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And I know why Team Trump Treason won. He cheated. As did Bush, twice. And Rick Scott is about to do.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Like Team Trump Treason, going with my gut. Question becomes, if they don't release the report, what are they hiding? I mean if,mrussel1 said:
How do you know this? Or speculation?Halifax2TheMax said:Team Mueller writing his final report as we speak. Guess he didn't need Team Trump Treason's answers to his questions unless he's recommending indictment. My guess is, is that the report might be released to Rosenstein on Monday or Tuesday (isn't there a big parade in Washington on Monday with tanks and jets and stuff?) so we can salivate all next week as to what it says. Figure the leaks will come from the Justice Department. Just in time for the holidays and conversation around the table and tv.
"There was no collusion."
"I don't know any Russians."
"I have nothing to hide."
"I'll sit down and talk with anyone."
"We do everything by the book."
"Only the guilty plea the fifth."
Why wouldn't you want the full report to be released and be totally vindicated?
Why would Whitaker let that report be released.
The only hope is the investigators pull a Snowdon thumb drive removal and get subpoenaed by the House in Jan.
Democracy here is fading fast Max.0 -
Why wouldn’t he? What are they hiding? And if you don’t think the Team Mueller report won’t come out, despite the nefarious maneuvering, you’re missing the outrage that’s already gelling. You gelling?Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Like Team Trump Treason, going with my gut. Question becomes, if they don't release the report, what are they hiding? I mean if,mrussel1 said:
How do you know this? Or speculation?Halifax2TheMax said:Team Mueller writing his final report as we speak. Guess he didn't need Team Trump Treason's answers to his questions unless he's recommending indictment. My guess is, is that the report might be released to Rosenstein on Monday or Tuesday (isn't there a big parade in Washington on Monday with tanks and jets and stuff?) so we can salivate all next week as to what it says. Figure the leaks will come from the Justice Department. Just in time for the holidays and conversation around the table and tv.
"There was no collusion."
"I don't know any Russians."
"I have nothing to hide."
"I'll sit down and talk with anyone."
"We do everything by the book."
"Only the guilty plea the fifth."
Why wouldn't you want the full report to be released and be totally vindicated?
Why would Whitaker let that report be released.
The only hope is the investigators pull a Snowdon thumb drive removal and get subpoenaed by the House in Jan.
Democracy here is fading fast Max.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Incorrect... the union household support numbers arent looking at total number of union votes, which would be affected by the assault you mention, it is looking strictly at the % of support in union households, which dropped dramatically... under your scenario the support % should have likely gone up because there was simply less union households and as you said, they have been under attack.Halifax2TheMax said:
Gee, what else happened in 2016? And what else happened from 2008 to 2016? Hmmm, let me check my calculator. Oh, it says the black guy didn’t run in 2016. Oh, what else? Let me call the ACLU. Guess what they said? Repub held states, Wisconsin under walker, Ohio under Kasich and other repub states waged war against unions. As did businesses. So, union membership nationwide dropped, as it has since Raygun (remember PATCO?) If your union membership remained static from 2008 to 2016 and what you posit were true, then I’d get it. But it’s not so simple. Join us.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
2nd point... if less blacks voted in 2016 simply because the black guy wasnt on the ballot, isn't that a form of voter racism? Again, considering the historical context I'm not gonna go there, but i think a lot of people would argue the point. People love to blame racist whites for Trump winning, but nobody wants to point out the obvious that blacks simply didnt go to the polls because Hillary was white and resulted in the Trump win? Why is that? Nobody on msnbc talking about that? Doesnt fit the media sensationalist narrative of white racism and bigotry? I will repeat this for everyone, black voter turnout DROPPED 7%, in an election with record turnout, and HRC lost 2 states by less than 1% combined...
Trump didn't cheat, Hillary lost. It's plain as day in the data
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Nope.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
You’re just cherry picking things you want to respond to and are not really wanting to have an honest discussion about this.
I’m not a member of the democrat party and I never said Trump won solely because of the things you’re saying here. Let me know when you want to have a real discussion about this.
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I've been a Democrat since you were a registered Republican... minorities and union labor have been the bread and butter base of the party for decades... that support dropped significantly in 2016. It's really not that complicated. I'm not interested in discussing 2018, that was predictable.The Juggler said:
Nope.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
You’re just cherry picking things you want to respond to and are not really wanting to have an honest discussion about this.
I’m not a member of the democrat party and I never said Trump won solely because of the things you’re saying here. Let me know when you want to have a real discussion about this.
Thanks.
If blacks and union households dont show up in 2020, they will lose in the midwest again and lose the electoral college AGAIN, just as BS said. And i dont care how many suburban white women with a college degree vote, it wont matter if the historical base doesnt show up.
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You may be overthinking ALL of IT.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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The election hinges on 66,000 votes in 3 key states. 6-7MM previous Obama voters went Team Trump Treason or “not Hillary” based on fear of the “other” and immigrants. Hillary won 3MM more popular votes. It’s 2018 and the only one around here talking about Hillary is you. Get out of 2016.my2hands said:
Incorrect... the union household support numbers arent looking at total number of union votes, which would be affected by the assault you mention, it is looking strictly at the % of support in union households, which dropped dramatically... under your scenario the support % should have likely gone up because there was simply less union households and as you said, they have been under attack.Halifax2TheMax said:
Gee, what else happened in 2016? And what else happened from 2008 to 2016? Hmmm, let me check my calculator. Oh, it says the black guy didn’t run in 2016. Oh, what else? Let me call the ACLU. Guess what they said? Repub held states, Wisconsin under walker, Ohio under Kasich and other repub states waged war against unions. As did businesses. So, union membership nationwide dropped, as it has since Raygun (remember PATCO?) If your union membership remained static from 2008 to 2016 and what you posit were true, then I’d get it. But it’s not so simple. Join us.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
2nd point... if less blacks voted in 2016 simply because the black guy wasnt on the ballot, isn't that a form of voter racism? Again, considering the historical context I'm not gonna go there, but i think a lot of people would argue the point. People love to blame racist whites for Trump winning, but nobody wants to point out the obvious that blacks simply didnt go to the polls because Hillary was white and resulted in the Trump win? Why is that? Nobody on msnbc talking about that? Doesnt fit the media sensationalist narrative of white racism and bigotry? I will repeat this for everyone, black voter turnout DROPPED 7%, in an election with record turnout, and HRC lost 2 states by less than 1% combined...
Trump didn't cheat, Hillary lost. It's plain as day in the data
See why we still have to talk about 2016?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Not discussing what is happening right now appears to be your blind spot that you’re not willing to improve upon. Let me know when you’re ready to have a talk. Until then, this all gibberish.my2hands said:
I've been a Democrat since you were a registered Republican... minorities and union labor have been the bread and butter base of the party for decades... that support dropped significantly in 2016. It's really not that complicated. I'm not interested in discussing 2018, that was predictable.The Juggler said:
Nope.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
You’re just cherry picking things you want to respond to and are not really wanting to have an honest discussion about this.
I’m not a member of the democrat party and I never said Trump won solely because of the things you’re saying here. Let me know when you want to have a real discussion about this.
Thanks.
If blacks and union households dont show up in 2020, they will lose in the midwest again and lose the electoral college AGAIN, just as BS said. And i dont care how many suburban white women with a college degree vote, it wont matter if the historical base doesnt show up.www.myspace.com0 -
Call the DNC.my2hands said:
I've been a Democrat since you were a registered Republican... minorities and union labor have been the bread and butter base of the party for decades... that support dropped significantly in 2016. It's really not that complicated. I'm not interested in discussing 2018, that was predictable.The Juggler said:
Nope.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
You’re just cherry picking things you want to respond to and are not really wanting to have an honest discussion about this.
I’m not a member of the democrat party and I never said Trump won solely because of the things you’re saying here. Let me know when you want to have a real discussion about this.
Thanks.
If blacks and union households dont show up in 2020, they will lose in the midwest again and lose the electoral college AGAIN, just as BS said. And i dont care how many suburban white women with a college degree vote, it wont matter if the historical base doesnt show up.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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So black turnout is down because a black guy isn't on the ballot. And you ask if that's voter racism? Are you saying that blacks are racist against themselves? What in the wide world of sports are you even saying? The coalition has changed. Union households are dwindling. Older union members have gravitated to anti-free trade. White collar, younger people are overwhelmingly liberal. 30 years ago they were conservative. Have you given a lick of thought about how that will affect the Republicans next cycle, and the next 2 cycles after that?my2hands said:
I've been a Democrat since you were a registered Republican... minorities and union labor have been the bread and butter base of the party for decades... that support dropped significantly in 2016. It's really not that complicated. I'm not interested in discussing 2018, that was predictable.The Juggler said:
Nope.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
You’re just cherry picking things you want to respond to and are not really wanting to have an honest discussion about this.
I’m not a member of the democrat party and I never said Trump won solely because of the things you’re saying here. Let me know when you want to have a real discussion about this.
Thanks.
If blacks and union households dont show up in 2020, they will lose in the midwest again and lose the electoral college AGAIN, just as BS said. And i dont care how many suburban white women with a college degree vote, it wont matter if the historical base doesnt show up.
Someone earlier got it right.. you want to re-litigate 2016 but not interested in discussing how 2018 changed that narrative. Okay, great. If you want to have a history discussion on elections, I'm all about that on a new thread. I'd like to kick if off by discussing the Corrupt Bargain. Jackson got shafted, you know it, I know it, but the libs here just can't admit it. DISCUSS!
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I’d be willing to bet black turnout was higher in FL and GA the other day. Wonder why? Never mind because I see the Dems energized and running solid candidates. There’s no reason why they can’t run the same at the top of the ticket in 2020. But I head Hillary has all the super delegates locked up and the major money donors committed.mrussel1 said:
So black turnout is down because a black guy isn't on the ballot. And you ask if that's voter racism? Are you saying that blacks are racist against themselves? What in the wide world of sports are you even saying? The coalition has changed. Union households are dwindling. Older union members have gravitated to anti-free trade. White collar, younger people are overwhelmingly liberal. 30 years ago they were conservative. Have you given a lick of thought about how that will affect the Republicans next cycle, and the next 2 cycles after that?my2hands said:
I've been a Democrat since you were a registered Republican... minorities and union labor have been the bread and butter base of the party for decades... that support dropped significantly in 2016. It's really not that complicated. I'm not interested in discussing 2018, that was predictable.The Juggler said:
Nope.my2hands said:No, you guys dont get it. I'm aware what happened on Tuesday. I said nothing about confederate statues, or boomers. I fully understand demographics and its impact moving forward. Demographics is destiny and all that jazz.
I'm still tackling the issue of why people assume Trump won. Without understanding that, it's bound to repeat. And maybe we can stop demonizing half the country in the process.
Trump did not win because of Putin, racism, sexism, facebook, xenophobia, homophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Black voter turnout dropped 7% in only 4 years and union support cratered in the sane time, especially in the midwest. Who's fault is that besides the Democratic Party? You dont need a study. You dont need a degree in statistics or political science. I dont need the ACLU, or a calculator.
You’re just cherry picking things you want to respond to and are not really wanting to have an honest discussion about this.
I’m not a member of the democrat party and I never said Trump won solely because of the things you’re saying here. Let me know when you want to have a real discussion about this.
Thanks.
If blacks and union households dont show up in 2020, they will lose in the midwest again and lose the electoral college AGAIN, just as BS said. And i dont care how many suburban white women with a college degree vote, it wont matter if the historical base doesnt show up.
Someone earlier got it right.. you want to re-litigate 2016 but not interested in discussing how 2018 changed that narrative. Okay, great. If you want to have a history discussion on elections, I'm all about that on a new thread. I'd like to kick if off by discussing the Corrupt Bargain. Jackson got shafted, you know it, I know it, but the libs here just can't admit it. DISCUSS!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Off the rails on the White House lawn.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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There are so many insane things that he is saying that it makes one's head spin.Halifax2TheMax said:Off the rails on the White House lawn.0 -
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