Mollie Tibbetts
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Gun owners = average Americans, so I’m not sure what you are trying to say?oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:
hey, we can't have it both ways. I think it was a pretty clever comment.PJPOWER said:
Ha, seems like that is a fair case to make in the AMTHughFreakingDillon said:
LOL. touche gruffy.mcgruff10 said:
So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?Halifax2TheMax said:The Juggler said:
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.unsung said:
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.The Juggler said:
He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
Yup.
Unfortunately, back in non-quippy land, immigrants are less likely to kill you than the average American, while gun owners are more likely to kill you than the average American.
And I believe the issue is those who immigrate illegally, not all immigrants. It doesn’t matter what the rate of violence is within illegal immigrants, as it should be zero since they should not be here in the first place. 1000 crimes from illegal immigrants is 1000 more crimes than there should be in the US.
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yes, I know. but those that are on trump's side of immigration policies is that one murder by an illegal immigrant is too many and saying you are more likely to be murdered by an american is a red herring. just like when gun control opponents use the "you are more likely to be killed by a car than a gun" and we call that a red herring.oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:
hey, we can't have it both ways. I think it was a pretty clever comment.PJPOWER said:
Ha, seems like that is a fair case to make in the AMTHughFreakingDillon said:
LOL. touche gruffy.mcgruff10 said:
So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?Halifax2TheMax said:The Juggler said:
Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal.unsung said:
Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her. Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.The Juggler said:
He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
Yup.
Unfortunately, back in non-quippy land, immigrants are less likely to kill you than the average American, while gun owners are more likely to kill you than the average American.
I'm not saying I agree with them, but I can see their point.
I can say "policy should not be driven by fear" all I want, but then that should be across the board, not just on issues I pick and choose. because let's face it, gun control proponents (such as myself) are driven by, primarily, fear. call it safety. call it empathy for the families. but the root of all that is fear. fear of being killed by something that should be controllable.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?Post edited by cincybearcat onhippiemom = goodness0 -
ok, so I guess my question is.....since people go missing every day.....if it went national prior to them knowing the suspect was an illegan immigrant, why did this story get so much attention where 99% of them get zero? in your opinion, of course.cincybearcat said:
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Good question. As I have lived in Iowa and still have friends I heard about it though them first. Mostly started as worried about human trafficking in the area along I-80. Then since she was missing and not found it usually makes an interesting story. I’m certain her being a Midwest, white, attractive college girl helped.HughFreakingDillon said:
ok, so I guess my question is.....since people go missing every day.....if it went national prior to them knowing the suspect was an illegan immigrant, why did this story get so much attention where 99% of them get zero? in your opinion, of course.cincybearcat said:
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?
Do you think they were covering it because they figured illegal immigration figured into it?
Edit: I will add the fact that she seemed to be a nice kid with no terrible background and a college student would certainly grab a lot of people’s attention as they can related. So maybe that had more to do with it then white attractive girl...dunno.Post edited by cincybearcat onhippiemom = goodness0 -
Easy answer...ratings. The media only publishes stories that they believe their target audience will be interested in. What is the target audience’s demographics for the particular stations that covered it first?cincybearcat said:
Good question. As I have lived in Iowa and still have friends I heard about it though them first. Mostly started as worried about human trafficking in the area along I-80. Then since she was missing and not found it usually makes an interesting story. I’m certain her being a Midwest, white, attractive college girl helped.HughFreakingDillon said:
ok, so I guess my question is.....since people go missing every day.....if it went national prior to them knowing the suspect was an illegan immigrant, why did this story get so much attention where 99% of them get zero? in your opinion, of course.cincybearcat said:
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?
Do you think they were covering it because they figured illegal immigration figured into it?
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I guess that's what I was wondering, if the story was circulated as there was an inkling as to who the suspect may have been. But that's pure speculation on my part.cincybearcat said:
Good question. As I have lived in Iowa and still have friends I heard about it though them first. Mostly started as worried about human trafficking in the area along I-80. Then since she was missing and not found it usually makes an interesting story. I’m certain her being a Midwest, white, attractive college girl helped.HughFreakingDillon said:
ok, so I guess my question is.....since people go missing every day.....if it went national prior to them knowing the suspect was an illegan immigrant, why did this story get so much attention where 99% of them get zero? in your opinion, of course.cincybearcat said:
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?
Do you think they were covering it because they figured illegal immigration figured into it?
Edit: I will add the fact that she seemed to be a nice kid with no terrible background and a college student would certainly grab a lot of people’s attention as they can related. So maybe that had more to do with it then white attractive girl...dunno.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I doubt that that was the reason. I think it’s much more that she was a white, attractive, middle class, wholesome looking young woman so easy to stoke the age-old myths.HughFreakingDillon said:
I guess that's what I was wondering, if the story was circulated as there was an inkling as to who the suspect may have been. But that's pure speculation on my part.cincybearcat said:
Good question. As I have lived in Iowa and still have friends I heard about it though them first. Mostly started as worried about human trafficking in the area along I-80. Then since she was missing and not found it usually makes an interesting story. I’m certain her being a Midwest, white, attractive college girl helped.HughFreakingDillon said:
ok, so I guess my question is.....since people go missing every day.....if it went national prior to them knowing the suspect was an illegan immigrant, why did this story get so much attention where 99% of them get zero? in your opinion, of course.cincybearcat said:
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?
Do you think they were covering it because they figured illegal immigration figured into it?
Edit: I will add the fact that she seemed to be a nice kid with no terrible background and a college student would certainly grab a lot of people’s attention as they can related. So maybe that had more to do with it then white attractive girl...dunno.
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which is exactly why it's so difficult to get people to give a shit about the missing and murdered aboriginals in canada. it's really disgusting.oftenreading said:
I doubt that that was the reason. I think it’s much more that she was a white, attractive, middle class, wholesome looking young woman so easy to stoke the age-old myths.HughFreakingDillon said:
I guess that's what I was wondering, if the story was circulated as there was an inkling as to who the suspect may have been. But that's pure speculation on my part.cincybearcat said:
Good question. As I have lived in Iowa and still have friends I heard about it though them first. Mostly started as worried about human trafficking in the area along I-80. Then since she was missing and not found it usually makes an interesting story. I’m certain her being a Midwest, white, attractive college girl helped.HughFreakingDillon said:
ok, so I guess my question is.....since people go missing every day.....if it went national prior to them knowing the suspect was an illegan immigrant, why did this story get so much attention where 99% of them get zero? in your opinion, of course.cincybearcat said:
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?
Do you think they were covering it because they figured illegal immigration figured into it?
Edit: I will add the fact that she seemed to be a nice kid with no terrible background and a college student would certainly grab a lot of people’s attention as they can related. So maybe that had more to do with it then white attractive girl...dunno.
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Dude it’s not because they are aboriginals....it’s cause they are Canadian.HughFreakingDillon said:
which is exactly why it's so difficult to get people to give a shit about the missing and murdered aboriginals in canada. it's really disgusting.oftenreading said:
I doubt that that was the reason. I think it’s much more that she was a white, attractive, middle class, wholesome looking young woman so easy to stoke the age-old myths.HughFreakingDillon said:
I guess that's what I was wondering, if the story was circulated as there was an inkling as to who the suspect may have been. But that's pure speculation on my part.cincybearcat said:
Good question. As I have lived in Iowa and still have friends I heard about it though them first. Mostly started as worried about human trafficking in the area along I-80. Then since she was missing and not found it usually makes an interesting story. I’m certain her being a Midwest, white, attractive college girl helped.HughFreakingDillon said:
ok, so I guess my question is.....since people go missing every day.....if it went national prior to them knowing the suspect was an illegan immigrant, why did this story get so much attention where 99% of them get zero? in your opinion, of course.cincybearcat said:
Ok so you want me to go link it all over? Pretending this didn’t hit nationally before the illegal immigrant angle is pretty weird to me.fife said:
1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]cincybearcat said:
This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh.fife said:
maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news.cincybearcat said:
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/my2hands said:https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/
https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/
https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring
it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was
there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?
drilling for fear, keeps the job simple
National before she was found.National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly. what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly. now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news.
Although ill I’ll admit I don’t live everywhere so I’m sure there are some places that maybe didn’t get a sniff of it. But it was pretty broadly shared. The fact that a local station in philly has the news is actually pretty telling if it’s national news. I mean you think they just randomly pick stories from Iowa?
Do you think they were covering it because they figured illegal immigration figured into it?
Edit: I will add the fact that she seemed to be a nice kid with no terrible background and a college student would certainly grab a lot of people’s attention as they can related. So maybe that had more to do with it then white attractive girl...dunno.
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Nobody gives a shit about Canada
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Trump does.my2hands said:Nobody gives a shit about Canada
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Thats the way we want it ...my2hands said:Nobody gives a shit about Canada
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I heard Saudi Arabia cares....Meltdown99 said:
Thats the way we want it ...my2hands said:Nobody gives a shit about Canada
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Don’t leave!!!!HughFreakingDillon said:*leaves thread*
Since your Canadian no one will go looking for you!!! Your only hope for safety is to stay here.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Let's hear more about missing aboriginals. Unsung won't mind.0
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I wonder if this tweet is true based on the last sentence of the article:The Juggler said:
Tibbetts' family released a statement Wednesday saying their "hearts are broken." The statement did not, however, mention immigration.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-says-mollie-tibbetts-family-separated-slain-student-153513706.html
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I don't understand..?mcgruff10 said:
I wonder if this tweet is true based on the last sentence of the article:The Juggler said:
Tibbetts' family released a statement Wednesday saying their "hearts are broken." The statement did not, however, mention immigration.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-says-mollie-tibbetts-family-separated-slain-student-153513706.html"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
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