Scott Stapp?
    Would not be surprised if the musical tastes of the people I work with is that of Creed.

    All I know is this is bogus, man.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    Alriiiiight. Scott Stapp let me back in, baby.

    But, yeah, I don't fault agents or players wanting to maximize the amount of money they receive. Also, I'd say the greatest reason things are the way they are are because 1) the finances of baseball have swung in favor of the players back to the teams - I wouldn't call it "gaming" the system, they just know how much more valuable a GM is (andI'd say baseball GMs do not get paid remotely even close to what they're worth); and 2) the sport from a competitive standpoint needs refining/improvement - and this counteracts #1 as there is plenty of room to argue the idea of collusion in the sport.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Alriiiiight. Scott Stapp let me back in, baby.

    But, yeah, I don't fault agents or players wanting to maximize the amount of money they receive. Also, I'd say the greatest reason things are the way they are are because 1) the finances of baseball have swung in favor of the players back to the teams - I wouldn't call it "gaming" the system, they just know how much more valuable a GM is (andI'd say baseball GMs do not get paid remotely even close to what they're worth); and 2) the sport from a competitive standpoint needs refining/improvement - and this counteracts #1 as there is plenty of room to argue the idea of collusion in the sport.
    I don't know if it's collusion or just only a few teams can even consider guys like Machado and Harper.  It's not good for the game when only about 5 teams have a chance at signing stars. Heck even the Yankees are looking to be fiscally responsible these days because they don't want to go too far over the luxury tax.   There needs to be a salary cap and salary floor so the finances are spread out more evenly amongst teams.  It will most likely never happen in baseball though.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,028
    Almost every team could afford at least one of them if they wanted.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    I think there's room for improvements; haven't totally fleshed out this idea but maybe you have some kind of deadline for "preliminary" offers, possibly only for "qualified" players or "Type A or B" like they used to be labeled.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Winter Storm Harper this weekend, eh?
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    The Juggler said:
    Winter Storm Harper this weekend, eh?
    Who also cannot make up its mind!
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,212
    so much for the big snowstorm. although with the rain and cold weather the roads will probably be pretty bad.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    So...ummm....I'm getting word they just signed Harper.

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