9/11 "Conspiracy" Theories
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 136 eyewitnesses saw the plane. Fact. Sorry that none of them had video cameras as most were driving to work at the time.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking planeRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
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 Watch the video that I posted. 30 seconds in you have an eyewitness describe watching a 737 hit the pentagon.mcgruff10 said:
 I just don't see a 757 in the video that was released. What the heck is it?my2hands said:
 I do not pretend to have those answers. I have the same questions.mcgruff10 said:
 Ok so let’s say that it was a missile and not a plane. Then what happened to that flight? What happened to the people? Where is the wreckage? Why was a missile being fired toward the pentagon?my2hands said:
 You dont see a 757, bro? Lolmcgruff10 said:
 ''I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon,'' the former employee said. ''He could not fly at all.''my2hands said:https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/04/us/a-trainee-noted-for-incompetence.html
 "He could not fly at all"
 Yup, why ask questions? Lol
 interesting. That pentagon video always bothered me because it looks more like a missile than a plane.
 I mean shit, they are only 150 feet long and 130 feet wide, I'm sure it's just the frame by frame video that explains why we dont see a plane fly straight into a building only feet off the ground 
 How would you keep it quiet? Trust me, I get it.
 And if you use planes to hit the WTC, why not use a plane to hit the pentagon?
 Fair questions, no doubt. Show a clear video of the most secure building in the world getting hit by a 757 and those questions would all disappear, but here we are.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 You didn’t answer my question: do you see a plane in that video?Gern Blansten said:
 136 eyewitnesses saw the plane. Fact. Sorry that none of them had video cameras as most were driving to work at the time.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking planeI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            my2hands said:
 Yeah, that's just as weak as I remember reading it the first time years ago.dignin said:Debunking the Myths About the 9/11 Attack on the PentagonConspiracy theorists who doubt the facts about the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks didn't stop with the World Trade Center. Here, we answer their claims about the attack on the Pentagon.
 https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/“I was close enough that I could see through the windows of the airplane, and watch as it hit…it was accelerating. It was wheels up, flaps up, engines full throttle.” -Lincoln Liebner….EYEWITNESS 
 Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 i do, at the :24 second markmcgruff10 said:
 You didn’t answer my question: do you see a plane in that video?Gern Blansten said:
 136 eyewitnesses saw the plane. Fact. Sorry that none of them had video cameras as most were driving to work at the time.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking plane0
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 yes at 24 second mark....this is a stop action video...notice how jumpy the vehicle is? So take the hit at the 24 second mark, add that to the 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAY THEY SAW A FUCKING AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON and tell me how you would summarize that.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking planeRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 I still don’t see a plane in the video.Gern Blansten said:
 yes at 24 second mark....this is a stop action video...notice how jumpy the vehicle is? So take the hit at the 24 second mark, add that to the 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAY THEY SAW A FUCKING AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON and tell me how you would summarize that.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking planeI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 You also don't see 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAID THEY SAW THE AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON....but they still existmcgruff10 said:
 I still don’t see a plane in the video.Gern Blansten said:
 yes at 24 second mark....this is a stop action video...notice how jumpy the vehicle is? So take the hit at the 24 second mark, add that to the 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAY THEY SAW A FUCKING AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON and tell me how you would summarize that.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking planeRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 I m not debating the eyewitness accounts, I am questioning the video.Gern Blansten said:
 You also don't see 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAID THEY SAW THE AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON....but they still existmcgruff10 said:
 I still don’t see a plane in the video.Gern Blansten said:
 yes at 24 second mark....this is a stop action video...notice how jumpy the vehicle is? So take the hit at the 24 second mark, add that to the 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAY THEY SAW A FUCKING AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON and tell me how you would summarize that.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking plane
 I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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 what is more likely? That the video isn't very clear and due to it not being high quality you are missing out on a half second of more detail? Or that it is a raging conspiracy theory and 136 EYEWITNESSES are in on your little discovery?mcgruff10 said:
 I m not debating the eyewitness accounts, I am questioning the video.Gern Blansten said:
 You also don't see 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAID THEY SAW THE AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON....but they still existmcgruff10 said:
 I still don’t see a plane in the video.Gern Blansten said:
 yes at 24 second mark....this is a stop action video...notice how jumpy the vehicle is? So take the hit at the 24 second mark, add that to the 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAY THEY SAW A FUCKING AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON and tell me how you would summarize that.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking plane
 Drop it man.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 The frame rate on that video is crazy slow. It is entirely feasible that a plane moving at “full throttle” would not be picked up on a video like that. In the video you can see “something” enter the frame and the the next frame the explosion. Due to the poor quality of the video (it was 2001), it is not good enough evidence to disprove the eyewitness reports and broken poles, etc.mcgruff10 said:
 I m not debating the eyewitness accounts, I am questioning the video.Gern Blansten said:
 You also don't see 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAID THEY SAW THE AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON....but they still existmcgruff10 said:
 I still don’t see a plane in the video.Gern Blansten said:
 yes at 24 second mark....this is a stop action video...notice how jumpy the vehicle is? So take the hit at the 24 second mark, add that to the 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAY THEY SAW A FUCKING AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON and tell me how you would summarize that.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking plane
 Now if there were multiple eyewitnesses saying they saw a van pull up and fire a giant missle, that may be a thing.0
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 Exactly...and ZERO eyewitnesses described anything other than a plane.PJPOWER said:
 The frame rate on that video is crazy slow. It is entirely feasible that a plane moving at “full throttle” would not be picked up on a video like that. I’m the video you can see “something” enter the frame and the the next frame the explosion. Due to the poor quality of the video (it was 2001), it is not good enough evidence to disprove the eyewitness reports and broken poles, etc.mcgruff10 said:
 I m not debating the eyewitness accounts, I am questioning the video.Gern Blansten said:
 You also don't see 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAID THEY SAW THE AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON....but they still existmcgruff10 said:
 I still don’t see a plane in the video.Gern Blansten said:
 yes at 24 second mark....this is a stop action video...notice how jumpy the vehicle is? So take the hit at the 24 second mark, add that to the 136 EYEWITNESSES THAT SAY THEY SAW A FUCKING AIRPLANE HIT THE PENTAGON and tell me how you would summarize that.mcgruff10 said:
 You see a plane in the released video?Gern Blansten said:136 people saw the fucking plane
 Now if there were multiple eyewitnesses saying they saw a van pull up and fire a giant missle, that may be a thing.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
 2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 what are your counter arguments to the points noted in that link?my2hands said:
 Yeah, that's just as weak as I remember reading it the first time years ago.dignin said:Debunking the Myths About the 9/11 Attack on the PentagonConspiracy theorists who doubt the facts about the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks didn't stop with the World Trade Center. Here, we answer their claims about the attack on the Pentagon.
 https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/
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            my2hands said:Show me a 757 in this video... supposedly flying a few feet off the ground... at a few hundred MPH... piloted by a poorly trained amateur pilot... who hits his target dead on square.... he didn't come even a few hundred yards short, he threaded the needle, in a 757, a few feet off the ground, travelling at a high rate of speed, with minimal training (yeah, no questions there) https://youtu.be/AzFqXbfv_yg https://youtu.be/AzFqXbfv_yg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHXarRGF1M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHXarRGF1M
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 Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
 you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
 memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
 another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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 Anyone have a similar video explaining the physics of any other object (other than an airliner) causing this damage?mickeyrat said:my2hands said:Show me a 757 in this video... supposedly flying a few feet off the ground... at a few hundred MPH... piloted by a poorly trained amateur pilot... who hits his target dead on square.... he didn't come even a few hundred yards short, he threaded the needle, in a 757, a few feet off the ground, travelling at a high rate of speed, with minimal training (yeah, no questions there) https://youtu.be/AzFqXbfv_yg https://youtu.be/AzFqXbfv_yg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHXarRGF1M0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHXarRGF1M0
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 Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
 you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
 memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
 another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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            Way to go Sage! Not to be morbid, but i’m guessing the canine sniffed out “pieces” of the piece of shit.
 The dog must have been trained on sniffing out dog shit.Post edited by PJPOWER on0
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