Obamacare ACA (Affordable Care Act)
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            PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations...0
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 Hear from where? Statistics do not point to that. And everyone sharing the burden of Healthcare costs, and without the private incentive to cash out - the natural thing would be to lower costs.tempo_n_groove said:
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations...
 And who can afford to go to the states for operations? The 1%?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol. Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.
 Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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            Human health and healing should not be a profit driven endeavor... it should be a universal right for all0
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 That would save trillions of dollars....yes I would like thatMeltdown99 said:
 Wow. You really need universal health care.Gern Blansten said:
 yes....since 1998 it has gone up about 20% annually except for the first year of the ACAMeltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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            tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations...
 geez - How many families are you insuring?
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 That is obamacare and only just me...A family plan is like $1800 a month.CM189191 said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations...
 geez - How many families are you insuring?0
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 Rent? I live in NY so that is another story...PJ_Soul said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.0 Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.0
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            tempo_n_groove said:
 That is obamacare and only just me...A family plan is like $1800 a month.CM189191 said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations...
 geez - How many families are you insuring? Omg. I thought you meant for your whole family.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 Omg. I thought you meant for your whole family.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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 What sucks is that a single mom who makes more than $40K/year pays the same premium as a single mom who makes $300K/year. Kind of odd.PJ_Soul said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol. Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.
 A single mom who makes less than $40k/year can get subsidies that help take care of a lot of the premium
 Our system is so fucked up it is criminal.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 I'm guessing the insurance do a great lobbying job. That's too bad, profiting off people health issues.Gern Blansten said:
 That would save trillions of dollars....yes I would like thatMeltdown99 said:
 Wow. You really need universal health care.Gern Blansten said:
 yes....since 1998 it has gone up about 20% annually except for the first year of the ACAMeltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....Give Peas A Chance…0
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            Just for shits and grins I did just go and get a quote to see what a "family plan" would cost.
 Click on the link...
 https://www.hioscar.com/plans?zip_code=11572&year=2019&state=NY&income=150000&tax_household=5&member_age=43&beneficiary=member-spouse-kids&spouse_age=40&kid_amount=3&kid_ages-0=8&kid_ages-1=6&kid_ages-2=3
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 Yes they do...it's insane. What's even more insane is that the right wingers that are so incensed of the government telling them what to do in any way shape or form are perfectly fine with having insurance companies make medical decisions for them.Meltdown99 said:
 I'm guessing the insurance do a great lobbying job. That's too bad, profiting off people health issues.Gern Blansten said:
 That would save trillions of dollars....yes I would like thatMeltdown99 said:
 Wow. You really need universal health care.Gern Blansten said:
 yes....since 1998 it has gone up about 20% annually except for the first year of the ACAMeltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Yeah my new premiums is around $1,400/month for four of us. $15K deductible....murikkkatempo_n_groove said:
 That is obamacare and only just me...A family plan is like $1800 a month.CM189191 said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations...
 geez - How many families are you insuring?Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Yes, I literally consider it a human rights violation.... But Americans don't seem too mad about it, do they? I would expect to see rioting in the streets and elections ALL about this issue. But that isn't the case at all.Gern Blansten said:
 What sucks is that a single mom who makes more than $40K/year pays the same premium as a single mom who makes $300K/year. Kind of odd.PJ_Soul said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol. Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.
 A single mom who makes less than $40k/year can get subsidies that help take care of a lot of the premium
 Our system is so fucked up it is criminal.
 With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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 It's crazy because the people that opposed the ACA most vocally are likely the people that qualify for the subsidies and get the majority of their premium paid for by the government.PJ_Soul said:
 Yes, I literally consider it a human rights violation.... But Americans don't seem too mad about it, do they? I would expect to see rioting in the streets and elections ALL about this issue. But that isn't the case at all.Gern Blansten said:
 What sucks is that a single mom who makes more than $40K/year pays the same premium as a single mom who makes $300K/year. Kind of odd.PJ_Soul said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol. Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.
 A single mom who makes less than $40k/year can get subsidies that help take care of a lot of the premium
 Our system is so fucked up it is criminal.
 Polling about the issue was hilarious. People hated Obamacare (the ACA) but loved the ACA.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Calling the ACA Obamacare was one of the smartest and worst things the GOP ever did. They very deliberately coined that term to make Republicans hate it more. And WOW, did that ever work well. The reaction of the public to that will likely be touched upon in the "History of Idiocracy" book that someone might still be smart enough to write in 200 years.Gern Blansten said:
 It's crazy because the people that opposed the ACA most vocally are likely the people that qualify for the subsidies and get the majority of their premium paid for by the government.PJ_Soul said:
 Yes, I literally consider it a human rights violation.... But Americans don't seem too mad about it, do they? I would expect to see rioting in the streets and elections ALL about this issue. But that isn't the case at all.Gern Blansten said:
 What sucks is that a single mom who makes more than $40K/year pays the same premium as a single mom who makes $300K/year. Kind of odd.PJ_Soul said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol. Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.
 A single mom who makes less than $40k/year can get subsidies that help take care of a lot of the premium
 Our system is so fucked up it is criminal.
 Polling about the issue was hilarious. People hated Obamacare (the ACA) but loved the ACA.
 With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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 I was excited to get healthcare but was appalled at the cost.PJ_Soul said:
 Calling the ACA Obamacare was one of the smartest and worst things the GOP ever did. They very deliberately coined that term to make Republicans hate it more. And WOW, did that ever work well. The reaction of the public to that will likely be touched upon in the "History of Idiocracy" book that someone might still be smart enough to write in 200 years.Gern Blansten said:
 It's crazy because the people that opposed the ACA most vocally are likely the people that qualify for the subsidies and get the majority of their premium paid for by the government.PJ_Soul said:
 Yes, I literally consider it a human rights violation.... But Americans don't seem too mad about it, do they? I would expect to see rioting in the streets and elections ALL about this issue. But that isn't the case at all.Gern Blansten said:
 What sucks is that a single mom who makes more than $40K/year pays the same premium as a single mom who makes $300K/year. Kind of odd.PJ_Soul said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol. Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.
 A single mom who makes less than $40k/year can get subsidies that help take care of a lot of the premium
 Our system is so fucked up it is criminal.
 Polling about the issue was hilarious. People hated Obamacare (the ACA) but loved the ACA.
 There is no way that we can't figure out a way to make this work...0
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 No, there is literally no such thing as a for-profit healthcare system that works for everyone. It's impossible.tempo_n_groove said:
 I was excited to get healthcare but was appalled at the cost.PJ_Soul said:
 Calling the ACA Obamacare was one of the smartest and worst things the GOP ever did. They very deliberately coined that term to make Republicans hate it more. And WOW, did that ever work well. The reaction of the public to that will likely be touched upon in the "History of Idiocracy" book that someone might still be smart enough to write in 200 years.Gern Blansten said:
 It's crazy because the people that opposed the ACA most vocally are likely the people that qualify for the subsidies and get the majority of their premium paid for by the government.PJ_Soul said:
 Yes, I literally consider it a human rights violation.... But Americans don't seem too mad about it, do they? I would expect to see rioting in the streets and elections ALL about this issue. But that isn't the case at all.Gern Blansten said:
 What sucks is that a single mom who makes more than $40K/year pays the same premium as a single mom who makes $300K/year. Kind of odd.PJ_Soul said:tempo_n_groove said:PJ_Soul said:
 .... per year?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 My premiums started at $501 a month in 2014. They have had bigger increases over the last 2 years hence why it will now be $840 a month.Meltdown99 said:
 A month?tempo_n_groove said:
 My premiums have gone up from $501 to $840 in 4 years...Meltdown99 said:
 Is only 10% good?Gern Blansten said:I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
 Anyone on the conservative side does not like the thought of Universal Healthcare and thinks it will bankrupt the country.
 I don't think it will.
 I always hear the same arguments as to other countries are failing that have them or that they come here to the states to have operations... Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol. Your monthly health insurance premium is around the same amount that I pay for rent (taking the dollar conversion into account) ..... I'm not sure if you understand just how fucking shocking the amount people pay for this is to Canadians, lol. Like, it's almost hard to believe, even though I believe you. I just don't really get how Americans are actually putting up with this at all. It's very bizarre. If they will put up with this, what WON'T they put up with??Um, well, I mean, congrats on earning enough money to actually be able to pay this I guess, lol.
 A single mom who makes less than $40k/year can get subsidies that help take care of a lot of the premium
 Our system is so fucked up it is criminal.
 Polling about the issue was hilarious. People hated Obamacare (the ACA) but loved the ACA.
 There is no way that we can't figure out a way to make this work...
 With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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            It's such a stupid system. Luckily I have been very healthy and haven't had to use much of our system.
 My most recent doctor visit was $121. Very reasonable in my opinion. It was a brief visit where he went over my blood tests and checked out my blood pressure monitor to make sure it worked well.
 So...I pay him $30, my co-pay. Then in a few weeks I'll get about 10 pages of shit from my insurance company saying that they processed the $121 bill and that I will owe the doctor $91 since I haven't met my deductible yet. But the 10 pages from the insurance company is "NOT A BILL" which is marked very clearly on the 10 pages.
 A week or so after that I will get a $91 bill from my doctor for the balance.
 Stupidest fucking system on the planet.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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