George H.W. Bush, the 41st U.S. president and father of the 43rd, has died at age 94

Meltdown99 · December 2018

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I'd rather pick up poop on a walk from a dog than have my house constantly smell like litter and shit all the time from a cat.

A) The litter goes in a box, not on your living room floor.

b) You have scoop it out now and then.

C) If you have an outdoor cat you would be hard pressed to find cat shit and probably will never step in it.

Outdoor cats are the worst! I hate them.
They leave pee stains on my lawn, footprints on my car, drive my dog crazy for going into our backyard! I don't know why anyone thinks its okay to have an outdoor cat who thinks every yard is their yard.
I've hard to save my neighbor's cat twice from my dog, in my own yard. And another time it found a way inside our house and got cornered by my dog, had to call my neighbor to come get it. Then he later told me he'd be pissed and ask for me to pay for another cat if our dog and killed it, our dog who never left our yard.
I hate outdoor cats.

LOL. If that happens just hide the dead cat in his yard...

PJ_Soul · December 2018

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I'd rather pick up poop on a walk from a dog than have my house constantly smell like litter and shit all the time from a cat.

A) The litter goes in a box, not on your living room floor.

b) You have scoop it out now and then.

C) If you have an outdoor cat you would be hard pressed to find cat shit and probably will never step in it.

Outdoor cats are the worst! I hate them.
They leave pee stains on my lawn, footprints on my car, drive my dog crazy for going into our backyard! I don't know why anyone thinks its okay to have an outdoor cat who thinks every yard is their yard.
I've hard to save my neighbor's cat twice from my dog, in my own yard. And another time it found a way inside our house and got cornered by my dog, had to call my neighbor to come get it. Then he later told me he'd be pissed and ask for me to pay for another cat if our dog and killed it, our dog who never left our yard.
I hate outdoor cats.

Yeah, they shit in people's veggie gardens, that it true. I had a couple outdoor cats when I was younger who did just that. It's disgusting. I once caught one literally having diarrhea right into my roommate's bean rows.... At least I hated the roommate. He was a total fucking prick, lol. He got scabies from being a man-whore and didn't tell any of us, even though they're completely contagious via furniture and stuff. So I wasn't upset that my cat had violent diarrhea on his vegetables, lol.

cincybearcat · December 2018

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I'd rather pick up poop on a walk from a dog than have my house constantly smell like litter and shit all the time from a cat.

A) The litter goes in a box, not on your living room floor.

b) You have scoop it out now and then.

C) If you have an outdoor cat you would be hard pressed to find cat shit and probably will never step in it.

Outdoor cats are the worst! I hate them.
They leave pee stains on my lawn, footprints on my car, drive my dog crazy for going into our backyard! I don't know why anyone thinks its okay to have an outdoor cat who thinks every yard is their yard.
I've hard to save my neighbor's cat twice from my dog, in my own yard. And another time it found a way inside our house and got cornered by my dog, had to call my neighbor to come get it. Then he later told me he'd be pissed and ask for me to pay for another cat if our dog and killed it, our dog who never left our yard.
I hate outdoor cats.

A dog owner complaining about a cat is priceless.

1) I’ve never heard a neighbors cat meowing through the night or in the morning...I’ve heard plenty of neighbors dogs...and I want them to go away.
2) I’ve literally never had cat poop in my yard or driveway or stepped in cat poop anywhere....I’ve had dogs poop in my yard, on the sidewalk.
3) I’ve never had a cat owner bring their cat into a brewery l, etc I was at and had them walking around sniffing me and even jumping on people while saying “don’t worry he is a nice cat”...

Seriously though cats and dogs are awesome. But I hate many dog owners. Why does your dog have to go everywhere with you for fukes sake?

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

outdoor cats (unteathered) are outlawed in Manitoba. have been for many years. it's fucking creepy seeing my neighbours white cat teathered and walking in a circle with its belly on the ground

mace1229 · December 2018

cincybearcat said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I'd rather pick up poop on a walk from a dog than have my house constantly smell like litter and shit all the time from a cat.

A) The litter goes in a box, not on your living room floor.

b) You have scoop it out now and then.

C) If you have an outdoor cat you would be hard pressed to find cat shit and probably will never step in it.

Outdoor cats are the worst! I hate them.
They leave pee stains on my lawn, footprints on my car, drive my dog crazy for going into our backyard! I don't know why anyone thinks its okay to have an outdoor cat who thinks every yard is their yard.
I've hard to save my neighbor's cat twice from my dog, in my own yard. And another time it found a way inside our house and got cornered by my dog, had to call my neighbor to come get it. Then he later told me he'd be pissed and ask for me to pay for another cat if our dog and killed it, our dog who never left our yard.
I hate outdoor cats.

A dog owner complaining about a cat is priceless.

1) I’ve never heard a neighbors cat meowing through the night or in the morning...I’ve heard plenty of neighbors dogs...and I want them to go away.
2) I’ve literally never had cat poop in my yard or driveway or stepped in cat poop anywhere....I’ve had dogs poop in my yard, on the sidewalk.
3) I’ve never had a cat owner bring their cat into a brewery l, etc I was at and had them walking around sniffing me and even jumping on people while saying “don’t worry he is a nice cat”...

Seriously though cats and dogs are awesome. But I hate many dog owners. Why does your dog have to go everywhere with you for fukes sake?

Why is that priceless?
I'm only complaining about outdoor cats.
I am 100% confident in saying my dog has never pooped in anyone else's yard or driveway. He's kept in my yard and house and doesn't roam the neighborhood pooping. I do find cat poop in my yard and pee spots that kill the grass.
When my dog barks, I take him inside, he sleeps inside and rarely barks during the night. The rare occasions he does, there's usually some animal (usually my neighbor's cat) in our yard, or in 1 occasion some stranger who I found out the next day the police were on a manhunt for.
I've heard plenty of cats at night. Although not as loud as a dog, they are not uncommon to hear. Especially outside alley cats that want to get into a territorial fight.

Meltdown99 · December 2018

mace1229 said:

cincybearcat said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I'd rather pick up poop on a walk from a dog than have my house constantly smell like litter and shit all the time from a cat.

A) The litter goes in a box, not on your living room floor.

b) You have scoop it out now and then.

C) If you have an outdoor cat you would be hard pressed to find cat shit and probably will never step in it.

Outdoor cats are the worst! I hate them.
They leave pee stains on my lawn, footprints on my car, drive my dog crazy for going into our backyard! I don't know why anyone thinks its okay to have an outdoor cat who thinks every yard is their yard.
I've hard to save my neighbor's cat twice from my dog, in my own yard. And another time it found a way inside our house and got cornered by my dog, had to call my neighbor to come get it. Then he later told me he'd be pissed and ask for me to pay for another cat if our dog and killed it, our dog who never left our yard.
I hate outdoor cats.

A dog owner complaining about a cat is priceless.

1) I’ve never heard a neighbors cat meowing through the night or in the morning...I’ve heard plenty of neighbors dogs...and I want them to go away.
2) I’ve literally never had cat poop in my yard or driveway or stepped in cat poop anywhere....I’ve had dogs poop in my yard, on the sidewalk.
3) I’ve never had a cat owner bring their cat into a brewery l, etc I was at and had them walking around sniffing me and even jumping on people while saying “don’t worry he is a nice cat”...

Seriously though cats and dogs are awesome. But I hate many dog owners. Why does your dog have to go everywhere with you for fukes sake?

Why is that priceless?
I'm only complaining about outdoor cats.
I am 100% confident in saying my dog has never pooped in anyone else's yard or driveway. He's kept in my yard and house and doesn't roam the neighborhood pooping. I do find cat poop in my yard and pee spots that kill the grass.
When my dog barks, I take him inside, he sleeps inside and rarely barks during the night. The rare occasions he does, there's usually some animal (usually my neighbor's cat) in our yard, or in 1 occasion some stranger who I found out the next day the police were on a manhunt for.
I've heard plenty of cats at night. Although not as loud as a dog, they are not uncommon to hear. Especially outside alley cats that want to get into a territorial fight.

Same here. My dog only poops in my yard. Rarely barks. Even the mailperson barely gets a rise out of her. Getting up in the morning to her beautiful face, priceless.

stuckinline · December 2018

Gern Blansten said:

Bob Dole standing up at the casket was a tear jerker....I don't care if you like him or not

Respect!

oftenreading · December 2018

I’ve heard dogs bark and cats meow and squeal. I’ve seen dog shit and cat shit out and about in yards and gardens and elsewhere. I’ve cleaned up dog barf and car barf.

There’s no rational way to choose one over the other; it just comes down to which you prefer.

Halifax2TheMax · December 2018

oftenreading said:

I’ve heard dogs bark and cats meow and squeal. I’ve seen dog shit and cat shit out and about in yards and gardens and elsewhere. I’ve cleaned up dog barf and car barf.

There’s no rational way to choose one over the other; it just comes down to which you prefer.

Car barf? Next time try the super unleaded.

oftenreading · December 2018

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

George HW Bush's service dog Sully pays touching last tribute

I kind of hate to burst the bubble, but apparently Sully was with Bush for less than six months. He was a trained service dog who assisted with tasks like opening the door and fetching objects. This is a great photo into which people read far more than is there.

How does this burst a bubble? I'm sure this dog understood that his charge was dead and is sad about it (no, I'm not anthropomorphizing. Dogs do indeed become attached to their owners and miss them - we all know that). 6 months is long enough for a dog and person to become attached IMO. I'm not reading any more into it than what it is: sad.

Dogs miss their owners, sure, or at least some dogs, for some periods of time. It’s how people impute other thoughts and feelings to animals that annoys me. They are their own thing; they have completely their own behaviours and reactions. It does not alll revolve around us and it is not the same as ours, so it’s ridiculous and disrespectful to insist that their motives are the same as ours.

Meltdown99 · December 2018

Gern Blansten said:

Bob Dole standing up at the casket was a tear jerker....I don't care if you like him or not

I went to CNN to watch the video. Very touching.

Meltdown99 · December 2018

oftenreading said:

I’ve heard dogs bark and cats meow and squeal. I’ve seen dog shit and cat shit out and about in yards and gardens and elsewhere. I’ve cleaned up dog barf and car barf.

There’s no rational way to choose one over the other; it just comes down to which you prefer.

Some prefer both. My brother-in-law had both until his dog passed on...

OnWis97 · December 2018

Dogs rule; cats drool! (you know, metaphorically)

njnancy · December 2018

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

George HW Bush's service dog Sully pays touching last tribute

I kind of hate to burst the bubble, but apparently Sully was with Bush for less than six months. He was a trained service dog who assisted with tasks like opening the door and fetching objects. This is a great photo into which people read far more than is there.

How does this burst a bubble? I'm sure this dog understood that his charge was dead and is sad about it (no, I'm not anthropomorphizing. Dogs do indeed become attached to their owners and miss them - we all know that). 6 months is long enough for a dog and person to become attached IMO. I'm not reading any more into it than what it is: sad.

Dogs miss their owners, sure, or at least some dogs, for some periods of time. It’s how people impute other thoughts and feelings to animals that annoys me. They are their own thing; they have completely their own behaviours and reactions. It does not alll revolve around us and it is not the same as ours, so it’s ridiculous and disrespectful to insist that their motives are the same as ours.

When my father died, his dog looked for him for about 6 months. He would run to the door and then walk away dejected when his smell and hearing realized it wasn't him. A jacket of my father's was on the back of his chair for about a month and his dog would circle the chair and finally lay down. He wasn't the same after my dad died. He lost part of his personality. We loved the dog but we weren't his owner. We weren't putting our feelings into the dog. The dog was looking for his owner and couldn't find him.

When my dog, Guinness, was 13 she slowly began to fail over a 3 month period. My brother had just died a couple of months prior but I finally made the decision to put her down. I had to put aside my grief and realize she was in pain and was not happy. I carried her to the vet with my son on a body pillow after we spent some time in the backyard just for one last time but she just laid there. After the vet gave her a shot of anti-anxiety medication, my son and I were able to spend about 15 minutes saying good bye before they came back to put her to sleep. Guinness, had not been responsive to me in about a week but after she got the shot and the vet left us alone, she lifted up her head and licked my face. She did that twice. I, to this day, believe she was thanking me for putting her out of her misery. Dogs have feelings, dogs smile, dogs love their owners and owners love their dogs. The only time I saw my father cry was when he had to put down a dog.

Sully makes me cry. He's a good dog and I believe that he knows that his owner is gone and is in that box. They have sharp senses of smell and if nothing else, the clothing on Pres. Bush smells like him. Nobody made the dog lay down in that spot. It's where the dog chose to lay down while the Pres. lay in repose in Houston prior to coming to DC.

Life will go on for Sully, but it is touching and there is nothing wrong with feeling emotional when seeing the picture.

PJ_Soul · December 2018

oftenreading said:

I’ve heard dogs bark and cats meow and squeal. I’ve seen dog shit and cat shit out and about in yards and gardens and elsewhere. I’ve cleaned up dog barf and car barf.

There’s no rational way to choose one over the other; it just comes down to which you prefer.

I love both!

PJ_Soul · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

outdoor cats (unteathered) are outlawed in Manitoba. have been for many years. it's fucking creepy seeing my neighbours white cat teathered and walking in a circle with its belly on the ground

I wonder how the rat and mice populations are doing in Montana? This is insane to me. So there are no barn/farm cats?? Aren't there a shitload of farms and barns in Montana??

tbergs · December 2018

Wow, take a break for a few hours and a thread about a dead president goes to shit over a dog posed in what is clearly meant to be a symbolic photo. If you haven't had a dog for a pet you may not be the best person to speak to how dogs act and the bond they form with their companion with them almost every hour of every day.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

outdoor cats (unteathered) are outlawed in Manitoba. have been for many years. it's fucking creepy seeing my neighbours white cat teathered and walking in a circle with its belly on the ground

I wonder how the rat and mice populations are doing in Montana? This is insane to me. So there are no barn/farm cats?? Aren't there a shitload of farms and barns in Montana??

Manitoba. And now that I think about it, it's probably a civic by law, not a provincial one.

oftenreading · December 2018

tbergs said:

Wow, take a break for a few hours and a thread about a dead president goes to shit over a dog posed in what is clearly meant to be a symbolic photo. If you haven't had a dog for a pet you may not be the best person to speak to how dogs act and the bond they form with their companion with them almost every hour of every day.

I’ve had dogs, I’ve had that bond. I stand by my position that we are reading something different into that bond than the dogs are. Of course, my position is affected by having a degree in zoology.

oftenreading · December 2018

Also, most people here posting about their connection to dogs are talking about family pets over the lifetime of the pet, not a service dog over six months.

George H.W. Bush, the 41st U.S. president and father of the 43rd, has died at age 94

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