Knowing What You Know Now, Would You Still Support Trump for President?

3days

brianlux said:

3days said:

I did not vote for Donald J Trump, but if I had, I would be disappointed based on his campaign promises/rhetoric. 

campaigning Trump said:

Much better healthcare for all, at a fraction of the cost

IMMEDIATE repeal and replace of Obamacare. "Fast, quick, your head will spin"

Economy numbers were fake in 2016

Hillary Clinton would be in jail 

Border wall would start going up so fast, "your head will spin", and Mexico will pay for it

ISIS would be defeated very quickly, or  would actually "come to the table" (whatever that means)

He would get along very well with our allies, because he gets along with anybody

Big Pharma (not middle men) would be regulated, and your drug prices would go down

Keystone Pipeline would be built with American steel

"Massive numbers" of "good" jobs would come about due to a Trump administration

"I will give you everything you've been looking for, for 30, 40, 50 years"

"I know good people, geat people. I know the best people"

Coal miners would be going back to work "in droves"

Yeah, it's rather typical for politicians to make promises they can't/don't/won't keep.  But when we ended up with a president that wasn't a politician and not a very good business man and a terrible TV personality, we end up with a guy who has plenty of hot air, but nothing to back it up.  And then you look at how ridiculous most of those promises were in the first place and you see how low we have fallen.  Clown President of 1/2 Clown Nation

That's it.

I saw an interesting piece of journalism that raised the question of whether Trump voters were actually duped. It suggested that they actually were NOT. Rather, their priorities just weren't in line with traditional voting issues. For example, they might not be voting for an improved economy, better healthcare, good diplomacy, and a healthy jobs market. Instead, their top concerns may revolve around God, guns, grits, and gravy.

It's a scary situation, and education needs to become a bigger priority. However, people have to be willing to be educated, and to accept facts.

brianlux

3days said:

brianlux said:

3days said:

I did not vote for Donald J Trump, but if I had, I would be disappointed based on his campaign promises/rhetoric. 

campaigning Trump said:

Much better healthcare for all, at a fraction of the cost

IMMEDIATE repeal and replace of Obamacare. "Fast, quick, your head will spin"

Economy numbers were fake in 2016

Hillary Clinton would be in jail 

Border wall would start going up so fast, "your head will spin", and Mexico will pay for it

ISIS would be defeated very quickly, or  would actually "come to the table" (whatever that means)

He would get along very well with our allies, because he gets along with anybody

Big Pharma (not middle men) would be regulated, and your drug prices would go down

Keystone Pipeline would be built with American steel

"Massive numbers" of "good" jobs would come about due to a Trump administration

"I will give you everything you've been looking for, for 30, 40, 50 years"

"I know good people, geat people. I know the best people"

Coal miners would be going back to work "in droves"

Yeah, it's rather typical for politicians to make promises they can't/don't/won't keep.  But when we ended up with a president that wasn't a politician and not a very good business man and a terrible TV personality, we end up with a guy who has plenty of hot air, but nothing to back it up.  And then you look at how ridiculous most of those promises were in the first place and you see how low we have fallen.  Clown President of 1/2 Clown Nation

That's it.

I saw an interesting piece of journalism that raised the question of whether Trump voters were actually duped. It suggested that they actually were NOT. Rather, their priorities just weren't in line with traditional voting issues. For example, they might not be voting for an improved economy, better healthcare, good diplomacy, and a healthy jobs market. Instead, their top concerns may revolve around God, guns, grits, and gravy.

It's a scary situation, and education needs to become a bigger priority. However, people have to be willing to be educated, and to accept facts.

"God, guns, grits, and gravy."

  Bingo!

my2hands

I've changed my mind. I've seen the light. I'm 100% pro Trump now. 

#MAGA

brianlux

my2hands said:

I've changed my mind. I've seen the light. I'm 100% pro Trump now. 

#MAGA

Hot damn! 

Halifax2TheMax

Fine people on both sides.

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

Fine people on both sides.

https://www.newsweek.com/fields-charlottesville-driver-killer-hate-crime-1068145

In June, federal prosecutors for the Western District of Virginia handed down 30 hate crime charges against Fields and described how after counter-protesters began walking up a hill Fields “rapidly accelerated through a stop sign and across a raised pedestrian mall, and drove directly into the crowd… [and] stopped only when it struck another vehicle near the intersection."Last month, Fields pleaded not guilty to all the hate crime charges but his mental state has come under scrutiny. U.S. District Court in Charlottesville Judge Joel Hoppe reportedly asked Fields if he had ever received treatment for mental illness, according to The New York Times citing a court spokesperson.Fields reportedly answered he was taking medication and he had been treated for depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety and A.D.H.D.

Halifax2TheMax

Maybe this will help you decide?

565 Migrant Children Remain Separated From Families 3 Weeks Past Judge's Deadline - HuffPost https://apple.news/AbZ5vzZwYRv2pJC7uV0aPBQ

The Juggler

Anyone? Anyone?






Bueller? Bueller?

josevolution

Halifax2TheMax said:

Maybe this will help you decide?

565 Migrant Children Remain Separated From Families 3 Weeks Past Judge's Deadline - HuffPost https://apple.news/AbZ5vzZwYRv2pJC7uV0aPBQ

Not a word from this administration on the kids he could give two shits about these immigrants and it’s a damn shame that most of the populace is not enraged about these kids !

brianlux

The Juggler said:

Anyone? Anyone?






Bueller? Bueller?

The Juggler

josevolution said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Maybe this will help you decide?

565 Migrant Children Remain Separated From Families 3 Weeks Past Judge's Deadline - HuffPost https://apple.news/AbZ5vzZwYRv2pJC7uV0aPBQ

Not a word from this administration on the kids he could give two shits about these immigrants and it’s a damn shame that most of the populace is not enraged about these kids !

60% of us are (and that's just those of us eligible to vote). 

Halifax2TheMax

With Team Trump Treason mocking a victim of sexual assault, now is the time to tell us that you’d vote for him again. Anyone?

josevolution

Halifax2TheMax said:

With Team Trump Treason mocking a victim of sexual assault, now is the time to tell us that you’d vote for him again. Anyone?

This country is dumb enough to make the same mistake over & over again , I wouldn’t bet against dumb..

OnWis97

Re-do the election today and:

• If you only let those that voted the first time vote, the results would be identical.
• If you let any eligible voter vote, it might be more interesting.

The Juggler

OnWis97 said:

Re-do the election today and:

• If you only let those that voted the first time vote, the results would be identical.
• If you let any eligible voter vote, it might be more interesting.

No. The majority of people who voted 3rd party absolutely would not do that again. Look at Trump's numbers with independents. She'd gain on her popular vote win and rake in the extra 60,000 or so in the swing states to take the election. 

If all eligible voters voted, HRC wins in a landslide. 

Go Beavers

OnWis97 said:

Re-do the election today and:

• If you only let those that voted the first time vote, the results would be identical.
• If you let any eligible voter vote, it might be more interesting.

I know you’re really stuck on this notion, but his approval rating has dropped over time, which means he would be losing voters in scenario 1. In scenario 2, high voter turnout benefits Dems, so he’d also lose there. 

The Juggler

Go Beavers said:

OnWis97 said:

Re-do the election today and:

• If you only let those that voted the first time vote, the results would be identical.
• If you let any eligible voter vote, it might be more interesting.

I know you’re really stuck on this notion, but his approval rating has dropped over time, which means he would be losing voters in scenario 1. In scenario 2, high voter turnout benefits Dems, so he’d also lose there. 

The other thing to consider when you hear about his approvals within the Republican Party is that the number of people who identify as republican has dropped over the last couple years.

Halifax2TheMax

So, who here would? Don't be afraid. If you voted for Team Trump Treason and the election were held tomorrow, would you vote for him, regardless of the opposing candidate(s)?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Halifax2TheMax said:

So, who here would? Don't be afraid. If you voted for Team Trump Treason and the election were held tomorrow, would you vote for him, regardless of the opposing candidate(s)?

Lurking somewhere for sure, but don't hold your breath: the Trump supporters that have modern technology and know how to use modern technology are not going to expose themselves publically as a tool. Doing so would be tantamount to coming on here and passionately asserting Nickelback is way better than Pearl Jam.

Ledbetterman10

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

So, who here would? Don't be afraid. If you voted for Team Trump Treason and the election were held tomorrow, would you vote for him, regardless of the opposing candidate(s)?

Lurking somewhere for sure, but don't hold your breath: the Trump supporters that have modern technology and know how to use modern technology are not going to expose themselves publically as a tool. Doing so would be tantamount to coming on here and passionately asserting Nickelback is way better than Pearl Jam.

And this is why I didn't buy the polling data that had Hillary as the surefire winner. I felt there were a lot of Trump supporters that didn't want to admit it.