Sorry (not sorry), but that lamb meme made me LOL.
But really, we have a wanna be despot in office and, overall, are OK with it. No, we're not the greatest country in the world.
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I'm sure it is m2h's object lesson. The old European proverb - "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Perhaps some of the more vociferous anti-US posters could spend more time cleaning their own house before worrying about pointing out every flaw in ours. Not sure anyone has denied that we've got our share to fix. Just like most other countries. We aren't the greatest, by a long shot, by most measures. But I don't believe there is "a greatest" so the entire premise of the thread is dumb.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I'm sure it is m2h's object lesson. The old European proverb - "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Perhaps some of the more vociferous anti-US posters could spend more time cleaning their own house before worrying about pointing out every flaw in ours. Not sure anyone has denied that we've got our share to fix. Just like most other countries. We aren't the greatest, by a long shot, by most measures. But I don't believe there is "a greatest" so the entire premise of the thread is dumb.
This thread was likely started by someone who is butthurt that Trump is president...so it goes like this, "how can America be the greatest with Trump as president". And there is no such thing as the "greatest"...that's just nonsense. And people who generally pile on about the US problems also should be objective, because there is plenty to like about the US.
I'm sure it is m2h's object lesson. The old European proverb - "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Perhaps some of the more vociferous anti-US posters could spend more time cleaning their own house before worrying about pointing out every flaw in ours. Not sure anyone has denied that we've got our share to fix. Just like most other countries. We aren't the greatest, by a long shot, by most measures. But I don't believe there is "a greatest" so the entire premise of the thread is dumb.
In Sweden, cannabis has no officially recognized medical usage and medical use is not seen as an extenuating circumstance. Rather the opposite, in a case that drew some attention in the national press involving a multiple sclerosis patients, the disease, and the fact that she stated that cannabis helped her, were seen as an aggravated circumstance by the court. The court argued in the verdict that she lacked motivation to stop using the drug and therefore gave her an unconditioned jail sentence, although she was a first-time offender, she would have otherwise regularly been given a suspended sentence or a fine.[1][2]
The Medical Products Agency reported in 2008 that no drugs containing cannabinoids are available, although they can have beneficial effects on symptoms like neuralgia.[3] Cannabinoid mouth spray Sativex that is derived from cannabis plants was approved in Sweden for the treatment of spasticity due to multiple sclerosis on 22 December 2011.[4]
What kind of country makes someone go to court for their medicine...and then FINES them. Sounds like Sweden is not great either. Keep looking.
I'm sure it is m2h's object lesson. The old European proverb - "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Perhaps some of the more vociferous anti-US posters could spend more time cleaning their own house before worrying about pointing out every flaw in ours. Not sure anyone has denied that we've got our share to fix. Just like most other countries. We aren't the greatest, by a long shot, by most measures. But I don't believe there is "a greatest" so the entire premise of the thread is dumb.
This thread was likely started by someone who is butthurt that Trump is president...so it goes like this, "how can America be the greatest with Trump as president". And there is no such thing as the "greatest"...that's just nonsense. And people who generally pile on about the US problems also should be objective, because there is plenty to like about the US.
Either that or someone burned out on hearing how the US is the greatest country in the world. It burns me out and I'm an American. And my burnout has nothing to do with Trump.* It dates back to my youth (1980s or 1990s). Admittedly, post-911 flag-waving (which has not gone away) exacerbated it. I still feel like we're the only country that needs to tell everyone we're the greatest; but maybe we're not? I still feel like we're the only country that shames its own citizens for not exhibiting their believe in the country's greatness "correctly"; but maybe we're not.
I agree (and said so many times in the early days of this thread) that there is no "greatest country in the world," if for no other reason, there are just too many criteria and too many points of view. I therefore don't think there is one. But I do think American insistence that we are the greatest ultimately does us some disservice.
*Yes, I mention Trump a few posts up...I do think that our devotion to him (particularly the likely scenario that he'll be re-elected) is a mark against us...but the topic is silly to begin with.
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The greatest country in the world was when there were no countries.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I'm sure it is m2h's object lesson. The old European proverb - "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Perhaps some of the more vociferous anti-US posters could spend more time cleaning their own house before worrying about pointing out every flaw in ours. Not sure anyone has denied that we've got our share to fix. Just like most other countries. We aren't the greatest, by a long shot, by most measures. But I don't believe there is "a greatest" so the entire premise of the thread is dumb.
This thread was likely started by someone who is butthurt that Trump is president...so it goes like this, "how can America be the greatest with Trump as president". And there is no such thing as the "greatest"...that's just nonsense. And people who generally pile on about the US problems also should be objective, because there is plenty to like about the US.
Either that or someone burned out on hearing how the US is the greatest country in the world. It burns me out and I'm an American. And my burnout has nothing to do with Trump.* It dates back to my youth (1980s or 1990s). Admittedly, post-911 flag-waving (which has not gone away) exacerbated it. I still feel like we're the only country that needs to tell everyone we're the greatest; but maybe we're not? I still feel like we're the only country that shames its own citizens for not exhibiting their believe in the country's greatness "correctly"; but maybe we're not.
I agree (and said so many times in the early days of this thread) that there is no "greatest country in the world," if for no other reason, there are just too many criteria and too many points of view. I therefore don't think there is one. But I do think American insistence that we are the greatest ultimately does us some disservice.
*Yes, I mention Trump a few posts up...I do think that our devotion to him (particularly the likely scenario that he'll be re-elected) is a mark against us...but the topic is silly to begin with.
My biggest 3 pet peeves about the US are:
foreign policy warmongering lack of universal health care
Overall the good outweighs the bad. And there are far worse places to live.
Trump is the worst POTUS or maybe Busch is...but overall your Presidents never really impress me, it does not matter, democrat or republican.
I'm sure it is m2h's object lesson. The old European proverb - "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Perhaps some of the more vociferous anti-US posters could spend more time cleaning their own house before worrying about pointing out every flaw in ours. Not sure anyone has denied that we've got our share to fix. Just like most other countries. We aren't the greatest, by a long shot, by most measures. But I don't believe there is "a greatest" so the entire premise of the thread is dumb.
This thread was likely started by someone who is butthurt that Trump is president...so it goes like this, "how can America be the greatest with Trump as president". And there is no such thing as the "greatest"...that's just nonsense. And people who generally pile on about the US problems also should be objective, because there is plenty to like about the US.
Either that or someone burned out on hearing how the US is the greatest country in the world. It burns me out and I'm an American. And my burnout has nothing to do with Trump.* It dates back to my youth (1980s or 1990s). Admittedly, post-911 flag-waving (which has not gone away) exacerbated it. I still feel like we're the only country that needs to tell everyone we're the greatest; but maybe we're not? I still feel like we're the only country that shames its own citizens for not exhibiting their believe in the country's greatness "correctly"; but maybe we're not.
I agree (and said so many times in the early days of this thread) that there is no "greatest country in the world," if for no other reason, there are just too many criteria and too many points of view. I therefore don't think there is one. But I do think American insistence that we are the greatest ultimately does us some disservice.
*Yes, I mention Trump a few posts up...I do think that our devotion to him (particularly the likely scenario that he'll be re-elected) is a mark against us...but the topic is silly to begin with.
My biggest 3 pet peeves about the US are:
foreign policy warmongering lack of universal health care
Overall the good outweighs the bad. And there are far worse places to live.
Trump is the worst POTUS or maybe Busch is...but overall your Presidents never really impress me, it does not matter, democrat or republican.
I agree...and if it was "is the US great?" my tone would be different.
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Just wanted the world to know that My in laws had about fifteen people over after Easter brunch and everyone wore their shoes with zero problems.
I successfully scrolled through, what, 20? Pages of shoe banter without absorbing what everyone was talking about. I can do it again.
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So they do not mind selling weapons to Saudi Arabia so they can terrorize Yemen but are too gutless to get off the sidelines and participate fully in the biggest war ever that was taking place in their backyard. Jeesh.
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Us others, have statistics, data and common sense.
But really, we have a wanna be despot in office and, overall, are OK with it. No, we're not the greatest country in the world.
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Cannabis in Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Sweden
I agree (and said so many times in the early days of this thread) that there is no "greatest country in the world," if for no other reason, there are just too many criteria and too many points of view. I therefore don't think there is one. But I do think American insistence that we are the greatest ultimately does us some disservice.
*Yes, I mention Trump a few posts up...I do think that our devotion to him (particularly the likely scenario that he'll be re-elected) is a mark against us...but the topic is silly to begin with.
2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
foreign policy
warmongering
lack of universal health care
Overall the good outweighs the bad. And there are far worse places to live.
Trump is the worst POTUS or maybe Busch is...but overall your Presidents never really impress me, it does not matter, democrat or republican.
2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
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-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93