Missoula Poster

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  • thispureamericanriot
    thispureamericanriot California Posts: 514
    superj72 said:
    That Missoula poster is evil and harmful to the country. There have already been too many posters that have hurt feelings and ruined lives. Can you imagine if one of these posters was ever displayed in a school???

    The US needs poster control. Now.
    The US needs "poster control" as much as it needs "thought control" - maybe that's what you meant? Freedom of speech (expression) is protected under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. So no - the US does not need Poster Control. 

    However, with all due respect to Jeff and poster artist Bobby Brown, there are so many more "controversial" visual artists who have done a great job at shocking the public. I'm curious why people aren't more "shocked" by Robert Mapplethorpe's Self Portrait with Whip (1978) , Manuel Ocampo's Untitled (Burnt Out Europe (1992), Marcel Duchamp's Fountain (1917) and the many works by Chinese political artist Ai Wei Wei. Art is not always meant to be pretty. So my artistic kudos to Ament & Brown!

    I know I sound like an art snob (I am an art teacher after all), but just Google those works I just listed...the PJ Trump Poster will seem like a warm fuzzy kitten compared. ;)
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  • PSUS2H
    PSUS2H USA Posts: 2,388
    The poor guy who did the art closed his instagram account.  I hope he sells these so we can help support him, this was his first big break.  All the crap thats going on in real life in Washington and people get more worked up over a piece of art......
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  • 1rogeraspain2
    1rogeraspain2 Posts: 104
    thispureamericanriot said:
    superj72 said:
    That Missoula poster is evil and harmful to the country. There have already been too many posters that have hurt feelings and ruined lives. Can you imagine if one of these posters was ever displayed in a school???

    The US needs poster control. Now.
    The US needs "poster control" as much as it needs "thought control" - maybe that's what you meant? Freedom of speech (expression) is protected under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. So no - the US does not need Poster Control. 

    However, with all due respect to Jeff and poster artist Bobby Brown, there are so many more "controversial" visual artists who have done a great job at shocking the public. I'm curious why people aren't more "shocked" by Robert Mapplethorpe's Self Portrait with Whip (1978) , Manuel Ocampo's Untitled (Burnt Out Europe (1992), Marcel Duchamp's Fountain (1917) and the many works by Chinese political artist Ai Wei Wei. Art is not always meant to be pretty. So my artistic kudos to Ament & Brown!

    I know I sound like an art snob (I am an art teacher after all), but just Google those works I just listed...the PJ Trump Poster will seem like a warm fuzzy kitten compared. ;)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMtsodcAsVU
    I'm pretty sure superj72 was using some tongue-in-cheek hyperbole to make a point (a good one at that!) here.

    I'm with you otherwise, thepureamericanriot. Politics aside. We're talking about ART!! ART!! Whether one agrees or disagrees with the artist's "message," an artist's ability to freely express himself or herself (regardless of the message) is of paramount importance. One may find an artist's message distasteful and may in turn choose to not view, read, or listen to said artist; that's one's prerogative. But to decry the freedom of artistic expression is (in my opinion) not only counterproductive but dangerous.
  • thispureamericanriot
    thispureamericanriot California Posts: 514
    1rogeraspain2 said:
    I'm pretty sure superj72 was using some tongue-in-cheek hyperbole to make a point (a good one at that!) here.

    I'm with you otherwise, thepureamericanriot. Politics aside. We're talking about ART!! ART!! Whether one agrees or disagrees with the artist's "message," an artist's ability to freely express himself or herself (regardless of the message) is of paramount importance. One may find an artist's message distasteful and may in turn choose to not view, read, or listen to said artist; that's one's prerogative. But to decry the freedom of artistic expression is (in my opinion) not only counterproductive but dangerous.
    LOL...true I'm a bit tone deaf when trying to decipher forum posts I guess. Haha.

    I get all fired up when people start talking about censoring artists like Pearl Jam, Spike Lee, etc. In 2018 we now walking in the very Orwellian Nightmare we had hoped to avoid. When The Washington Post writes headline articles about a Pearl Jam gig poster, I'm very scared for any artist trying to express something controversial. The slippery slope is here.
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  • 1rogeraspain2
    1rogeraspain2 Posts: 104
    thispureamericanriot said:
    LOL...true I'm a bit tone deaf when trying to decipher forum posts I guess. Haha. 
    I get all fired up when people start talking about censoring artists like Pearl Jam, Spike Lee, etc. In 2018 we now walking in the very Orwellian Nightmare we had hoped to avoid. When The Washington Post writes headline articles about a Pearl Jam gig poster, I'm very scared for any artist trying to express something controversial. The slippery slope is here.
    100% agree! Free Expression is being attacked on many fronts and in the name of many causes. But, I am confident that the freedom to express oneself will prevail. It's been attacked many times and in many ways, but it seems to always keep its feet under it despite the vicious blows.

    Love the Hockney quote. Lotta respect for an artist who always finds new mediums (media?) and seems to thrive in each.

    Cheers!
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Was he designing posters when he was in New Edition or did he start when he married Whitney Houston?
  • thispureamericanriot
    thispureamericanriot California Posts: 514
    teskeinc said:
    Was he designing posters when he was in New Edition or did he start when he married Whitney Houston?
    If Millie Bobby Brown designed that poster, I'd be afraid...very afraid! LOL

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  • thispureamericanriot
    thispureamericanriot California Posts: 514
    Here is poster artist Bobby Brown aka "Bobby Draws Skullz". Help an artist in need and buy one of his other posters...
    https://society6.com/bobbydrawsskulls
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  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    teskeinc said:
    Was he designing posters when he was in New Edition or did he start when he married Whitney Houston?
    "They say i'm crazy"
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    that's my prerogative"
     
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,360
    westbrook36 said:
    Rumors are SiriusXM may cancel PJ radio over backlash from Missoula poster..
    They just played Social Distortion. After hearing what Mike Ness just did...way worse than a poster.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    darwinstheory said:
    westbrook36 said:
    Rumors are SiriusXM may cancel PJ radio over backlash from Missoula poster..
    They just played Social Distortion. After hearing what Mike Ness just did...way worse than a poster.
    MAGA dues performs a flipping the bird at Ness protest at a Social D show and expected anything less?  LOL.  Not a swift move.
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  • kaseylily
    kaseylily Michigan, USA Posts: 259
    D-Rod said:
    teskeinc said:
    Was he designing posters when he was in New Edition or did he start when he married Whitney Houston?
    "They say i'm crazy"
    "I really don't care"
    that's my prerogative"
     
    LOL!
  • CJ260717
    CJ260717 Posts: 414
    It's just really ugly.  Looks like a junior high school art project.  Maybe that was the target audience all along.
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    What continues to be amazing to me is that the dull response being made assumes that the poster advocates violence, when it quite simply is implying what happens when a two bit real estate swindler is at a big seat in world and national politics.

    The basic message of the allegory is that if in the end we are too late, at least he is such an idiot that if he burns it down he will rot in the swamp he said he was draining and a sweat Eagle will get to feed off him during the reboot. 
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • inhiding 1976
    inhiding 1976 NWI Posts: 580
    edited August 2018
    A little disappointed.  The Band who “cares about there fans” should understand there is a lot of fans that don’t agree with them politically. Causing a divide between the fan base isn’t good.  I love the music, the shows etc.  going to Wrigley both nights.  Hoping for good music and not a political lecture.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,281
    Did they take down Bobby's Facebook and Instagram accounts? :( 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769

    The more I think about this poster / controversy, the more I love it.

    The best art is controversial & sparks debate. Mission accomplished. (& it's an ugly ass poster too!)

    I hope the Thief Citizen tweets about it.  

  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 765
    I think Bobby didn't want to deal with the onslaught from the alt-right, whose internet time is in desperate need of limits.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,853
    Jvollman said:
    Hopefully all these hypocrites who are enraged do not attend this weekend and thin out the GA pit!!  


    Perhaps the poster went a bit too far? I was not a fan of "When they go low, we go high" nonsense, but does the band have to stoop to the moronic GOP level of discourse?

    Saying that, would love to hear anyone in the band publicly invite any trump supporter to stay home at the away shows or even all future PJ shows 
  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    Pretty sure that the poster may have gone over better with the right side if Hillary was on it trapped under a smashed computer or something...
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