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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    The Juggler said:
    Segura plus a couple decent relievers? Only giving up Santana and JP. Yeah not bad. 

    From what I was reading, Segura seems to be the kind of player that Crawford's ceiling is compared to anyway. Also under team control for 4 years with a team option for year number 5. 


    I'd still rather Harper than Machado.  Something like this looks okay to me:

    4-Hernandez S /Kingery R
    6-Segura R
    3-Rhys R
    9-Harper L
    5-Franco R /Kingery R
    7-Williams L /Herrera S
    8-Quin L /Herrera S
    2-Alfaro R
    1-Nola


    I think they need to cut bait on Franco.  I want to like the guy (he was very nice to my nephew one time at the park) but he kinda sucks. 
    I'm sure Odubel and him will be dangled in some trades in the coming weeks...
    You should get more for Herrera than Franco but that's not saying much. Franco/Herrera/Hernandez - you should be trading all of these guys. They're stunting Kingery by playing him in this super-utility role. Just put him at 2nd and call it a day. Out of the three pf those I'm fine with keeping Franco so that Harper is the priority instead of Machado.

    Quinn should be your leadoff man no matter what. Of course, the guy has to be able to stay on the goddamn field.

    This is the team I hope they can field in my dream world:

    1. Quinn - CF
    2. Segura - SS
    3. Hoskins - 1B
    4. Harper - RF
    5. Franco (or go get Moustakas or someone like Marwin Gonzalez) - 3B
    6. Williams/Platoon - LF
    7. Alfaro - C
    8. Kingery - 2B

    Bench:
    C-/Knapp/Free agent/?
    OF - Free agent/Platoon guy/Austin Jackson maybe?
    Utility - ? He'd play everyday somehow but I'd still like if they went after Whit Merrifield
    INF - ? Defense-first guy


    SP - Nola
    SP - Corbin
    SP - Arrieta
    SP - Eflin 
    SP - Pivetta

    RP - Miller (LHP)
    RP - Davis/Morgan (LHP)
    RP - Velasquez 
    RP - Nicaso/Pazo (hopefully one of these guys payoff as a lottery ticket)
    RP - Neris
    RP - Neshek 
    RP - Hunter (boo)
    RP - Dominguez
  • F Me In The Brain
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    Moustakas would make all sorts of sense if they don't get no-hustle-Manny.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    The Juggler said:
    Segura plus a couple decent relievers? Only giving up Santana and JP. Yeah not bad. 

    From what I was reading, Segura seems to be the kind of player that Crawford's ceiling is compared to anyway. Also under team control for 4 years with a team option for year number 5. 


    I'd still rather Harper than Machado.  Something like this looks okay to me:

    4-Hernandez S /Kingery R
    6-Segura R
    3-Rhys R
    9-Harper L
    5-Franco R /Kingery R
    7-Williams L /Herrera S
    8-Quin L /Herrera S
    2-Alfaro R
    1-Nola


    I think they need to cut bait on Franco.  I want to like the guy (he was very nice to my nephew one time at the park) but he kinda sucks. 
    I'm sure Odubel and him will be dangled in some trades in the coming weeks...
    You should get more for Herrera than Franco but that's not saying much. Franco/Herrera/Hernandez - you should be trading all of these guys. They're stunting Kingery by playing him in this super-utility role. Just put him at 2nd and call it a day. Out of the three pf those I'm fine with keeping Franco so that Harper is the priority instead of Machado.

    Quinn should be your leadoff man no matter what. Of course, the guy has to be able to stay on the goddamn field.

    This is the team I hope they can field in my dream world:

    1. Quinn - CF
    2. Segura - SS
    3. Hoskins - 1B
    4. Harper - RF
    5. Franco (or go get Moustakas or someone like Marwin Gonzalez) - 3B
    6. Williams/Platoon - LF
    7. Alfaro - C
    8. Kingery - 2B

    Bench:
    C-/Knapp/Free agent/?
    OF - Free agent/Platoon guy/Austin Jackson maybe?
    Utility - ? He'd play everyday somehow but I'd still like if they went after Whit Merrifield
    INF - ? Defense-first guy


    SP - Nola
    SP - Corbin
    SP - Arrieta
    SP - Eflin 
    SP - Pivetta

    RP - Miller (LHP)
    RP - Davis/Morgan (LHP)
    RP - Velasquez 
    RP - Nicaso/Pazo (hopefully one of these guys payoff as a lottery ticket)
    RP - Neris
    RP - Neshek 
    RP - Hunter (boo)
    RP - Dominguez
    Would you go 6 years for Corbin? 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    I go 6 for Corbin. He's also getting 6 years and I am sure getting 6 year offers from all three teams.  He's young'ish. He doesn't have a ton of innings on his arm.  He already had TJ (feel like this is a positive now). He is not a fastball pitcher so velocity is not the biggest issue if it declines.

    Downsides are that he isn't terribly established, played in a crap division, is a one pitch pitcher, throws out of the zone.

    But he is by far the best pitcher on the open market.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    I think it's funny how Tommy John surgeries have evolved into being good things for pitchers moving forward now
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    The Juggler said:
    I think it's funny how Tommy John surgeries have evolved into being good things for pitchers moving forward now
    Definitely. The list of people who had 1 is huge. The list of people who have 2 is muuuuuch smaller, so you aren't as likely to lose another year or more. 
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    edited December 2018
    I'd go 6 for the reasons stated above.

    What's even crazier is how TJ surgery is seen as a good thing when you're 13. Not just 13, but it's used as a preemptive surgery instead of because of an injury. Nuts.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I'd go 6 for the reasons stated above.

    What's even crazier is how TJ surgery is seen as a good thing when you're 13. Not just 13, but it's used as a preemptive surgery instead of because of an injury. Nuts.
    Well yeah, that is some sick stuff.  Youth sports are insane.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2018
    Yeah I'm gonna push my brother in law to get TJ for my godson soon. He's 3. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Nightengale says Phils telling Corbin they will not be outbid...


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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    And if this happened - Segura and Diaz? My head may have exploded...



    https://theathletic.com/693063/2018/12/04/rosenthal-inside-the-phils-pursuit-of-segura-is-haniger-the-next-to-go-mets-not-finished-yet-more-notes/
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    I believe it.  What does that mean though?  They'll match any offer or they'll add on a year?  Curious what this actually means...Nightengale is such a dipshit.

    I have been convinced for a year now Corbin is the Yanks guy and it would happen, so sticking with it until he's holding up someone else's jersey.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    edited December 2018
    That's a good front three

    Oops.  Or not...good front 3 for the Nationals...
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    edited December 2018
    Bob Nightengale is never right. Ever. Up until this second when everyone else is saying Nats



    Edit: HAHAHA, The clown delete the tweet. There is a link to a tweet there
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Fuck Washington.

    Damn it, Cliff---I was getting ready to post that old Cliff Lee pic for old times sake too....
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    The Juggler said:
    Fuck Washington.

    Damn it, Cliff---I was getting ready to post that old Cliff Lee pic for old times sake too....
    I was going to post the picture of Corbin putting on a Yanks hat in response to your scoreboard picture! God dammit, Juggs!
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    Welp forget Corbin.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,255
    I guess the Phillies were out-bid for Corbin. Report is he's getting $140 MIL for 6 years.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    cutz said:
    I guess the Phillies were out-bid for Corbin. Report is he's getting $140 MIL for 6 years.
    I was joking with people at work that it'll be deferred so he's getting paid until 2050. And holy shit I may not be wrong!
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,539
    There's no way they can re-sign Harper now right? I mean they could, but the math just doesn't work.

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