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There is actually some rally good stuff about teamwork and leadership in that movie. My company actually uses a segment in some really great organization training that I have given. I think a nice mix of this and some harder core stuff would be great for high schoolers.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Then throw them something with meat on it, instead of some patriotic Hollywood-cotton candy.PJ_Soul said:
He teaches in high school I believe.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Didn't you teach like college? What age are these kids?mcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Kurt Russel though... mmm...
SHOW ROCKY IV!
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I show “life is beautiful” when teaching the holocaust and they have to write about an ethical question I raise. They get used to the subtitles pretty quick.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Just out of curiosity, do you show any non-Hollywood films during your courses? Or any non-english speaking films?mcgruff10 said:
I do show the end clip of war games.pjhawks said:
hope you show War Games and Red Dawn as wellmcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Red dawn, yeah no lol.
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Ofcourse. Remember being bored from having to watch Spartacus in High School. Haha.HughFreakingDillon said:to be fair to mcgruff, sometimes teachers show something that is "light" at the end of teaching a serious topic. nothing really wrong with that."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Ya, that's why I didn't jump to accuse. I don't know the specifics... I think it's a bit uncomfortable showing any movie that is so insanely pro-Am/patriotic as Miracle is, but I guess Americans are used to extreme patriotism in the education system anyway. That would just be normal there I think. BTW, are they still doing the fucking pledge of allegiance in American schools? Or did the courts knock that down?HughFreakingDillon said:to be fair to mcgruff, sometimes teachers show something that is "light" at the end of teaching a serious topic. nothing really wrong with that.
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I could see a million reasons if you're a history teacher.PJ_Soul said:
Why and how would he show non-English speaking films in an English language school, and he's not a language teacher? The kids wouldn't even be able to see the sub-titles from the back of the class probably.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Just out of curiosity, do you show any non-Hollywood films during your courses? Or any non-english speaking films?mcgruff10 said:
I do show the end clip of war games.pjhawks said:
hope you show War Games and Red Dawn as wellmcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Red dawn, yeah no lol.
I ve taught 8th grade for the past 18 years.
E.g. Studying the second world war and watching Der Untergang
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I'm watching Oceans 8 with my mom now, have to go.
Will Sandra Bullock steal the jewels? STAY TUNED."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Maybe you and I are the only people that understand the significance of that hockey victory in that time of history...mcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
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But how are they supposed to do that, is what I'm asking. Again, they just wheel in TVs. The class wouldn't be able to read the subtitles. And probably other kids can't even read subtitles well enough to follow (sadly). Also, there are plenty of great English-language films to use - like, thousands of them. There is no reason to do what you're suggesting, practically.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I could see a million reasons if you're a history teacher.PJ_Soul said:
Why and how would he show non-English speaking films in an English language school, and he's not a language teacher? The kids wouldn't even be able to see the sub-titles from the back of the class probably.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Just out of curiosity, do you show any non-Hollywood films during your courses? Or any non-english speaking films?mcgruff10 said:
I do show the end clip of war games.pjhawks said:
hope you show War Games and Red Dawn as wellmcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Red dawn, yeah no lol.
I ve taught 8th grade for the past 18 years.
E.g. Studying the second world war and watching Der Untergang
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Could you see the Saints receivers with a running start? They put 40 up on good defences now.pjhawks said:
if wide receivers in the NFL could start running before the ball is hiked the scores would be 95-90. it's already insanely difficult to stop a good passing team in the NFL. put that rule in and it would literally be impossible to stop a good passing team. and if the NFL put the goal posts back at the front of the end zone you'd be seeing 70 yard field goals. we are seeing some in the 60s now. those are 2 rules just off the top of my head that could never happen in the NFL as the players are too damn good.PJ_Soul said:
Exactly. It is a better game in terms of how it's played and the small details that separate it from the way NFL is played. Obviously what it lacks is the best possible football players because those are all getting paid millions and millions in the NFL.HughFreakingDillon said:
take away the production values of the NFL. CFL game is better. and I'm not saying that as a canadian. I'm saying that as a moderate football fan. CFL keeps my attentin. NFL does not.my2hands said:
Ok, you just crossed a linePJ_Soul said:
I bet to differ. CFL is a really good game.Meltdown99 said:In Canada, we usually get a couple CFL games. Might as well watch US high school football over the CFL.
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That Russian team easily beat pro teams...so for college kids to pull that upset...fantastic.pjhawks said:
greatest upset in the history of sports. at the height of the Cold War. amazing anyone beat that team let alone a bunch of american college kids.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Rocky IV is atleast a movie from that era, so it's a historic document in that sense.PJ_Soul said:Yeah, Rocky IV certainly beats Miracle. Though I'm a bit of a Rocky fanatic, so may be biased, lol.I admit I don't feel great about the idea of teaching the Cold War via super pro-American Hollywood movies in general. I don't know enough about McGruff's lesson plan to fully comment in this case though. I would think a solid, unbiased documentary about that who spectacle would be the best choice, but... nobody asked me, lol.
Miracle is just america-fuck-yeah bullshit to make americans cozy in front of the television...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
LOLmy2hands said:
Why the fuck would you show 7th graders a movie with subtitles? I'm 40 and i dont watch that shitSpiritual_Chaos said:
Just out of curiosity, do you show any non-Hollywood films during your courses? Or any non-english speaking films?mcgruff10 said:
I do show the end clip of war games.pjhawks said:
hope you show War Games and Red Dawn as wellmcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Red dawn, yeah no lol.
I ve taught 8th grade for the past 18 years.
You really need to lighten up with the anti-American schtick dude, good lord lol
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Yeah you are talking about one of the most memorable sports moments in history at the absolute height of the Cold War. This game (and it wasn't even the gold medal game) and the significance of it is above their comprehension. I really try to drive home that the US and USSR competed EVERYWHERE during the Cold War.Meltdown99 said:
Maybe you and I are the only people that understand the significance of that hockey victory in that time of history...mcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Der Untergang, I mean it's ok but you have to remember your audience (for me we are talking 13 and 14 year olds, kids). My main objective is to keep them interested, engaged and teach US History from the end of the Civil War to the present., I might show a clip from that but not the whole movie. It is just too much of the same thing and they would quickly lose interest. Plus I really don't have time to spend on a movie like that, just too many things to cover.
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I get it as wellMeltdown99 said:
Maybe you and I are the only people that understand the significance of that hockey victory in that time of history...mcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
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I actually fully recognize the importance of that game at the time, and it was amazing sports drama too. I just don't like the Disney pro-Am schlock of Miracle, lol.mcgruff10 said:
Yeah you are talking about one of the most memorable sports moments in history at the absolute height of the Cold War. This game (and it wasn't even the gold medal game) and the significance of it is above their comprehension. I really try to drive home that the US and USSR competed EVERYWHERE during the Cold War.Meltdown99 said:
Maybe you and I are the only people that understand the significance of that hockey victory in that time of history...mcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Der Untergang, I mean it's ok but you have to remember your audience (for me we are talking 13 and 14 year olds, kids). My main objective is to keep them interested, engaged and teach US History from the end of the Civil War to the present., I might show a clip from that but not the whole movie. It is just too much of the same thing and they would quickly lose interest. Plus I really don't have time to spend on a movie like that, just too many things to cover.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Der Untergang was just an example, in the context of historic films with subs. Haha.mcgruff10 said:
Yeah you are talking about one of the most memorable sports moments in history at the absolute height of the Cold War. This game (and it wasn't even the gold medal game) and the significance of it is above their comprehension. I really try to drive home that the US and USSR competed EVERYWHERE during the Cold War.Meltdown99 said:
Maybe you and I are the only people that understand the significance of that hockey victory in that time of history...mcgruff10 said:
Oh hell yeah, kids love it. Fantastic movie.HughFreakingDillon said:
a hockey movie for cold war teachings?mcgruff10 said:
Amazing movie!! I show it to my classes when I teach the Cold War. Again! Again!Meltdown99 said:
I absolutely enjoyed our 3 Olympic Gold Medals in hockey in the last few Olympics. But that team the US sent lake placid. Just impressive. I have watched the movie at least a dozen times...mcgruff10 said:
I agree. Realize I was just poking fun at soul.Meltdown99 said:
That's weak. The most impressive hockey team the US has ever assembled (talent wise no, but they were a great team, they had guts, character and a fantastic coach that knew how to beat the Soviets) was the miracle on ice.mcgruff10 said:
Der Untergang, I mean it's ok but you have to remember your audience (for me we are talking 13 and 14 year olds, kids). My main objective is to keep them interested, engaged and teach US History from the end of the Civil War to the present., I might show a clip from that but not the whole movie. It is just too much of the same thing and they would quickly lose interest. Plus I really don't have time to spend on a movie like that, just too many things to cover."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
If I were teaching kids about the history of the cold war I would include in my lessons my own personal experiences with having to watch test broadcast of the the "emergency broadcast system" on TV and having to listen to practice runs of screaming air raid sirens going off and being told to close our eyes if we saw a bright flash outside our window and having to go through regularly scheduled duck and cover practices at school in case of a nuclear attack as if our little school desks were going to save us from nuclear annihilation. All of that was so lovely, just so fucking lovely.
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brianlux said:If I were teaching kids about the history of the cold war I would include in my lessons my own personal experiences with having to watch test broadcast of the the "emergency broadcast system" on TV and having to listen to practice runs of screaming air raid sirens going off and being told to close our eyes if we saw a bright flash outside our window and having to go through regularly scheduled duck and cover practices at school in case of a nuclear attack as if our little school desks were going to save us from nuclear annihilation. All of that was so lovely, just so fucking lovely.
Immerse the class. Have the classes participate in the same exercises as you did. Schedule random nuke drills. If you wanted to go completely nuts... dedicate 2-3 days of 'fake news' (attack may be pending).
Of course... whether it's show a movie or get into role... inform the parents of your tactics ahead of time."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Kids are well versed in lockdown drills in today's world0
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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:brianlux said:If I were teaching kids about the history of the cold war I would include in my lessons my own personal experiences with having to watch test broadcast of the the "emergency broadcast system" on TV and having to listen to practice runs of screaming air raid sirens going off and being told to close our eyes if we saw a bright flash outside our window and having to go through regularly scheduled duck and cover practices at school in case of a nuclear attack as if our little school desks were going to save us from nuclear annihilation. All of that was so lovely, just so fucking lovely.
Immerse the class. Have the classes participate in the same exercises as you did. Schedule random nuke drills. If you wanted to go completely nuts... dedicate 2-3 days of 'fake news' (attack may be pending).
Of course... whether it's show a movie or get into role... inform the parents of your tactics ahead of time.Best not to do shit like this these days, from the teacher's perspective. If even one kid ends up traumatized by it, or even having nightmares or something, the teacher could get in shit because too many parents are idiots about such things. It's the sad but true reality of education now.This would, however, but perfectly appropriate for university students. You could go really dark with it in fact, lol.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Yeah I love teaching duck and cover. Brian do you have any memories of the Cubanbrianlux said:If I were teaching kids about the history of the cold war I would include in my lessons my own personal experiences with having to watch test broadcast of the the "emergency broadcast system" on TV and having to listen to practice runs of screaming air raid sirens going off and being told to close our eyes if we saw a bright flash outside our window and having to go through regularly scheduled duck and cover practices at school in case of a nuclear attack as if our little school desks were going to save us from nuclear annihilation. All of that was so lovely, just so fucking lovely.
missile crisis or was that before your time?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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