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 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.0
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 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.
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 What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism? My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville. #closedmindedleftmy2hands said:
 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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            my2hands said:
 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.
 Sorry, but you can say what you want rushing to the defence of the base. If you are not racist or a moron and you still back Trump... then you are morally bankrupt.
 There's no getting around the fact that you have some really inferior quality existing within you if that is your preferred candidate.
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 Ha!OnWis97 said:
 What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism? My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville. #closedmindedleftmy2hands said:
 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.0
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 Maybe see up 1 post...or the other post that all trump voters are either assholes and/or idiots. And all the other derogatory remarks about cletuses and other stereotypes. And all my2hands was doing was pointing out the circle jerk of bs hate and the fact that it's not a good look and will not win the dems the election.mrussel1 said:
 Ha!OnWis97 said:
 What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism? My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville. #closedmindedleftmy2hands said:
 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.
 Has he been a 1-track mind lately, yes, but to say you don't see any of that has me seriously concerned.hippiemom = goodness0
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            I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 You just want a label for everyone don't ya?Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
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 Good point. Was trying to think of an answer. All I came up with voters you want to flip in the next election if you want to win.Ledbetterman10 said:
 You just want a label for everyone don't ya?Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?hippiemom = goodness0
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 It's difficult to understand or defend someone's voting FOR Trump. Vote third party if you don't like D policies. Or don't vote. But when you vote for him, you are implicitly supporting him, his policies AND his approach to politics. Does that make them all racist or ignorant? No, but it certainly means that there's a level of condoning the behavior and moral apathy.cincybearcat said:
 Maybe see up 1 post...or the other post that all trump voters are either assholes and/or idiots. And all the other derogatory remarks about cletuses and other stereotypes. And all my2hands was doing was pointing out the circle jerk of bs hate and the fact that it's not a good look and will not win the dems the election.mrussel1 said:
 Ha!OnWis97 said:
 What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism? My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville. #closedmindedleftmy2hands said:
 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.
 Has he been a 1-track mind lately, yes, but to say you don't see any of that has me seriously concerned.0
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 we winnipeggers laugh at the rest of the country when they have to deal with a little snow and cold. Toronto calls in the fucking military when they get 3 centimeters. we hook up the dogsled and go for coffee.PJ_Soul said:
 Yes. It's quite an event if it snows, and even just a couple centimetres of snow causes chaos on the roads. If we get a really rare heavier snowfall, like more than a few inches, shit gets hairy. Public transit ceases to adequately function, people get stranded on the roads, etc.mcgruff10 said:
 Forgive for asking since I am a teacher and should everything and anything about the world but Vancouver winters are pretty mild?PJ_Soul said:
 I actually don't know either - I haven't even put on a coat yet this season. Sometimes I feel a little left out of the Canadian experience, having no connection at all to all this complaining about living with freezing cold weather. I actually to have to purposefully go seek it out most of the time, lol.mcgruff10 said:
 I can’t even imagine what you crazy ass canucks do all day in your sub zero weather. It was 54 degrees here today and I took a nice joG in shorts and a t shirt. At 54 degrees you guys are probably breaking out the bikinis and sun screen.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 Come on.njnancy said:
 You told me to tell you to sit down like THE president said to reporters yesterday. I will not do that, I am not like Trump. And I went to college for journalism so I find his attitude towards the press to be disgusting as a matter of civics, manners and professionally. We disagree. I enjoy debate. I do not enjoy beating dead horses.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 Speaking of seeing things the way you wish to see them...njnancy said:
 I don't agree with what you are saying and you have no desire to see things in any way than the way that you wish to see them. I have just come to a point where I find no fruitful way forward in this particular conversation.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I am doing with my opinion right now as I like: I'm expressing it.
 If you don't like what I'm saying... why don't you tell me to sit down like your president did to the reporters that challenged him yesterday?
 You can sit, you can stand, you can do what you wish.
 I am not like Trump in any way.
 I never said you were like Trump. At any point. I'm saying you (you as in your country) asked for him and you got him.
 That was a little tongue in cheek humour.
 I'm particularly testy today for which I'm sorry. A big mass shooting, a f**king ridiculous press conference, and some really cold weather has me acting like an ass. We are complete idiots when it comes to winter driving because we never have to do it normally, and most people don't bother investing in winter tires because there isn't enough snow and ice to justify the cost and bother. I'd say that we get snow perhaps a few times a winter, but it usually melts pretty fast. It is actually fairly rare for the temperatures to go below freezing during the day - the average temps in the winter are more like 4C - 8C (39F - 45F). Of course we get the rare cold snap - like clear and sunny and -5C or whatever, but it's considered abnormal whenever it happens, and it's kind of a big deal. I remember one year, maybe in 2007, that this one night when I went to a Canucks game it was -19C with the wind chill!!! That's the coldest it's even been here in my lifetime, and we almost died going home. We are complete idiots when it comes to winter driving because we never have to do it normally, and most people don't bother investing in winter tires because there isn't enough snow and ice to justify the cost and bother. I'd say that we get snow perhaps a few times a winter, but it usually melts pretty fast. It is actually fairly rare for the temperatures to go below freezing during the day - the average temps in the winter are more like 4C - 8C (39F - 45F). Of course we get the rare cold snap - like clear and sunny and -5C or whatever, but it's considered abnormal whenever it happens, and it's kind of a big deal. I remember one year, maybe in 2007, that this one night when I went to a Canucks game it was -19C with the wind chill!!! That's the coldest it's even been here in my lifetime, and we almost died going home. Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis. That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division. There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent, mature strategy.Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?0
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 They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.PJPOWER said:
 I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis. That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division. There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
 Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb? 
 "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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 Point taken... but here is my answerOnWis97 said:
 What was it that woke you to the rampant elitism? My guess is was the knee-jerk screams of “racism” when Trump was trying to bring us together by pointing out that there are very fine people in both sides of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville. #closedmindedleftmy2hands said:
 Of course there are racists and misogynistic people out there... but you're saying now that everybody that supports or approves of Trump is racist and misogynistic, all 40% of his approval rating is racist & sexist? That's just flat out ridiculous. Do you even know anybody that voted for Trump or that supports him? I do, and they are definitely not racist or misogynistic, and three that i know off the top of my head are actually educated professional womenHalifax2TheMax said:
 Those are the racist misogynistic supporters that I’ve been told, repeatedly, don’t exist.Edved82 said:
 Somewhere around 37-40% of the American electorate think he's doing a good job. Amazing, but there you go.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This in and of itself should be enough to label him "unfit for office". He's a tool.Bentleyspop said:
 Anyone on here still stupid enough to stand by him?
 Is it possible to paint with a broader brush? lol I'm not sure.
 1. November 2016 and trying to understand what happened
 2. The fact that the Trump voters i know personally are educated, not racist, and not sexist
 3. Turning off the fear factory known as cable news
 4. Self reflection
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 it really doesn't matter. at this point, being eloquent or calling them names will have the same effect: zero. it's independents and non-voters that need to be engaged.PJPOWER said:
 I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis. That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division. There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent, mature strategy.Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy. I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb. Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?Spiritual_Chaos said:
 They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.PJPOWER said:
 I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis. That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division. There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
 Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb? 
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 so why do you think negative political attack ads work so well? are you saying it only works on republicans?PJPOWER said:
 Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy. I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb. Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?Spiritual_Chaos said:
 They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.PJPOWER said:
 I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis. That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division. There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
 Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb? Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 You don't seem to a good job by yourselves in your defacto-banana-republic, so maybe some outside help could be beneficial? In time maybe a term like "gerrymandering" won't need to exist anymore.PJPOWER said:
 Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy. I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.PJPOWER said:
 I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis. That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division. There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
 Why should you have to lure them out with nice words and hugs? Are you saying they are that dumb? "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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 I don’t think negative political adds make much difference beyond giving already hardliners a sense of validation. That being said, I rarely watch actual broadcast TV, so I am pretty oblivious to what political commercial nonsense is being aired. I do believe that much of today’s discourse and distrust is media driven...and purposeful. Negativity is a positive thing when you are trying to hold on to viewers, just basic human psychology.HughFreakingDillon said:
 so why do you think negative political attack ads work so well? are you saying it only works on republicans?PJPOWER said:
 Nope, as I said, the racist name calling is obviously the best strategy. I would only call Swedes that think they should have a say in American politics dumb. Is that how your mom lures you out of bed in the morning/mid afternoon?Spiritual_Chaos said:
 They should consider a not-trump view because it is sane, rational and correct.PJPOWER said:
 I think you should keep calling them one toothed Cletus white supremest neo-nazis. That’s definitely a winning strategy for convincing them to consider your point of view and narrow the division. There is no way a dem could lose with a base using such an eloquent strategy.Halifax2TheMax said:I’ll ask again, since Team Trump Treason’s base is a lost cause, how or what should we call the former Obama supporters, independents and moderate repubs who voted for him, particularly if they continue to support him after these past two years?
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