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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,231
    edited October 2018
    Who here believes there are middle easterners mixed in? If so, how many are there? Who believes that the Dems are funding the caravan? Who believes there are riots in sanctuary cities in California?
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  • The Juggler
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    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    dignin said:
    As a Canadian I have no problem taking in legitimate refugees. I didn't have a problem with Syrian refugees coming here so why would I have a problem with American refugees?
    There should be more folks like you this world would be better off ...
    Like I said before, I think it sets a bad precedent if we allow a huge caravan like this in. I am definitely not a fan. 
    If they were to be allowed to illegally enter the country, of course that would be a bad precedent to set, but otherwise what is wrong with allowing them in if they go through the process set forth for any other immigrant or asylum seeker? What do you see as the biggest problem?
    I think just the sheer size of the caravan. This is what 5,000 people (I honestly don’t know), what If the next is double that size? Then whole cities?  How can we as a nation absorb that many so quickly and be safe about it?
    Dude, they're not all just going to walk across the border. They're coming here to apply for asylum as refugees which means there is an extensive vetting process. These caravans have apparently been coming here for a couple decades. Nobody has cared about them until our president saw a story about it on Fox and Friends last year and decided it was yet another way he could drive a wedge into out political discourse.

    Overall net immigration has been down. Stop taking the president's word on this (and anything else for that matter). He lies all the time for political purposes. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    It’s all about racism and xenophobic fear. Because that’s all Team Trump Treason has.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,217
    The Juggler said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    dignin said:
    As a Canadian I have no problem taking in legitimate refugees. I didn't have a problem with Syrian refugees coming here so why would I have a problem with American refugees?
    There should be more folks like you this world would be better off ...
    Like I said before, I think it sets a bad precedent if we allow a huge caravan like this in. I am definitely not a fan. 
    If they were to be allowed to illegally enter the country, of course that would be a bad precedent to set, but otherwise what is wrong with allowing them in if they go through the process set forth for any other immigrant or asylum seeker? What do you see as the biggest problem?
    I think just the sheer size of the caravan. This is what 5,000 people (I honestly don’t know), what If the next is double that size? Then whole cities?  How can we as a nation absorb that many so quickly and be safe about it?
    Dude, they're not all just going to walk across the border. They're coming here to apply for asylum as refugees which means there is an extensive vetting process. These caravans have apparently been coming here for a couple decades. Nobody has cared about them until our president saw a story about it on Fox and Friends last year and decided it was yet another way he could drive a wedge into out political discourse.

    Overall net immigration has been down. Stop taking the president's word on this (and anything else for that matter). He lies all the time for political purposes. 
    From what i have read immigration numbers are up.  Interesting.  And trust me, I don't believe a syllable of what Trump says.
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  • The Juggler
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    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    dignin said:
    As a Canadian I have no problem taking in legitimate refugees. I didn't have a problem with Syrian refugees coming here so why would I have a problem with American refugees?
    There should be more folks like you this world would be better off ...
    Like I said before, I think it sets a bad precedent if we allow a huge caravan like this in. I am definitely not a fan. 
    If they were to be allowed to illegally enter the country, of course that would be a bad precedent to set, but otherwise what is wrong with allowing them in if they go through the process set forth for any other immigrant or asylum seeker? What do you see as the biggest problem?
    I think just the sheer size of the caravan. This is what 5,000 people (I honestly don’t know), what If the next is double that size? Then whole cities?  How can we as a nation absorb that many so quickly and be safe about it?
    Dude, they're not all just going to walk across the border. They're coming here to apply for asylum as refugees which means there is an extensive vetting process. These caravans have apparently been coming here for a couple decades. Nobody has cared about them until our president saw a story about it on Fox and Friends last year and decided it was yet another way he could drive a wedge into out political discourse.

    Overall net immigration has been down. Stop taking the president's word on this (and anything else for that matter). He lies all the time for political purposes. 
    From what i have read immigration numbers are up.  Interesting.  And trust me, I don't believe a syllable of what Trump says.
    It has been declining for years. I think we actually had a net outflow of immigrants last year. It’s an issue that needs to be addressed but it’s nowhere near “national emergency” stays. Manufactured outrage by Trump to drive his racist base to the polls. 
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  • Jason P
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    josevolution said:
    dignin said:
    As a Canadian I have no problem taking in legitimate refugees. I didn't have a problem with Syrian refugees coming here so why would I have a problem with American refugees?
    There should be more folks like you this world would be better off ...
    Like I said before, I think it sets a bad precedent if we allow a huge caravan like this in. I am definitely not a fan. 
    If they were to be allowed to illegally enter the country, of course that would be a bad precedent to set, but otherwise what is wrong with allowing them in if they go through the process set forth for any other immigrant or asylum seeker? What do you see as the biggest problem?
    I think just the sheer size of the caravan. This is what 5,000 people (I honestly don’t know), what If the next is double that size? Then whole cities?  How can we as a nation absorb that many so quickly and be safe about it?
    Dude, they're not all just going to walk across the border. They're coming here to apply for asylum as refugees which means there is an extensive vetting process. These caravans have apparently been coming here for a couple decades. Nobody has cared about them until our president saw a story about it on Fox and Friends last year and decided it was yet another way he could drive a wedge into out political discourse.

    Overall net immigration has been down. Stop taking the president's word on this (and anything else for that matter). He lies all the time for political purposes. 
    From what i have read immigration numbers are up.  Interesting.  And trust me, I don't believe a syllable of what Trump says.
    There is currently net out-migration of Mexicans. This has been superseded by entry of more Central American residents, but projections are for this to also wane.

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  • unsung
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    Bentleyspop said:

    Really is about the dumbest comment made on this subject.
  • dignin
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    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:

    Really is about the dumbest comment made on this subject.
    Nah, don't worry, the title is safely yours.
  • jeffbr
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Who here believes there are middle easterners mixed in? If so, how many are there? Who believes that the Dems are funding the caravan? Who believes there are riots in sanctuary cities in California?
    "There's no proof of anything but they could very well be." - Trump 
    Who needs proof when you have el Presidente's conspiracy theories to get us through the day. And with his absolute declaration of absence of proof of anything, he's got massive latitude for truth-stretching lying to his low-information supporters.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,163
    yeah be afraid of the immigrants they send bombs to news headquarters , Obama's & clinton's residence so lets make sure we send the army to stop the caravan they are all terrorist coming to take your daughters & wives and plant bombs all over our nation ....yeah 
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  • cincybearcat
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    josevolution said:
    yeah be afraid of the immigrants they send bombs to news headquarters , Obama's & clinton's residence so lets make sure we send the army to stop the caravan they are all terrorist coming to take your daughters & wives and plant bombs all over our nation ....yeah 
    You’re right. Only can do or think about 1 thing at a time. Let’s forget all that nonsense and only talk about the Mailibomber 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,102
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Yeah, reality.  Reality is that you won’t have to pay for this invasion.
    Well, why doesn't that brilliant president of yours, Team Trump Treason, give them one way bus fare to your vast, unguarded northern border and encourage them to invade Canada? They like tacos, burritos, chalupas and beans and rice up there. And they're much more welcoming than you. Teach their PM a lesson?

    You're still scared? You've got two weeks. Man the ramparts.
    Sounds like an excellent plan :)
    Manning the ramparts?
    Busses to Canada, I suggested this a while back.
    I got no problem with this. I think it sets a bad precedent If these thousands of people are allowed In With no problems. 

    send em on up. we canadians are good like that. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,217
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Yeah, reality.  Reality is that you won’t have to pay for this invasion.
    Well, why doesn't that brilliant president of yours, Team Trump Treason, give them one way bus fare to your vast, unguarded northern border and encourage them to invade Canada? They like tacos, burritos, chalupas and beans and rice up there. And they're much more welcoming than you. Teach their PM a lesson?

    You're still scared? You've got two weeks. Man the ramparts.
    Sounds like an excellent plan :)
    Manning the ramparts?
    Busses to Canada, I suggested this a while back.
    I got no problem with this. I think it sets a bad precedent If these thousands of people are allowed In With no problems. 

    send em on up. we canadians are good like that. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,958
    edited October 2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Yeah, reality.  Reality is that you won’t have to pay for this invasion.
    Well, why doesn't that brilliant president of yours, Team Trump Treason, give them one way bus fare to your vast, unguarded northern border and encourage them to invade Canada? They like tacos, burritos, chalupas and beans and rice up there. And they're much more welcoming than you. Teach their PM a lesson?

    You're still scared? You've got two weeks. Man the ramparts.
    Sounds like an excellent plan :)
    Manning the ramparts?
    Busses to Canada, I suggested this a while back.
    I got no problem with this. I think it sets a bad precedent If these thousands of people are allowed In With no problems. 

    send em on up. we canadians are good like that. 
    Totally - let's help them... Of course it's not problem-free. Such things always come with problems, logistical or otherwise. But I think it's worth it anyhow. We just have to keep working to try and solve those problems the best we can, figure out what is conceivably possible and what isn't. Obviously care must be taken to set up a system that doesn't lead to overwhelming the system to the point where the refugees aren't suffering more than they need to during the process.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,102
    mcgruff10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    yeah lots to laugh about from your safe white picket fence homes , you guys above are shameful to be making jokes about these folks the more i learn about some of you the more i'm happy to not really have to hang with any of you ..i hope none of you are ever in a situation to have to leave your precious homes and have to walk thousands of miles with your kids in tow just to find a safe place to carve out a living ....ughh America is really ugly ... 
    hmmmm...my first reaction was to lighten up since it’s just a messageboard and the reality of the people here care more than the general population.

    But I think you have a point. Except I don’t have a white picket fence.

    So anyhow, what I struggle with is these people are leaving there homes for financial reasons or local crime reasons. They are asylum seekers fleeing war, a tyrannical government, etc. And the man they are continuing to pass through other countries to get specifically to the US.  So, I’m unsure what I think should really happen when they show up.  If you let everyone in, how big is the next one? But if you don’t what will these people do, how will they live?  And should they be let in at the expense of other immigration? There is no easy choice.


    Could one make the argument that America is the greatest country in the world based on what these caravan of people will do to get here?  I mean they are risking life and limb to get to the promise land.
    no. the "promise land" is NOT the US. the promise land is the closest geographical land mass with a government that doesn't slaughter its own people. 

    congrats, you won. 
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  • The Juggler
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    unsung said:
    Bentleyspop said:

    Really is about the dumbest comment made on this subject.
    Dumber than posting a fake picture?
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  • unsung
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    That's all you got, that I posted a pic that I didn't know was accurate.   

    Typical Alinsky commie tactic, try to discredit the person instead of debate the topic.
  • oftenreading
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    unsung said:
    That's all you got, that I posted a pic that I didn't know was accurate.   

    Typical Alinsky commie tactic, try to discredit the person instead of debate the topic.
    Typical troll tactic - bait and switch. 

    Consider checking the veracity of the pictures in the future. It’s only been, what, most of them that are fake? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:
    That's all you got, that I posted a pic that I didn't know was accurate.   

    Typical Alinsky commie tactic, try to discredit the person instead of debate the topic.
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