9/11 "Conspiracy" Theories

Halifax2TheMax
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Post them if you have them. "102 Minutes" by a pair of NYTs authors give a really well done explanation of the how and why the Twin Towers fell with fact based science and physics to back it up. Here's an article relating to WTC7 that explains the how and why, something some conspiracy theorists on here won't want to read or understand, probably because it doesn't fit their agenda.

 https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/

There are a ton of explanations out there for just about every angle utilized by the "theorists." Which by the way, remains a "theory" until proven otherwise.

PS: Please, for the love of the sweet baby jesus, leave Kap out of this. He's got enough problems.

Book Overview

By 8:46 A.M. on September 11, 2001, 14,000 people had arrived at the World Trade Center's twin towers, ready to start their workdays. Instead, over the next 102 minutes, each would become part of a drama for the ages. In 102 Minutes, Jim Dwyer and Kevin Flynn draw on hundreds of interviews with rescuers and survivors, thousands of pages of oral histories, and countless phone, e-mail, and emergency radio transcripts to tell the story of September 11 from the inside looking out. From the words and deeds of ordinary men and women they weave an epic account of struggle, determination, and grace. Hailed upon its hardcover publication as the definitive account of the events at the World Trade Center, 102 Minutes now contains a new afterword that incorporates powerful firsthand material, including tapes and documents recently obtained by the authors after years of litigation. Book jacket. 


https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/102-minutes-the-untold-story-of-the-fight-to-survive-inside-the-twin-towers_kevin-flynn_jim--dwyer/276940/?mkwid=sckPaGqkw|dc&pcrid=70112871912&pkw=&pmt=&plc=&pgrid=21323662872&ptaid=pla-292433309496&gclid=CjwKCAjwlejcBRAdEiwAAbj6KaomwqgUfFWpP3q4IWPI3aF744_c038SOYCKIWBeckjPIUvSn015jhoC7_YQAvD_BwE#isbn=0805080325&idiq=2257627

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Take the official government report and the wildest conspiracy theory...the truth is somewhere in between.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,312
    unsung said:
    Take the official government report and the wildest conspiracy theory...the truth is somewhere in between.
    I’d be interested in why you think it’s a theory or believe there is/was a conspiracy.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I heard that the #Ptape was in one of the towers and that’s why Trump took them down.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Take the official government report and the wildest conspiracy theory...the truth is somewhere in between.
    I’d be interested in why you think it’s a theory or believe there is/was a conspiracy.
    Because I don’t consume what is spoonfed.  I am not applying this to only 9/11.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,312
    PJPOWER said:
    I heard that the #Ptape was in one of the towers and that’s why Trump took them down.
    May very well be.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The ptape was in WTC7.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
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    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,878
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,448
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
    <sarcasm>
    Good thing there's such a shortage of nut jobs... 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
    No one is gonna admit that they ordered an attack on one of their own civilian planes. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,312
    unsung said:
    The ptape was in WTC7.
    I knew Cohen had an office in WTC7.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,878
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
    No one is gonna admit that they ordered an attack on one of their own civilian planes. 
    DOn't you mean a self guided missile?  Give me a break.  Few would fault the order to shoot down a plane full of people that were going to die anyway.  
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,073
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
    No one is gonna admit that they ordered an attack on one of their own civilian planes. 
    I think this is the one day in history they would, and the people would accept it. Unfortunately doing so would save countless more lives, it would have been the only option. I wish all 4 planes were shot down.
    I don't think that would have been kept a secret if it did happen that way.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
    No one is gonna admit that they ordered an attack on one of their own civilian planes. 
    Didn't the plane hit the ground like a missile?  I would think if it was shot down by a US fighter or anti aircraft weaponry, the debris would be spread over a greater distance, as would the bodies (f anything was left of the bodies)...unless I'm thinking of a different crash.  
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,878
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
    No one is gonna admit that they ordered an attack on one of their own civilian planes. 
    I think this is the one day in history they would, and the people would accept it. Unfortunately doing so would save countless more lives, it would have been the only option. I wish all 4 planes were shot down.
    I don't think that would have been kept a secret if it did happen that way.
    Exactly....wouldn't have been kept a secret and COULD NOT have been kept a secret.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    edited September 2018
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    Why would they cover up shooting it down?  Other than nut jobs no one could have blamed them.
    No one is gonna admit that they ordered an attack on one of their own civilian planes. 
    I think this is the one day in history they would, and the people would accept it. Unfortunately doing so would save countless more lives, it would have been the only option. I wish all 4 planes were shot down.
    I don't think that would have been kept a secret if it did happen that way.
    I still don’t think any president would admit to giving the order to shoot down a civilian plane. Was it twa flight 800 that had lots of questions around it?  People said they saw a missile go through the sky?
    the big difference about flight 93 would be very few people would have had to kept it a secret, not like the stupid conspiracy theories about the faked lunar landings, flat earth, etc.  again, just a theory. 
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,813
    I think it's natural to be curious about the conspiracies and wanted them proven or disproven.  At the same time, I think it would make sense to spend at least just as much time and energy asking, What drives people to the point of doing something like flying an airplane into a building?  Seems like this would be good to know.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,082
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    when the day originally happened I thought that was a possibility. seemed almost like a fairy tale that passengers over took the hijackers and the plane crashed.   that being said if it was shot down there would be a wider path or debris than there was.  the debris from a missile knocking down a jet liner would scatter over miles i believe.  that's what leads me to believe it crashed there.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    pjhawks said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    when the day originally happened I thought that was a possibility. seemed almost like a fairy tale that passengers over took the hijackers and the plane crashed.   that being said if it was shot down there would be a wider path or debris than there was.  the debris from a missile knocking down a jet liner would scatter over miles i believe.  that's what leads me to believe it crashed there.
    YEah it just seemed so convienant, it came down right in the middle of a field. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Four planes were hijacked, two flew into the World Trade Center, one into the pentagon. My only question was: the official version says the fourth plane wastaken over by the passengers and then it crashed in Pennsylvania.  I always wondered whether that happened Or was there an order given to shoot it down since it was heading to dc.  
    when the day originally happened I thought that was a possibility. seemed almost like a fairy tale that passengers over took the hijackers and the plane crashed.   that being said if it was shot down there would be a wider path or debris than there was.  the debris from a missile knocking down a jet liner would scatter over miles i believe.  that's what leads me to believe it crashed there.
    YEah it just seemed so convienant, it came down right in the middle of a field. 
    It was in rural Pennsylvania. The odds of it coming down in a field vs on a house were actually pretty good. 

    Personally, I could believe in the possibility of thst plane being shot down, but I don’t think the evidence supports it.
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