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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    He's gone bananas at the media. So much venom and bile spewing from him. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025

    totally normal

    The prezzie doth protest too much, methinks


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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,450
    Dear Finland,

    We’re embarrassed and sorry. Please come back after January 21, 2021.

    Sincerely,

    The United States
    I’d include the world except Russia, China , NK 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    What if...

    he flames out (it has to happen soon)  
    DEMS turn on Pence (because, lets face it, he is INVOLVED)
    DEMS remove Pence as well?

    President Pelosi.   #ITMFA
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,087
    How long til the " you talkin to me" shirts?
    he's SOO fucking stupid. as if that question would have been for the Finnish Prez/PM. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    Fuck you Mike Pence.
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    ikiT said:
    Fuck you Mike Pence.

    +1

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749

    IRS whistleblower said to report Treasury political appointee might have tried to interfere in audit of Trump or Pence



    The Internal Revenue Service’s audit of the president’s and vice president’s tax returns is supposed to be walled off from political appointees and interference. (Susan Walsh/AP)
    October 3 at 4:25 PM

    An Internal Revenue Service official has filed a whistleblower complaint reporting that he was told at least one Treasury Department political appointee attempted to improperly interfere with the annual audit of the president or vice president’s tax returns, according to multiple people familiar with the document.

    Trump administration officials dismissed the whistleblower’s complaint as flimsy because it is based on conversations with other government officials. But congressional Democrats were alarmed by the complaint, now circulating on Capitol Hill, and flagged it to a federal judge. They are also discussing whether to make it public.

    The complaint has come amid the escalating legal battle between the Treasury Department and House Democrats over the release of President Trump’s tax returns. Part of that inquiry from Democrats is over how the IRS conducts its annual audit of the president and vice president’s tax returns. That process is supposed to be walled off from political appointees and interference.

    The existence of a whistleblower complaint was revealed in a court filing several months ago, but little about it has become public. It has not been revealed previously that the complaint pertained to allegations of interference in the audit process by at least one Treasury Department official. It has also not been previously revealed that the whistleblower is a career IRS official.

    The whistleblower’s account focuses on the integrity of the government’s system for auditing the president and vice president’s tax returns.

    President Trump has broken decades of precedent by refusing to publicly release his tax returns. Democrats filed a lawsuit earlier this year demanding the disclosure of those filings, invoking a federal law designed to give Congress access to any tax return.

    Trump says he is not going to share his tax returns
    President Trump told reporters April 10 that there is no law regarding his tax returns and that he will not share them while under audit. (The Washington Post)

    The details of the IRS complaint follow news of a separate, explosive whistleblower complaint filed in August by a member of the intelligence community. That complaint revealed Trump’s request of Ukranian leaders to investigate former vice president Joe Biden, a political rival. It has spurred an impeachment probe on Capitol Hill.

    The IRS complaint has received less attention but has divided government officials.

    Two administration officials have described the complaint as hearsay and suggested it was politically motivated, but they spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter. Democrats who have reviewed it regard it as a deeply significant allegation that, if true, suggests that political appointees may have tried to interfere with the government audit process, which was set up to be insulated from political pressures.

    Key parts of the complaint remain under wraps in part because of strict privacy laws that prevent the disclosure of any details related to the filing of tax returns.

    People who described the complaint spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Mnuchin says releasing individual tax returns to Congress 'dangerous'
    Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin defended May 15 his refusal to release President Trump's tax returns, saying the measure could "weaponize the IRS." (Reuters)

    Rep. Richard E. Neal (D-Mass.), the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee who received the whistleblower’s complaint in July, said in court filings this summer that the complaint contains credible evidence of “potential ‘inappropriate efforts to influence’ the audit program.” Neal has also said the complaint raises “serious and urgent concerns.”

    The whistleblower, a career official at the IRS, confirmed in an interview with The Washington Post this week that he had filed a formal complaint and sent it to the tax committee chairs in both houses of Congress, including Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), and to the Treasury Department Inspector General for Tax Administration on July 29.

    The whistleblower would not comment on the substance of the complaint itself but focused on the importance of protecting those who come forward to disclose problems in government.

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749

    [Confidential draft IRS memo says tax returns must be given to Congress unless president invokes executive privilege]

    Trump has closely guarded any details of his tax returns, refusing to release them during his presidential campaign and throughout his presidency. He has given a variety of reasons for refusing to release the returns, often saying they are under audit and therefore should remain private. Vice President Pence also has not made public any of his recent tax returns.

    Neal has not revealed whether the whistleblower complaint is about Trump or Pence, but he said in an August court filing that the allegations “cast doubt” on the Trump administration’s contention that there is no reason for concern that IRS employees could face interference when auditing a president’s tax returns.

    It is very unusual for political appointees at Treasury to ask IRS career staff about the status of an individual’s audit, according to legal experts and former IRS officials.

    “Nobody at the Treasury Department should be calling to find out the status of anybody’s audit,” said John Koskinen, who served as IRS commissioner under both Trump and President Barack Obama. “For a Treasury official to call a career person — even just for information — seems to me highly inappropriate, even if it’s just checking in on how it’s going.” 

    The Post has been unable to verify the allegation in the whistleblower’s complaint of improper communication between Treasury and IRS on the tax audit program. 

    A spokesman for the Treasury Department did not comment on details of the complaint. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin previously told Neal he forwarded the complaint to the inspector general’s office.

    A spokesman for Neal refused to share any details about the substance of the complaint, citing taxpayer protection rules. Michael Zona, a spokesman for Grassley, also declined to comment, saying the senator does not discuss such confidential complaints.

    James Jackson, a deputy inspector general at the Treasury Department, said in September when asked about the whistleblower complaint at a congressional hearing: “We can’t confirm or deny that we may or may not be doing anything. I can tell you, though, that anytime we get any kind of allegation in this world, in this realm, we investigate it aggressively.” 

    Jackson added: “We are not aware of any misconduct.”

    In his interview with The Post, the whistleblower dismissed the contention of critics that the complaint was uncorroborated.

    “That’s what investigations are for,” he said. 

    He also denied his action was politically motivated.

    “Anyone who knows me knows I would not hesitate to do the same, as would most career IRS public servants, regardless of any political preference,” he said. “I take very seriously the duty of career civil servants to act with integrity and perform our duties impartially, even at the risk that someone will make a charge of bias.”

    The whistleblower also castigated public officials who he said were making federal employees fearful of reporting wrongdoing. Trump has in recent days said he wants to know the identity of the whistleblower in the Ukraine case.

    “I steadfastly refuse to discuss the substance or details of the complaint, but I have some legitimate concerns about reckless statements being made about whistleblowers,” he said. He said such statements “attack the messenger when the focus should be on the facts that were presented. I am concerned also by the relative silence of people who should be repudiating these dangerous attacks in the strongest terms.” 

    Neal told Bloomberg he is consulting with legal counsel about whether to release the whistleblower complaint. 

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749

    The chairman has “been almost entirely silent about the whole matter” related to the whistleblower in private meetings of the Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee, according to one lawmaker who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

    Legal experts and former government officials expressed alarm at the prospect of interference from political appointees with audits conducted by career IRS staff.

    The tax returns of the president and vice president must be kept “at all times” in an orange folder and locked in a secure drawer or cabinet when the appointed IRS examiner is not with the documents, according to the IRS’s manual.

    “It’s very important that enforcement matters, including audits, be handled independently by the IRS,” said Mark W. Everson, who served as IRS commissioner under President George W. Bush.

    The mandatory audit program refers only to the audit of the president and vice president, said Mark E. Matthews, who was a deputy IRS commissioner under Bush and is now a partner at the firm Caplin & Drysdale. Those audits are viewed only by a small number of senior career IRS staff, Matthews said.

    The president’s tax returns have already produced divisions between political appointees in the Treasury Department and officials at the IRS. In May, The Post obtained a 10-page memo written by an attorney in the IRS Office of Legal Counsel finding the administration had to turn over a president’s returns if requested by Congress, unless the president invokes executive privilege. The Treasury Department has denied Congress’s request for the returns, but the White House has not invoked executive privilege.

    In April, Treasury Secretary Mnuchin also revealed department attorneys consulted with the White House general counsel’s office about the potential release of Trump’s tax returns before they were formally requested by House Democrats. 

    Mnuchin, who said he was not involved in those conversations, said the communication between Treasury and White House attorneys was “informational” and that Treasury officials did not ask the White House for permission about whether to release the returns.

    The whistleblower said that Treasury investigators, and presumably the inspector general, were aware of his complaint. “I brought my concerns to my supervisors, who advised me to report the matter to the appropriate people with investigatory authority,” he told The Post. 

    David Barnes, a spokesman for the Treasury inspector general, declined to comment.

    The whistleblower complaint was first disclosed by Neal as part of his lawsuit against the Trump administration seeking six years of the president’s tax returns, which the administration refused to turn over despite a 1924 law explicitly giving Congress the authority to obtain them.

    Neal told a federal court this summer that House Democrats had received an unsolicited message from a federal employee “setting forth credible allegations of ‘evidence of possible misconduct’ — specifically, potential ‘inappropriate efforts to influence’ the mandatory audit program.”


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,130
    Crazy ass fucking day.  GOP can't argue about this whistleblower now...tRump admitted it and asked for China's help on TV
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,341
    he wont be told no.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    they should ring this MF up.  Admitting crime out in the open?  Come on bro.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    Did you order the code red?
    You're goddamn right I did!!

    Seems like a fine defense.
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    How long til the " you talkin to me" shirts?
    he's SOO fucking stupid. as if that question would have been for the Finnish Prez/PM. 
    I laughed when I saw that at his press conference. Travis Bickle wannabe. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,749
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    OMG, he quotes Limbaugh and Hannity during that press conference as though they are impressive defenders of his honour. And those were the only two names he could come up with. :lol:
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    just saw one of his press conferences from overnight Australia time. He's looking and sounding more and more unhinged. 
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    The new White Power salute. Want to bet Moscow Mitchy Baby knows it? Lindsay “my spine is flimsy” Graham? How about Tom “I’m A Warrior, Hear Me Roar” Cotton? Surely he knows it? Anyone else?


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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    he was double fisting the okey doke here


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    ikiT said:
    he was double fisting the okey doke here


    Watch it, the crazies will start saying that he was flashing "white Power" signs.  I'm waiting for it to be a reality soon though...
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,154
    ikiT said:
    he was double fisting the okey doke here


    Watch it, the crazies will start saying that he was flashing "white Power" signs.  I'm waiting for it to be a reality soon though...
    I’m sure they will. They can’t ever seem to get out of their own way. 

    If the dems fuck this up......
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    Get ready for some totally legit "job numbers" today.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,644
    ikiT said:
    he was double fisting the okey doke here


    Watch it, the crazies will start saying that he was flashing "white Power" signs.  I'm waiting for it to be a reality soon though...
    I’m sure they will. They can’t ever seem to get out of their own way. 

    If the dems fuck this up......


    I'm pretty sure they will which is why I resist the 'walls are closing in' talk etc. etc.

    I have zero faith in anyone to get this right & think we're just going to get dragged further down the shitter. It's hard not to be pessimistic about it considering the way the last few years have gone.


    And if they somehow ARE successful in removing this obvious crook from office, get ready for the domestic terror attacks, because they won't be far behind.

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,130
    tRump is tweeting "CASE CLOSED" this morning....he won't go quietly

    Anyone with an ounce of ethics would resign.  But I guess anyone with an ounce wouldn't have done that shit to begin with.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,644
    tRump is tweeting "CASE CLOSED" this morning....he won't go quietly

    Anyone with an ounce of ethics would resign.  But I guess anyone with an ounce wouldn't have done that shit to begin with.

    Ethics, along with shame, were removed from the equation well before this prick was even elected.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    tRump is tweeting "CASE CLOSED" this morning....he won't go quietly

    Anyone with an ounce of ethics would resign.  But I guess anyone with an ounce wouldn't have done that shit to begin with.

    Ethics, along with shame, were removed from the equation well before this prick was even elected.
    I don't believe that. Obama was an ethical man who had shame.

    In my lifetime we've never seen anything like Trump.
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    He must be snorting a lot of Adderall.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,644
    dignin said:
    tRump is tweeting "CASE CLOSED" this morning....he won't go quietly

    Anyone with an ounce of ethics would resign.  But I guess anyone with an ounce wouldn't have done that shit to begin with.

    Ethics, along with shame, were removed from the equation well before this prick was even elected.
    I don't believe that. Obama was an ethical man who had shame.

    In my lifetime we've never seen anything like Trump.


    I was referring to the GOP more than anyone / anything else.

    I agree with you about Obama.

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