I agree that tighter border security would be in the US' best interest.
I don't think a wall is the answer. I think physical barriers are necessary at various points, but 5 billion for a big whopper? So that Mexicans can practice their spray painting techniques? Americans can yell from the other side, "Hey. Come on guys. Leave the wall alone."
Didn't existing border controls turn back the caravan? Is it supposed to take the place of border personnel? I see just as many people working as ever, plus the addition of wall maintenance people.
I think even trump has said that the border security wants it to be fence-like because they want to be able to see through it. Remember reading that somewhere. So it’s not like spray paint would be an issue.
also, it’s not at the crossing points that the issue exists, it’s the space in between where there needs to be a wall- migrants looking to pass through illegally use the dangerous areas in between to cross often times
Don't you guys have a massive military? Isn't there any way to develop a system where they are employed along sectors of the border as they train?
The desert regions would be fantastic geographical replications of the middle east where you guys seem to like being.
Well then we’d have to spend billions on building military bases along the border. Not sure that’s the answer, I think we spend too much on our military already. Besides, that would be apocalyptic looking, I think a simple barrier makes more sense.
But the barrier will only prove to be one more challenge that can be overcome.
I wasn't suggesting moving the entire military operation along your southern border. I was suggesting a strategically placed base (or more) to complement existing operations. With the military's existing technology, I'm pretty sure you guys could develop a strong role for them to play in this matter. I'm also thinking valuable training gets done while actively enforcing a border.
And don't get me wrong... I am not saying employ the military to stomp out 'illegals' with deadly force.
Anyways... I'm just speaking off the top of my head whether legitimate or not.
I agree that tighter border security would be in the US' best interest.
I don't think a wall is the answer. I think physical barriers are necessary at various points, but 5 billion for a big whopper? So that Mexicans can practice their spray painting techniques? Americans can yell from the other side, "Hey. Come on guys. Leave the wall alone."
Didn't existing border controls turn back the caravan? Is it supposed to take the place of border personnel? I see just as many people working as ever, plus the addition of wall maintenance people.
I think even trump has said that the border security wants it to be fence-like because they want to be able to see through it. Remember reading that somewhere. So it’s not like spray paint would be an issue.
also, it’s not at the crossing points that the issue exists, it’s the space in between where there needs to be a wall- migrants looking to pass through illegally use the dangerous areas in between to cross often times
What Trump says is absolutely meaningless. "It will be a concrete wall." "It will be across the entire border" "Mexico will pay for the wall"
He is literally the most untrustworthy person in the world when it comes to this.....or anything else really.
What people are forgetting is that the repubs had a deal with Obama for immigration reform as it related to DACA and they walked away from it. Along came Team Trump Treason and the Dems had a deal with him for partial funding of his border wall. And Team Trump Treason walked away from it. Twice. All for a wall that Team Trump Treason promised Mexico would pay for. Fuck him and his base. Start the investigations and get the lying sack of shit impeached and removed. Team Trump Treason is not brilliant, a skilled negotiator nor worthy of the office.
She wants the wall more than McDonald does. Her tweets and utterings are tantamount to warnings for McDonald who she fears is going to cave: build it or else.
She wants the wall more than McDonald does. Her tweets and utterings are tantamount to warnings for McDonald who she fears is going to cave: build it or else.
Wall is stupid...
Secure the border fine but why don't we use all that money for better enrollment of immigrants?
She wants the wall more than McDonald does. Her tweets and utterings are tantamount to warnings for McDonald who she fears is going to cave: build it or else.
I think she's doing exactly what she should do to get what she wants. lots of folks think Trump toughened his stance on the wall because of Coulter calling him out on it.
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I don't think I understand where wall supporters' heads are at. Do they actually know that a wall will cost many times more than $5 billion? Are they expecting it to be $5 billion per year for eternity, or what? Because that's about what would be needed to build the wall over the next 6 to 12 years, and then to maintain it and police it after that forever, while people find other ways to enter America, if they don't just go under or over the damn wall. Have Trumpsters just not thought about that at all, or....? How can they not see that this $5 billion is a meaningless bullshit ask?
And how do they react to stories like how Trump just recently suggested to someone that "THE WALL" is actually just a metaphor for "border security"?
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$$$$$$ should be put forth to hire more border personel more border facilities , more judges to process immigrants im not advocating to just let everyone in and the other factor that's not being talked about is how incompetent this president really is ! how about him innitiating a summitt with the central American countries to hash out some sort of plan to get these countries to govern their populations and what can be done about these mass exodus that seem to be happening ...
$$$$$$ should be put forth to hire more border personel more border facilities , more judges to process immigrants im not advocating to just let everyone in and the other factor that's not being talked about is how incompetent this president really is ! how about him innitiating a summitt with the central American countries to hash out some sort of plan to get these countries to govern their populations and what can be done about these mass exodus that seem to be happening ...
Sounds way to reasonable Jose. The President will never go for it...
$$$$$$ should be put forth to hire more border personel more border facilities , more judges to process immigrants im not advocating to just let everyone in and the other factor that's not being talked about is how incompetent this president really is ! how about him innitiating a summitt with the central American countries to hash out some sort of plan to get these countries to govern their populations and what can be done about these mass exodus that seem to be happening ...
Sounds way to reasonable Jose. The President will never go for it...
Never mind the so-called "president". What about the people, the racist xenophobes, that are to blame for the current regimes immigration policy. Stephen Miller Sebastian Gorka Steve Bannon Sean Hannity Etc
$$$$$$ should be put forth to hire more border personel more border facilities , more judges to process immigrantsim not advocating to just let everyone in and the other factor that's not being talked about is how incompetent this president really is ! how about him innitiating a summitt with the central American countries to hash out some sort of plan to get these countries to govern their populations and what can be done about these mass exodus that seem to be happening ...
Literally NOBODY advocates for that. Trump and Trumpsters and many Republicans love to pretend people want that though. It's ludicrous.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
$$$$$$ should be put forth to hire more border personel more border facilities , more judges to process immigrants im not advocating to just let everyone in and the other factor that's not being talked about is how incompetent this president really is ! how about him innitiating a summitt with the central American countries to hash out some sort of plan to get these countries to govern their populations and what can be done about these mass exodus that seem to be happening ...
Sounds way to reasonable Jose. The President will never go for it...
Never mind the so-called "president". What about the people, the racist xenophobes, that are to blame for the current regimes immigration policy. Stephen Miller Sebastian Gorka Steve Bannon Sean Hannity Etc
I honestly can't fathom "why" people think the idea of a wall is a good thing?
As much as I dislike Chuck Schumer he did say what I would agree with in needing drones, sensors, medical centers, patrols, facilities for processing etc.rather than waste money on a 30' high wall...
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But the barrier will only prove to be one more challenge that can be overcome.
I wasn't suggesting moving the entire military operation along your southern border. I was suggesting a strategically placed base (or more) to complement existing operations. With the military's existing technology, I'm pretty sure you guys could develop a strong role for them to play in this matter. I'm also thinking valuable training gets done while actively enforcing a border.
And don't get me wrong... I am not saying employ the military to stomp out 'illegals' with deadly force.
Anyways... I'm just speaking off the top of my head whether legitimate or not.
"It will be a concrete wall."
"It will be across the entire border"
"Mexico will pay for the wall"
He is literally the most untrustworthy person in the world when it comes to this.....or anything else really.
"Even Trump said". hahahah
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She wants the wall more than McDonald does. Her tweets and utterings are tantamount to warnings for McDonald who she fears is going to cave: build it or else.
Secure the border fine but why don't we use all that money for better enrollment of immigrants?
Drones and sensors?
No... A wall. A yuge wall.
-EV 8/14/93
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As much as I dislike Chuck Schumer he did say what I would agree with in needing drones, sensors, medical centers, patrols, facilities for processing etc.rather than waste money on a 30' high wall...
https://apple.news/AGGf9K0RUS1WbAFje811trQ
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/magazine/ms13-deportation-ice.html
Fuck, fuck, fuck. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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She is nuts...