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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    surforia said:
    This is why we can't have nice things.
    Hilarious and there probably some truth to it. What started out as a cool way to reward fans and promote vinyl turned into an angry mob full of merch hoarders and flippers bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing.
    Hyperbole much?
    I don't think it that much of an exaggeration. This thread is full of negativity and complaints.
    Don't blame consumer dissatisfaction on the consumer. The merchant has something to do with the state of the relationship.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Get_Right said:
    surforia said:
    This is why we can't have nice things.
    Hilarious and there probably some truth to it. What started out as a cool way to reward fans and promote vinyl turned into an angry mob full of merch hoarders and flippers bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing.
    What started out as an annual membership with a cool way to reward fans and promote vinyl got two years behind on a consistent basis.  Has nothing to do with merch hoarders or flippers.  I have been critical of the annual single for some time. Other than the single and their shipping practices, I don't bad mouth 10C for anything else.  In fact, I have been highly supportive of about 99.5% of the things they do for us.  I'm not a merch hoarder nor do I flip things. I have given away more than I've bought for myself in the nearly 30 years following this band.  I know your comment wasn't directed at me personally, but for those of us who have complained about the single we are totally justified in our disappointment regarding the lack of its punctuality.  As a paying customer I have no problem defending that.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    surforia said:
    This is why we can't have nice things.
    Hilarious and there probably some truth to it. What started out as a cool way to reward fans and promote vinyl turned into an angry mob full of merch hoarders and flippers bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing.
    Hyperbole much?
    I don't think it that much of an exaggeration. This thread is full of negativity and complaints.
    In what way is complaining about them not releasing the single in over a year, and not keeping any updates on why that is "bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing"?

    They could have just been transparent, they've had plenty of newsletters to do so. Or post here. But chose not to. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    AfghanTwilight said:
    Not here to mince words--i'm pretty ticked. I just re-upped at the analog level this past fall. What does that guarantee me--a 2018 single, or did my re-up time make my membership a 2019 one? Prior to this fall, I had been digital for at least 5 years. This really sucks. Coal in our stockings! No soup for you!

    If my $40 doesn't get me a record, I want a $10 refund or credit for the shop. One of the two needs to happen, or simply refund all analog memberships back the $20 to make everyone digital.
    Don't fret, you're good.  It doesn't matter if you pay 1/1/18 or 12/31/18, that counts as your 2018 membership so you will receive the analog items for 2018 (whenever they are produced).  When you renew again next fall, that is for your 2019 membership.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    To be clear, I am not directing my comments at anyone in particular.  Everyone has a right to feel the way they want.  All good. Personally,  I thought membership took a turn for the worse when the started the analog choice.  I also suspected they outsourced it to a company that operates fan clubs around that time. I find it funny that grown adults treat being in a rock band's fan club so seriously.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,874
    Get_Right said:
    To be clear, I am not directing my comments at anyone in particular.  Everyone has a right to feel the way they want.  All good. Personally,  I thought membership took a turn for the worse when the started the analog choice.  I also suspected they outsourced it to a company that operates fan clubs around that time. I find it funny that grown adults treat being in a rock band's fan club so seriously.
    Who are you calling a grown adult?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    I still play Nintendo.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    Poncier said:
    Get_Right said:
    To be clear, I am not directing my comments at anyone in particular.  Everyone has a right to feel the way they want.  All good. Personally,  I thought membership took a turn for the worse when the started the analog choice.  I also suspected they outsourced it to a company that operates fan clubs around that time. I find it funny that grown adults treat being in a rock band's fan club so seriously.
    Who are you calling a grown adult?
    Perfect!  :)
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited December 2018
    What's the reason for analog?  Still get a t-shirt with it yes? I love the one this year with a big number 19 on the back. all right!!  Yes very original, this is 2019.  So when I'm writing the date on something I can always check the back of my shirts to remind me what year it is.  ( a big thumbs up)
    A number of years ago they sent out a little sheet of stickers.  And a few patches.  Now they don't send anything.  So the $40 is for?
    To pay for the upkeep of this website, the warehouse staff, & to pay a few people to monitor this forum, and to make sure we are all civil.
    Post edited by RYME on
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I still play Nintendo.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Lol, that's great!
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    surforia said:
    This is why we can't have nice things.
    Hilarious and there probably some truth to it. What started out as a cool way to reward fans and promote vinyl turned into an angry mob full of merch hoarders and flippers bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing.
    Hyperbole much?
    I don't think it that much of an exaggeration. This thread is full of negativity and complaints.
    In what way is complaining about them not releasing the single in over a year, and not keeping any updates on why that is "bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing"?

    They could have just been transparent, they've had plenty of newsletters to do so. Or post here. But chose not to. 
    The 10C has never been transparent. But in the end it usually works out. As it will here.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    surforia said:
    This is why we can't have nice things.
    Hilarious and there probably some truth to it. What started out as a cool way to reward fans and promote vinyl turned into an angry mob full of merch hoarders and flippers bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing.
    Hyperbole much?
    I don't think it that much of an exaggeration. This thread is full of negativity and complaints.
    In what way is complaining about them not releasing the single in over a year, and not keeping any updates on why that is "bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing"?

    They could have just been transparent, they've had plenty of newsletters to do so. Or post here. But chose not to. 
    The 10C has never been transparent. 
    Not the members fault.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Get_Right said:
    surforia said:
    This is why we can't have nice things.
    Hilarious and there probably some truth to it. What started out as a cool way to reward fans and promote vinyl turned into an angry mob full of merch hoarders and flippers bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing.
    Hyperbole much?
    I don't think it that much of an exaggeration. This thread is full of negativity and complaints.
    In what way is complaining about them not releasing the single in over a year, and not keeping any updates on why that is "bad mouthing the 10C for every little thing"?

    They could have just been transparent, they've had plenty of newsletters to do so. Or post here. But chose not to. 
    The 10C has never been transparent. 
    Not the members fault.
    Agreed.  But yet the members expect transparency.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    bootlegger10 said:
    stratmad said:
    After many years as an analogue member, it really is time to call time and be more savvy with my money.  I’ve finally accepted the fact, after realizing for a long time, that Pearl Jam just don’t use Pearl Jam as their primary outlet for new art or as the main vehicle for their other endeavors. Ed plays his solo shows, goes to baseball games and does charity work. The other guys are less visible generally and will pop up here and there to, say, promote a cause. All of it is great but whatever new art they’re doing it’s not as PJ and is otherwise selectively shared with the public, shall we say. They play a handful of shows a year together, mostly the old stuff to a hardcore fan base, Iike most legacy acts do and then disappear.  

    As a long time fan I’d love some regular new music and active engagement with the fans as a typical working band generally does, but I’ve resigned myself to the fact that those days of a new album / tour cycle are long gone. 


    You are correct.  I've read several articles over the last 10 years or so where they admire bands like the Rolling Stones.  Well, they are more like the Rolling Stones now than 2000 Pearl Jam.  When I think of the Rolling Stones I think of a band that doesn't release new music (or anything outstanding or that pushes new ground) and tours every 3-4 years for the cash and probably some enjoyment.  Pearl Jam spreads a bigger tour every 3 years over smaller tours each year.  They don't release new music and the music they do release is 50% great and 50% blah.  Pearl Jam shows are amazing and fun, but it is not new ground.  We are in the nostalgia phase or just entering. 

    This is all fine and dandy. They've been a band for 28 years and we couldn't really expect much more than this. 

    This is the main reason I'm liquidating my collection.  What I'm keeping is documenting trips and memories, but I don't look at a Pearl Jam shirt or poster like I did in 1995 when they were a current band that was passionate about making new music. 

    well said bud.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I still play Nintendo.

    Is that agnes?  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    Singles are disappearing on discogs.... who’s going to take the last uncensored angel? How about let me
    sleep??
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I still play Nintendo.

    Is that agnes?  ;)
    Yes. But the guy next to her is not me.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • AfghanTwilight
    AfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 869
    HesCalledDyer said:
    AfghanTwilight said:
    Not here to mince words--i'm pretty ticked. I just re-upped at the analog level this past fall. What does that guarantee me--a 2018 single, or did my re-up time make my membership a 2019 one? Prior to this fall, I had been digital for at least 5 years. This really sucks. Coal in our stockings! No soup for you!

    If my $40 doesn't get me a record, I want a $10 refund or credit for the shop. One of the two needs to happen, or simply refund all analog memberships back the $20 to make everyone digital.
    Don't fret, you're good.  It doesn't matter if you pay 1/1/18 or 12/31/18, that counts as your 2018 membership so you will receive the analog items for 2018 (whenever they are produced).  When you renew again next fall, that is for your 2019 membership.
    Okay, thanks. I've been a part of the club a long long time, but still receive my annually confused status.
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,319
    This sucks
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
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