Knowing What You Know Now, Would You Still Support Trump for President?

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

oftenreading said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

So, who here would? Don't be afraid. If you voted for Team Trump Treason and the election were held tomorrow, would you vote for him, regardless of the opposing candidate(s)?

Lurking somewhere for sure, but don't hold your breath: the Trump supporters that have modern technology and know how to use modern technology are not going to expose themselves publically as a tool. Doing so would be tantamount to coming on here and passionately asserting Nickelback is way better than Pearl Jam.

And this is why I didn't buy the polling data that had Hillary as the surefire winner. I felt there were a lot of Trump supporters that didn't want to admit it. 

It depended on who was interpreting the polling data as to who declared her a sure fire winner. 

Well take something like fivethirtyeight.com, which was literally created to predict the outcomes of elections by using various polling data. They said it was a shoo-in for Hillary. And now they have no credibility. 

I’m not sure where you’re getting that fivethirtyeight said it was a shoo-in for Clinton. What I’ve seen there is that they gave trump a 28% chance of winning. They also pretty much just nailed the recent election. 

Ok shoo-in might not be the best wording there. I guess I meant to say they didn't give him as good a chance as I thought he had. 

But what does that even mean, “didn’t give him as good a chance as I thought he had”? They gave him an almost 30% chance of winning, based on a complex analysis of polling data. Maybe you gave him a 50% chance of winning, based on your gut. It’s irrelevant, though; the end result is binary, whether the chance was 28% or 50% or 90%. 

 

I based it on the fact that, for work, I have to drive all over Pennsylvania. Everywhere I went there were Trump signs except for Philly and Pittsburgh. And I thought well, it seems like rural Pennsylvania is all about Trump. And that being the case, why wouldn't rural Ohio be for Trump? And hell, why not all other rural places? So that's what I based it on: everything between Philly and Pittsburgh being Trump country and having a feeling that this could be the case all over the country. 

It probably is...my last trip through Wisconsin did not tell me who was running against Scott Walker because his were the only gubernatorial signs I saw.  I also saw way more signs for incumbent Tammy Baldwin's (D) opponent (R; forgot name) than Baldwin.  Walker lost and Baldwin won easily.  When driving through the sticks, most signs are for GOP but these are very few people.  Once you get to even small towns, you'll see that even out some.

I'm in red meat Indiana so signs don't tell me much.  My parents are GOP yet they hated tRump.  My mom actually wrote in "Mitch Daniels" for president when she voted.

I was more surprised at the lefties that didn't vote for Clinton.  I'll never understand that.  I think they assumed Clinton would win so they voted for Johnson or Stein to make themselves feel better.  Then they couldn't believe tRump won.

I actually even thought Johnson and Stein were subpar for their respective parties, which (particularly for Stein) should have been good for Hillary.

Regarding lefties not voting for Clinton, one of the many, many pieces of the perfect shitstorm that got Trump elected (and one of the most preventable) was the party's lack of understanding of just how hated she has been for so long.  I think there were just enough people that value "my vote" over "who wins."  I understand that philosophy but with Trump on the otherside, lament it.  The party really was out of touch with the American People.  There probably is some of that "I'll vote third because this thing's over, anyway."  But I really think the dems simply nominated a dog of a candidate.  

MayDay10 said:

Im in a liberal state

Tbh, i wouldnt dare put up any signs, stickers, etc in fear of badgering, harassment, or vandalism 

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

MayDay10 said:

Im in a liberal state

Tbh, i wouldnt dare put up any signs, stickers, etc in fear of badgering, harassment, or vandalism 

Apparently there are a LOT of places where it's hunky dory, lol. Of course they drove through practically every small town from Washington state to the Atlantic Ocean... and didn't even get close to the southern states. I don't think they went farther south than southern Illinois/Indiana on that trip.

You mention Washington State. Sure, many small, rural towns visibly and vocally supported Trump, but he didn't have a prayer here. The last time Washington State's votes went to a Republican was 1984 for Ronald Reagan. Hillary destroyed Trump here in 2016, 54.3% to 38.1%. So while there were plenty of Trump signs out, there wasn't any critical mass of support for him, despite the prevalence of yard signs. Obviously places like Idaho, the Dakotas, and the Rust Belt may have been Trump country, but those signs aren't always indicative of his level of support.

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

MayDay10 said:

Im in a liberal state

Tbh, i wouldnt dare put up any signs, stickers, etc in fear of badgering, harassment, or vandalism 

Apparently there are a LOT of places where it's hunky dory, lol. Of course they drove through practically every small town from Washington state to the Atlantic Ocean... and didn't even get close to the southern states. I don't think they went farther south than southern Illinois/Indiana on that trip.

You mention Washington State. Sure, many small, rural towns visibly and vocally supported Trump, but he didn't have a prayer here. The last time Washington State's votes went to a Republican was 1984 for Ronald Reagan. Hillary destroyed Trump here in 2016, 54.3% to 38.1%. So while there were plenty of Trump signs out, there wasn't any critical mass of support for him, despite the prevalence of yard signs. Obviously places like Idaho, the Dakotas, and the Rust Belt may have been Trump country, but those signs aren't always indicative of his level of support.

Yeah, I know how Washington votes better than any other state - I know WA as well as I know BC. All I was saying is that my parents went across America right before the election, and when they left they thought that Trump didn't have a hope in hell of winning, and when they returned they would have bet money on him winning, all just because they observed so much specific Trump support on their journey - way, way more than they expected to see - and they didn't even visit the states that REALLY like him. My point is that specific support for Trump across the nation (as opposed to people simply being ridiculously (and illogically, IMO) anti-Clinton) was higher than some like to believe.

my2hands said:

 you weren't shocked that night?

Now we are saying this wasnt a massive, shocking, wtf just happened type of upset? C'mon

In the weeks leading up she was an even bigger chalk

PJPOWER said:

If Hillary is the other option again, then yes, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Would it be fair to suggest the majority (or core) of his base is comprised of uneducated, white males?