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  • josevolution
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited November 2018
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
  • my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
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  • OnWis97
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    my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
    What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism?  My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.  #closedmindedleft 
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  • my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 

    Sorry, but you can say what you want rushing to the defence of the base. If you are not racist or a moron and you still back Trump... then you are morally bankrupt.

    There's no getting around the fact that you have some really inferior quality existing within you if that is your preferred candidate.

    (I use 'you' in the general sense- obviously not directing it personally at you)
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
    What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism?  My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.  #closedmindedleft 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
    What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism?  My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.  #closedmindedleft 
    Ha!
    Maybe see up 1 post...or the other post that all trump voters are either assholes and/or idiots.  And all the other derogatory remarks about cletuses and other stereotypes.  And all my2hands was doing was pointing out the circle jerk of bs hate and the fact that it's not a good look and will not win the dems the election. 

    Has he been a 1-track mind lately, yes, but to say you don't see any of that has me seriously concerned.
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  • I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
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  • I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    You just want a label for everyone don't ya? 
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  • cincybearcat
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    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    You just want a label for everyone don't ya? 
    Good point.  Was trying to think of an answer.  All I came up with voters you want to flip in the next election if you want to win.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
    What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism?  My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.  #closedmindedleft 
    Ha!
    Maybe see up 1 post...or the other post that all trump voters are either assholes and/or idiots.  And all the other derogatory remarks about cletuses and other stereotypes.  And all my2hands was doing was pointing out the circle jerk of bs hate and the fact that it's not a good look and will not win the dems the election. 

    Has he been a 1-track mind lately, yes, but to say you don't see any of that has me seriously concerned.
    It's difficult to understand or defend someone's voting FOR Trump.  Vote third party if you don't like D policies.  Or don't vote.  But when you vote for him, you are implicitly supporting him, his policies AND his approach to politics.  Does that make them all racist or ignorant? No, but it certainly means that there's a level of condoning the behavior and moral apathy.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    I am doing with my opinion right now as I like: I'm expressing it.

    If you don't like what I'm saying... why don't you tell me to sit down like your president did to the reporters that challenged him yesterday?
     I don't agree with what you are saying and you have no desire to see things in any way than the way that you wish to see them. I have just come to a point where I find no fruitful way forward in this particular conversation.

    You can sit, you can stand, you can do what you wish.

    I am not like Trump in any way. 


    Speaking of seeing things the way you wish to see them...

    I never said you were like Trump. At any point. I'm saying you (you as in your country) asked for him and you got him.
    You told me to tell you to sit down like THE president said to reporters yesterday. I will not do that, I am not like Trump. And I went to college for journalism so I find his attitude towards the press to be disgusting as a matter of civics, manners and professionally. We disagree. I enjoy debate. I do not enjoy beating dead horses. 
    Come on.

    That was a little tongue in cheek humour. 

    I'm particularly testy today for which I'm sorry. A big mass shooting, a f**king ridiculous press conference, and some really cold weather has me acting like an ass.
    I can’t even imagine what you crazy ass canucks do all day in your sub zero weather. It was 54 degrees here today and I took a nice joG in shorts and a t shirt. At 54 degrees you guys are probably breaking out the bikinis and sun screen. 
    I actually don't know either - I haven't even put on a coat yet this season. Sometimes I feel a little left out of the Canadian experience, having no connection at all to all this complaining about living with freezing cold weather. I actually to have to purposefully go seek it out most of the time, lol.
    Forgive for asking since I am a teacher and should everything and anything about the world but Vancouver winters are pretty mild?
    Yes. It's quite an event if it snows, and even just a couple centimetres of snow causes chaos on the roads. If we get a really rare heavier snowfall, like more than a few inches, shit gets hairy. Public transit ceases to adequately function, people get stranded on the roads, etc. :lol: We are complete idiots when it comes to winter driving because we never have to do it normally, and most people don't bother investing in winter tires because there isn't enough snow and ice to justify the cost and bother. I'd say that we get snow perhaps a few times a winter, but it usually melts pretty fast. It is actually fairly rare for the temperatures to go below freezing during the day - the average temps in the winter are more like 4C - 8C (39F - 45F). Of course we get the rare cold snap - like clear and sunny and -5C or whatever, but it's considered abnormal whenever it happens, and it's kind of a big deal. I remember one year, maybe in 2007, that this one night when I went to a Canucks game it was -19C with the wind chill!!! That's the coldest it's even been here in my lifetime, and we almost died going home. :lol:
    we winnipeggers laugh at the rest of the country when they have to deal with a little snow and cold. Toronto calls in the fucking military when they get 3 centimeters. we hook up the dogsled and go for coffee. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent, mature strategy.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,560
    edited November 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Edved82 said:
    This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool. 

    Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
    Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.
    Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.
    Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional women

    Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure. 
    What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism?  My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.  #closedmindedleft 
    Point taken... but here is my answer

    1. November 2016 and trying to understand what happened
    2. The fact that the Trump voters i know personally are educated, not racist, and not sexist
    3. Turning off the fear factory known as cable news
    4. Self reflection
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent, mature strategy.
    it really doesn't matter. at this point, being eloquent or calling them names will have the same effect: zero. it's independents and non-voters that need to be engaged. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.  Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.  Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?
    so why do you think negative political attack ads work so well? are you saying it only works on republicans? 
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  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.
    You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
    I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis.  That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division.  There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.
    They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.

    Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb?


    Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy.  I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.  Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?
    so why do you think negative political attack ads work so well? are you saying it only works on republicans? 
    I don’t think negative political adds make much difference beyond giving already hardliners a sense of validation.  That being said, I rarely watch actual broadcast TV, so I am pretty oblivious to what political commercial nonsense is being aired.  I do believe that much of today’s discourse and distrust is media driven...and purposeful.  Negativity is a positive thing when you are trying to hold on to viewers, just basic human psychology.  
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