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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.  Maybe someone that thinks for themselves and can communicate their thoughts outside of the realm of gifs....but maybe all swedes are similarly inept and insecure in doing so, just like all Trump voters are racist rednecks.
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  • PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent, mature strategy.
    Nice try but I never called them that. Nor did I say “all” Team Trump Treason supporters are racist and misogynistic. But keep thinking that. I’ve laid out my numbers and what I think. I own my shit. Go back and look it up.
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  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    Ad hominem fallacies make people look really small.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    Meh, i’m good with Mcgruff and his stated reasons for living with his parents briefly.  That being said, and I mean no disrespect to Mcgruff, but I probably wouldn’t have taken financial or marriage advice from him during that time either.  Sounds like he genuinely wanted out of the situation he was in and put forth a lot of effort to get out of it instead of wasting energy whining about another country’s politics as a way of making him feel better about his own ineptitude.  I respect that Mcgruff values independence and self-sufficiency.  Why do you keep trying to drag him down with you?   
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,560
    edited November 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    Meh, i’m good with Mcgruff and his stated reasons for living with his parents briefly.  That being said, and I mean no disrespect to Mcgruff, but I probably wouldn’t have taken financial or marriage advice from him during that time either.  Sounds like he genuinely wanted out of the situation he was in and put forth a lot of effort to get out of it instead of wasting energy whining about another country’s politics as a way of making him feel better about his own ineptitude.  I respect that Mcgruff values independence and self-sufficiency.  Why do you keep trying to drag him down with you?   
    Who else could you be mocking with the "living with their parents"? If not spreading bullshit lies and attacks, that is?
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    Meh, i’m good with Mcgruff and his stated reasons for living with his parents briefly.  That being said, and I mean no disrespect to Mcgruff, but I probably wouldn’t have taken financial or marriage advice from him during that time either.  Sounds like he genuinely wanted out of the situation he was in and put forth a lot of effort to get out of it instead of wasting energy whining about another country’s politics as a way of making him feel better about his own ineptitude.  I respect that Mcgruff values independence and self-sufficiency.  Why do you keep trying to drag him down with you?   
    Who else could you be mocking with the "living with their parents"? If not spreading bullshit lies and attacks, that is?
    Just the ones that think they live on such a high ground that they can throw stones at and mock others...from their parent’s house.  No need to take it personally, right? /s
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    my2hands said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
    What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism?  My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.  #closedmindedleft 
    Point taken... but here is my answer

    1. November 2016 and trying to understand what happened
    2. The fact that the Trump voters i know personally are educated, not racist, and not sexist
    3. Turning off the fear factory known as cable news
    4. Self reflection
    1. Electoral College...it's a red flag.  Russia and Jared Kushner understood laser targeted internet advertising and riling up all of middle America.   It was 2016, not 2006 or 1996. It was mostly Russia.   Steve Bannon and Brietbart didn't help. 
    2. I don't know about that.  Accepting and allowing that behavior makes you complicit.
    3. This is a good 1st step.  The Weather Channel is worse,  Local/Network News was easy enough to ignore.  Read newspapers.
    4. Externalize that into ACTION.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    and stop acting so glum.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.  Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?
    so why do you think negative political attack ads work so well? are you saying it only works on republicans? 
    I don’t think negative political adds make much difference beyond giving already hardliners a sense of validation.  That being said, I rarely watch actual broadcast TV, so I am pretty oblivious to what political commercial nonsense is being aired.  I do believe that much of today’s discourse and distrust is media driven...and purposeful.  Negativity is a positive thing when you are trying to hold on to viewers, just basic human psychology.  

    TV doesn’t matter. You’re online - you’re being influenced by political ads in a variety of different forms all day long. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.  Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?
    so why do you think negative political attack ads work so well? are you saying it only works on republicans? 
    I don’t think negative political adds make much difference beyond giving already hardliners a sense of validation.  That being said, I rarely watch actual broadcast TV, so I am pretty oblivious to what political commercial nonsense is being aired.  I do believe that much of today’s discourse and distrust is media driven...and purposeful.  Negativity is a positive thing when you are trying to hold on to viewers, just basic human psychology.  

    TV doesn’t matter. You’re online - you’re being influenced by political ads in a variety of different forms all day long. 
    True to an extent.  I actually block all “adds”, but I do get most of my political updates online.  The AMT could be considered one giant negative political add I guess, lol

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    Meh, i’m good with Mcgruff and his stated reasons for living with his parents briefly.  That being said, and I mean no disrespect to Mcgruff, but I probably wouldn’t have taken financial or marriage advice from him during that time either.  Sounds like he genuinely wanted out of the situation he was in and put forth a lot of effort to get out of it instead of wasting energy whining about another country’s politics as a way of making him feel better about his own ineptitude.  I respect that Mcgruff values independence and self-sufficiency.  Why do you keep trying to drag him down with you?   
    I love that people are always thinking about me.  ;)  And I definitely wanted out of the situation however there was no way I could have paid two mortgages/rent at once hence the reason I moved in with my parents for a short time back in 2011.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent, mature strategy.
    it really doesn't matter. at this point, being eloquent or calling them names will have the same effect: zero. it's independents and non-voters that need to be engaged. 
    ding ding ding

    Winner! This is true. I mean seriously... whoever the f**k thinks Trump is still awesome after the mountain of shitty things he's done and said has something wrong with them.

    So... let's feel free to call a spade a spade when we see it.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
    What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism?  My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.  #closedmindedleft 
    Ha!
    Maybe see up 1 post...or the other post that all trump voters are either assholes and/or idiots.  And all the other derogatory remarks about cletuses and other stereotypes.  And all my2hands was doing was pointing out the circle jerk of bs hate and the fact that it's not a good look and will not win the dems the election. 

    Has he been a 1-track mind lately, yes, but to say you don't see any of that has me seriously concerned.
    Thank you Cincy... 

    And i have been a 1-track mind here lately, purposely, because i have the same concerns. I think my points are pretty simple, really?
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    Meh, i’m good with Mcgruff and his stated reasons for living with his parents briefly.  That being said, and I mean no disrespect to Mcgruff, but I probably wouldn’t have taken financial or marriage advice from him during that time either.  Sounds like he genuinely wanted out of the situation he was in and put forth a lot of effort to get out of it instead of wasting energy whining about another country’s politics as a way of making him feel better about his own ineptitude.  I respect that Mcgruff values independence and self-sufficiency.  Why do you keep trying to drag him down with you?   
    I love that people are always thinking about me.  ;)  And I definitely wanted out of the situation however there was no way I could have paid two mortgages/rent at once hence the reason I moved in with my parents for a short time back in 2011.  
    I’d be willing to bet that you didn’t whine about not being able to get a date while living with your parents?  Let me know if I’m wrong?  You sound like a motivated individual who pulled yourself up after getting knocked down, like “most” of us around here usually do.
    You are inspiring and may have some good advise for other people that are in a low place, but are motivated to succeed....but motivation is the key.  Tell me, Mcgruff, do you think the world owes you anything?  I bet I already know the answer to that question :)

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    Meh, i’m good with Mcgruff and his stated reasons for living with his parents briefly.  That being said, and I mean no disrespect to Mcgruff, but I probably wouldn’t have taken financial or marriage advice from him during that time either.  Sounds like he genuinely wanted out of the situation he was in and put forth a lot of effort to get out of it instead of wasting energy whining about another country’s politics as a way of making him feel better about his own ineptitude.  I respect that Mcgruff values independence and self-sufficiency.  Why do you keep trying to drag him down with you?   
    I love that people are always thinking about me.  ;)  And I definitely wanted out of the situation however there was no way I could have paid two mortgages/rent at once hence the reason I moved in with my parents for a short time back in 2011.  
    Good for you for moving ahead.  I hope you ceased to express any political opinions during that short period in 2011.  Doing so would be a clear violation of common decency.   
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    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent, mature strategy.
    it really doesn't matter. at this point, being eloquent or calling them names will have the same effect: zero. it's independents and non-voters that need to be engaged. 
    ding ding ding

    Winner! This is true. I mean seriously... whoever the f**k thinks Trump is still awesome after the mountain of shitty things he's done and said has something wrong with them.

    So... let's feel free to call a spade a spade when we see it.
    Because independents and non-voters don’t get swayed by how people treat each other on either side?  I bet non-voting independents totally get motivated to vote for the side that cannot act like adults.  If you want non-voters and independents are your targeted audience, then maybe putting effort into showing them how they are valued as citizens and not “dumb for voting” for whoever would be a more...sane strategy?  But maybe you are right, name calling is “fun” after all, and most people do like “fun”.

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    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
    Maybe you are right, but the last place I’ll look for advice from is a 30 something living with their parents.  Maybe once they get their own lives sorted out, I’ll respect their decision about what “direction” to take.

    I still don't understand why you are attacking @mcguff10 all the time. 

    He should report you to Kat.
    Meh, i’m good with Mcgruff and his stated reasons for living with his parents briefly.  That being said, and I mean no disrespect to Mcgruff, but I probably wouldn’t have taken financial or marriage advice from him during that time either.  Sounds like he genuinely wanted out of the situation he was in and put forth a lot of effort to get out of it instead of wasting energy whining about another country’s politics as a way of making him feel better about his own ineptitude.  I respect that Mcgruff values independence and self-sufficiency.  Why do you keep trying to drag him down with you?   
    I love that people are always thinking about me.  ;)  And I definitely wanted out of the situation however there was no way I could have paid two mortgages/rent at once hence the reason I moved in with my parents for a short time back in 2011.  
    Good for you for moving ahead.  I hope you ceased to express any political opinions during that short period in 2011.  Doing so would be a clear violation of common decency.   
    I bet Swedish politics were pretty low on the importance spectrum, ha. I’ll let him answer for himself though.

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