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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    As long as I can remember immigration has been a hot topic in US politics.  I can not see how you will ever solve your immigration problems as long as all the southern countries below you remain poor.  Maybe it would be better if we could somehow start to work with the governments of these countries to lift them out of poverty.  Of course, this is not in the best interest of corporate America.
    Makes sense to me.  I've heard this idea from various sources for many years but not seen any movement that way.
    I brought this up a while back.  I considered the US "meddling" in south Americas affairs in order to bring them around but maybe it's just not possible.

    Look at Haiti.  You can throw as much money as you want at that country and it's still corrupt.

    A whole lot needs to change before they turn good.


    Haiti is still corrupt because people keep throwing money at it.  
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    January 2017 - GOP majority
    January 2017 Wall not an emergency
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    January 2018 Wall not an emergency
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    June 2018 Wall not an emergency
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    August 2018 Wall not an emergency
    September 2018 Wall not an emergency
    October 2018 Wall not an emergency
    November 2018 Wall not an emergency
    November 2018 Democratic majority elected in House
    January 2019 EMERGENCY
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Some “emergency:”


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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    The Juggler said:
    Some “emergency:”


    That is just dumb.  what a stupid tweet.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    U.S. approved thousands of child bride requests

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-approved-thousands-of-child-bride-requests-1.4249338?cid=sm:trueanthem:ctvnews:post&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c38b2f79ac5640001cb2031&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3FWxlX0DNx8hBJ9S-izfHq-cFfPgaG6t4av1AVtWVizoWw1ZIAMNww8hE

    WTF.  
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    11 more reasons what The Fucking Wall is a bad idea:

    The carbon emissions from constructing Trump's proposed 1,000 miles of new border wall could top 7.8 million metric tons, according to MIT Technology Review.

    But if animals couldn't travel back and forth between habitats and resources on either side of the border, many species would face local extinction in the US.

    The Stanford analysis showed that 346 species would lose access to half of their habitat because of a border wall.

    Animal migration patterns — even those of birds — would be disrupted.

    A wall would also make it harder for many animal species to adapt to climate change.

    One of the greatest potential environmental impacts of a border wall would be almost invisible at first: it would lead species to become less resilient to stress.

    Conservationists are particularly concerned about the future of the Mexican gray wolf.

    A border wall would also change the flow of major rivers.

    Depending on where and how a wall were erected — in the middle of a river, say — it could even act like a dam.

    One example of such flooding was a 2008 disaster that happened along the US-Mexico border in Nogales, Arizona.

    The border wall could have other impacts as well, like imperiling water-sharing agreements.






















    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Meltdown99 said:
    U.S. approved thousands of child bride requests

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-approved-thousands-of-child-bride-requests-1.4249338?cid=sm:trueanthem:ctvnews:post&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c38b2f79ac5640001cb2031&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3FWxlX0DNx8hBJ9S-izfHq-cFfPgaG6t4av1AVtWVizoWw1ZIAMNww8hE

    WTF.  

    This topic has come up before. The US is not squeaky clean protecting young girls from drooling, perverted older men.

    This (from your link) is horrific: Amin, now 29, said she was betrothed to her first cousin Tariq when she was just 8 and he was 21. Pretty f**king sick to view girls as items for trade or pawns for assisting men with their immigration objectives? If not useful to men... then nothing but burdens? 
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    The Juggler said:

    Now we just need a wall that can prevent those empty cars from coming.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    U.S. approved thousands of child bride requests

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-approved-thousands-of-child-bride-requests-1.4249338?cid=sm:trueanthem:ctvnews:post&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c38b2f79ac5640001cb2031&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3FWxlX0DNx8hBJ9S-izfHq-cFfPgaG6t4av1AVtWVizoWw1ZIAMNww8hE

    WTF.  

    This topic has come up before. The US is not squeaky clean protecting young girls from drooling, perverted older men.

    This (from your link) is horrific: Amin, now 29, said she was betrothed to her first cousin Tariq when she was just 8 and he was 21. Pretty f**king sick to view girls as items for trade or pawns for assisting men with their immigration objectives? If not useful to men... then nothing but burdens? 
    Disgusting to me.  Would be surprised if Canada does as well.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    interesting twitter thread here : 




  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    This wall business has me fuming this morning.  That 6 billion dollars could go toward education, both here and south of the border.  Education is the key to solving so many problems.  That may sound over-simplified (and to a degree it is) but basically I think it's true.  But no, half this crazy country wants to use that money to build a stinkin' wall. 

    I need a punching bag this morning.  Or maybe go out to the garage and break some shit.  :lol:

    Naaah, I gotta get to work! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    The Juggler said:

    Is this why I see loads of late 80's Toyota 4x4's on trailers heading down to Mexico?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    brianlux said:
    11 more reasons what The Fucking Wall is a bad idea:

    The carbon emissions from constructing Trump's proposed 1,000 miles of new border wall could top 7.8 million metric tons, according to MIT Technology Review.

    But if animals couldn't travel back and forth between habitats and resources on either side of the border, many species would face local extinction in the US.

    The Stanford analysis showed that 346 species would lose access to half of their habitat because of a border wall.

    Animal migration patterns — even those of birds — would be disrupted.

    A wall would also make it harder for many animal species to adapt to climate change.

    One of the greatest potential environmental impacts of a border wall would be almost invisible at first: it would lead species to become less resilient to stress.

    Conservationists are particularly concerned about the future of the Mexican gray wolf.

    A border wall would also change the flow of major rivers.

    Depending on where and how a wall were erected — in the middle of a river, say — it could even act like a dam.

    One example of such flooding was a 2008 disaster that happened along the US-Mexico border in Nogales, Arizona.

    The border wall could have other impacts as well, like imperiling water-sharing agreements.






















    That last one about water sharing is already a problem as there is little to no water heading down that way so cross that one off.  The rest can stay!
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    brianlux said:
    This wall business has me fuming this morning.  That 6 billion dollars could go toward education, both here and south of the border.  Education is the key to solving so many problems.  That may sound over-simplified (and to a degree it is) but basically I think it's true.  But no, half this crazy country wants to use that money to build a stinkin' wall. 

    I need a punching bag this morning.  Or maybe go out to the garage and break some shit.  :lol:

    Naaah, I gotta get to work! 

    I had a friend in high school who used to say 'run school like a prison, get prison problems'

    Educate people and provide decent health care and society will thrive.

    Build walls and create a surveillance state, well....just look at how peaceful Israel is
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    This wall business has me fuming this morning.  That 6 billion dollars could go toward education, both here and south of the border.  Education is the key to solving so many problems.  That may sound over-simplified (and to a degree it is) but basically I think it's true.  But no, half this crazy country wants to use that money to build a stinkin' wall. 

    I need a punching bag this morning.  Or maybe go out to the garage and break some shit.  :lol:

    Naaah, I gotta get to work! 

    I had a friend in high school who used to say 'run school like a prison, get prison problems'

    Educate people and provide decent health care and society will thrive.

    Build walls and create a surveillance state, well....just look at how peaceful Israel is
    If they loosen up on the immigration rules maybe less people would come across illegally?  I don't know.

    The wall is supposed to be a deterrent and to enter through legal means.

    Comparing it to Israels wall is a wee bit different as our neighbors below aren't sending mortars over and we aren't retaliating or vice versa.

    We have had a wall for years, people are still coming over.  Lather, rinse, wash repeat.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    brianlux said:
    This wall business has me fuming this morning.  That 6 billion dollars could go toward education, both here and south of the border.  Education is the key to solving so many problems.  That may sound over-simplified (and to a degree it is) but basically I think it's true.  But no, half this crazy country wants to use that money to build a stinkin' wall. 

    I need a punching bag this morning.  Or maybe go out to the garage and break some shit.  :lol:

    Naaah, I gotta get to work! 
    Well my state, CO, which has a teacher salary about 20% below the average, just voted down a very small tax increase that would increase education funding. It was something like 015% only to those who make over 100k. And it failed miserably. Wasn't even close. So that 5 billion won't be going to education. Parents don't want to fund their kid's education, but expect more and more from schools.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    This wall business has me fuming this morning.  That 6 billion dollars could go toward education, both here and south of the border.  Education is the key to solving so many problems.  That may sound over-simplified (and to a degree it is) but basically I think it's true.  But no, half this crazy country wants to use that money to build a stinkin' wall. 

    I need a punching bag this morning.  Or maybe go out to the garage and break some shit.  :lol:

    Naaah, I gotta get to work! 
    Well my state, CO, which has a teacher salary about 20% below the average, just voted down a very small tax increase that would increase education funding. It was something like 015% only to those who make over 100k. And it failed miserably. Wasn't even close. So that 5 billion won't be going to education. Parents don't want to fund their kid's education, but expect more and more from schools.
    That’s ridiculous. I don’t know what’s wrong wirh those people. I’m guessing that the high earners generally send their kids to private school; since they didn’t see a personal benefit, they’re willing to say “screw you” to all the other kids. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    oftenreading said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    This wall business has me fuming this morning.  That 6 billion dollars could go toward education, both here and south of the border.  Education is the key to solving so many problems.  That may sound over-simplified (and to a degree it is) but basically I think it's true.  But no, half this crazy country wants to use that money to build a stinkin' wall. 

    I need a punching bag this morning.  Or maybe go out to the garage and break some shit.  :lol:

    Naaah, I gotta get to work! 
    Well my state, CO, which has a teacher salary about 20% below the average, just voted down a very small tax increase that would increase education funding. It was something like 015% only to those who make over 100k. And it failed miserably. Wasn't even close. So that 5 billion won't be going to education. Parents don't want to fund their kid's education, but expect more and more from schools.
    That’s ridiculous. I don’t know what’s wrong with those people. I’m guessing that the high earners generally send their kids to private school; since they didn’t see a personal benefit, they’re willing to say “screw you” to all the other kids. 
    I think most didn't bother reading it. There really was no campaign or advertisement for it. I think people saw the word "tax increase" and stop reading and vote no. Didn't even realize it may not apply to them, and even if it did were talking $150 for someone making 100k.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    This wall business has me fuming this morning.  That 6 billion dollars could go toward education, both here and south of the border.  Education is the key to solving so many problems.  That may sound over-simplified (and to a degree it is) but basically I think it's true.  But no, half this crazy country wants to use that money to build a stinkin' wall. 

    I need a punching bag this morning.  Or maybe go out to the garage and break some shit.  :lol:

    Naaah, I gotta get to work! 
    Well my state, CO, which has a teacher salary about 20% below the average, just voted down a very small tax increase that would increase education funding. It was something like 015% only to those who make over 100k. And it failed miserably. Wasn't even close. So that 5 billion won't be going to education. Parents don't want to fund their kid's education, but expect more and more from schools.

    This is the part that consistently gets me.

    Further... once many people have no direct need for the schools... their levels of support wane from barely adequate to zero.

    Don't get me wrong: there are many great and supportive people backing schools and teachers. But there are far too many that simply don't get it.
    "My brain's a good brain!"

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