George H.W. Bush, the 41st U.S. president and father of the 43rd, has died at age 94

my2hands

Is this shit over yet? 

njnancy

RunIntoTheRain said:

stuckinline said:

Love that Melania is sitting next to Obama. Also, get a kick out of George W. and Michelle Obama's friendship. Wonder what George W. gave to Michelle?

Candy. 

At McCain's funeral, Michelle Obama's throat got dry and W gave her a candy/lozenge. It was an inside joke to do so at his dad's funeral. Michelle Obama and George Bush hit it off and have a close friendship.

When there are only 44 people who are former presidents, no matter what their politics were, they all understand the idea of being a head of state in times of crisis/national tragedy. 45 has absolutely no idea how to act in a normal human situation. He is not a head of state, he is the head of the people who voted for him, at least he pretends to be.

I think it was really thoughtful for W to give her the candy. Not sure I would think of a small gesture like that at a parent's funeral. But they think differently. Except for the toddler. Everyone was chatting with each other until he showed up and he couldn't even shake everyone's hand like any normal President would do. He doesn't belong to the 'club'. That's been his problem his whole life. Can't figure out how to get into the 'clubs' he wants to be in and can't understand why  none of his 'peers' accept him.   It's blatantly obvious to any normal human being that is paying attention. Sitting in the pew with your arms crossed and not even bothering to sing a song is just petulant. 

Ronan Tynan is one of the Irish Tenors, or formerly was. I saw them twice at MSG, once days after John Kennedy, Jr died. When Irish Eyes Are Smiling was dedicated to him and was a tear jerker. They are amazing. He is amazing. He was at the residence when 41 died; he was singing Silent Night & Gaelic songs. Random fact - he lost both legs at a young age and has BK prosthetic legs.

I'm 3/4 Irish and my grandparents and mom's siblings were born in Ireland and i was married to a man with a BK prosthetic leg so they are two things that endear Tynan to me. Besides his unbelievable voice. 

njnancy

my2hands said:

Is this shit over yet? 

If you mean has the President been laid to rest. yes,  A train carried him from Houston after the private funeral this morning to College Station TX where his teaching library is and also where the grave site where his wife and young daughter are buried. He now is buried there with them. 

Have you ever lost anyone? I can understand if you don't care about this particular President but to call it shit is rather cold. 

I know, you're just kidding. 

HughFreakingDillon

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HughFreakingDillon said:

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oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

George HW Bush's service dog Sully pays touching last tribute

I kind of hate to burst the bubble, but apparently Sully was with Bush for less than six months. He was a trained service dog who assisted with tasks like opening the door and fetching objects. This is a great photo into which people read far more than is there. 

How does this burst a bubble? I'm sure this dog understood that his charge was dead and is sad about it (no, I'm not anthropomorphizing. Dogs do indeed become attached to their owners and miss them - we all know that). 6 months is long enough for a dog and person to become attached IMO. I'm not reading any more into it than what it is: sad.

maybe not you, but tonnes of people are looking at this picture and seeing it as the dog in mourning over his master's casket, which, honestly, is ludicrous. obviously the dog CAN mourn if they see their master dead, but not a chance this dog understands who/what is behind him. 

I disagree. I think the dog probably does know who is in that box and that he's dead. Dogs totally know when someone or something is dead, and he would definitely be able to smell who it is in the casket. I'm not saying that the dog is lying there crying inside over it of course. Mostly the photo is symbolic and that is what I think stirs some people's emotions ... I don't understand why anyone felt the need to kind of shit on that, but okay, lol.

So you acknowledge the pic is largely symbolic, which is basically what often and I are saying, but your next statement is claiming that stating that is "shitting on it". 

was it "shitting on that" when you stated people who like pointless platitude pictures in their house as lacking something in their lives? I don't see this as any different. it's not shitting on anything. it's just having an opinion. 

if the dog knew his master was in that casket, and was dead, I'd imagine his training would require him to get help. he's lying there sleeping. unless dogs are trained to give up getting help if they know their master is dead. LOL

I'd have to check the scientific literature, but if a dog can alert a diabetic that her sugar is low, I'd put my money on the dog knowing his charge is dead. I don't think dogs are trained to call 911, though.

It's sad -- the situation, maybe or maybe not the dog. 

I'd also put my money on the dog knowing his charge is dead. that's not what i was saying. I don't think the dog would be able to tell that his fermaldehyde-filled charge is in a pine box behind him.