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PJ_Soul · August 2018

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

oftenreading said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I like the poster and I want one. Doesn’t bother me a bit. I do wonder how tester’s camp must be feeling about the whole thing though. It’s obvious from Jeff’s quote that he had a bunch of ideas he gave to the artist who drew it up and “killed it” as Jeff said, but I don’t think Jeff or Tester knew what the print would look like until the rough draft got sent to Jeff. I wonder if Tester ever saw it at all? As far as politicians go, any publicity is probably good, but I bet they’re a bit shaken?

I have been looking for a comment by Tester or his campaign but haven’t found one yet. Can’t wait to see what eventually comes out. Politically, probably the safest thing for him to say is something along the lines of “while I don’t agree with the imagery, I fully support their right to express their artistic vision and political views blah blah blah..”, but it would be fantastic if he actually comes out in support of it.

Yeah- they have to tread lightly thoughI’m sure seeing as Montana is a seriously red state. He’s likely to see repercussions if he outright agrees with it or something like that. I bet if he at all makes a statement it’ll be like what you said.

It can't be that seriously red. John Tester keeps beating the Republicans in the Senate race.

Google it.

I don't need to. All I am saying is that a REALLY red state probably wouldn't have a multi-term Democratic State Senator.

Or the Senator isn't the deepest shade of blue

Well he isn't - I've read his platform, and it works for the people of Montana, wink. But he's still a Democrat, and super red states don't keep reelecting democrats, do they? If they do, then I figure that's not a super red state. It's purple.

eddiec · August 2018

ME10280 said:

I know it's not a wish. I know they love the country & it's the politics the artists are against. I, personally, just don't like images of our monuments burning. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I wouldn't live anywhere else. Freedom of speech rules!!!

But isn't the message of the poster that Trump is burning down the White House because of his own actions?

Vedd Hedd · August 2018

The MAGA trolls on facebook. Lol.

RoleModelsinBlood31 · August 2018

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

oftenreading said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I like the poster and I want one. Doesn’t bother me a bit. I do wonder how tester’s camp must be feeling about the whole thing though. It’s obvious from Jeff’s quote that he had a bunch of ideas he gave to the artist who drew it up and “killed it” as Jeff said, but I don’t think Jeff or Tester knew what the print would look like until the rough draft got sent to Jeff. I wonder if Tester ever saw it at all? As far as politicians go, any publicity is probably good, but I bet they’re a bit shaken?

I have been looking for a comment by Tester or his campaign but haven’t found one yet. Can’t wait to see what eventually comes out. Politically, probably the safest thing for him to say is something along the lines of “while I don’t agree with the imagery, I fully support their right to express their artistic vision and political views blah blah blah..”, but it would be fantastic if he actually comes out in support of it.

Yeah- they have to tread lightly thoughI’m sure seeing as Montana is a seriously red state. He’s likely to see repercussions if he outright agrees with it or something like that. I bet if he at all makes a statement it’ll be like what you said.

It can't be that seriously red. John Tester keeps beating the Republicans in the Senate race.

Google it.

I don't need to. All I am saying is that a REALLY red state probably wouldn't have a multi-term Democratic State Senator.

Tester obviously had nothing to do with that poster, so I figure that is all the guy has to say, and all he could possibly say.... Unless he has some good words to pass on to the citizens of Montana about art and artistic perspectives I guess.

You probably should before you comment then;

Montana is a red state and has voted conservatively, and thus Republican, in the presidential race for every race since 1968, with the exception of 1992. Even so, there are pockets of Democrats within the state that will make you feel right at home, if you are indeed a Democrat.

ME10280 · August 2018

PJ_Soul said:

mbowers said:

ME10280 said:

I know it's not a wish. I know they love the country & it's the politics the artists are against. I, personally, just don't like images of our monuments burning. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I wouldn't live anywhere else. Freedom of speech rules!!!

So was Independence Day the scariest horror movie of your life?

That made me lol.

That was actually really funny. I'm just saying, my opinion is that it's in bad taste. But as they say about opinions, they're like assholes. Everyone has one & they all stink.

My feathers aren't ruffled. Don't read too deeply into it. It's just my 2 cents.

pjl44 · August 2018

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

oftenreading said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I like the poster and I want one. Doesn’t bother me a bit. I do wonder how tester’s camp must be feeling about the whole thing though. It’s obvious from Jeff’s quote that he had a bunch of ideas he gave to the artist who drew it up and “killed it” as Jeff said, but I don’t think Jeff or Tester knew what the print would look like until the rough draft got sent to Jeff. I wonder if Tester ever saw it at all? As far as politicians go, any publicity is probably good, but I bet they’re a bit shaken?

I have been looking for a comment by Tester or his campaign but haven’t found one yet. Can’t wait to see what eventually comes out. Politically, probably the safest thing for him to say is something along the lines of “while I don’t agree with the imagery, I fully support their right to express their artistic vision and political views blah blah blah..”, but it would be fantastic if he actually comes out in support of it.

Yeah- they have to tread lightly thoughI’m sure seeing as Montana is a seriously red state. He’s likely to see repercussions if he outright agrees with it or something like that. I bet if he at all makes a statement it’ll be like what you said.

It can't be that seriously red. John Tester keeps beating the Republicans in the Senate race.

Google it.

I don't need to. All I am saying is that a REALLY red state probably wouldn't have a multi-term Democratic State Senator.

Or the Senator isn't the deepest shade of blue

Well he isn't - I've read his platform, and it works for the people of Montana, wink. But he's still a Democrat, and super red states don't keep reelecting democrats, do they? If they do, then I figure that's not a super red state. It's purple.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

buck502000 · August 2018

Trump was not even mentioned by Jeff on the back/initial sketch - it was the artist who added the President

Ledbetterman10 · August 2018

buck502000 said:

Trump was not even mentioned by Jeff on the back/initial sketch - it was the artist who added the President

Where'd you find this?

PJ_Soul · August 2018

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

oftenreading said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I like the poster and I want one. Doesn’t bother me a bit. I do wonder how tester’s camp must be feeling about the whole thing though. It’s obvious from Jeff’s quote that he had a bunch of ideas he gave to the artist who drew it up and “killed it” as Jeff said, but I don’t think Jeff or Tester knew what the print would look like until the rough draft got sent to Jeff. I wonder if Tester ever saw it at all? As far as politicians go, any publicity is probably good, but I bet they’re a bit shaken?

I have been looking for a comment by Tester or his campaign but haven’t found one yet. Can’t wait to see what eventually comes out. Politically, probably the safest thing for him to say is something along the lines of “while I don’t agree with the imagery, I fully support their right to express their artistic vision and political views blah blah blah..”, but it would be fantastic if he actually comes out in support of it.

Yeah- they have to tread lightly thoughI’m sure seeing as Montana is a seriously red state. He’s likely to see repercussions if he outright agrees with it or something like that. I bet if he at all makes a statement it’ll be like what you said.

It can't be that seriously red. John Tester keeps beating the Republicans in the Senate race.

Google it.

I don't need to. All I am saying is that a REALLY red state probably wouldn't have a multi-term Democratic State Senator.

Tester obviously had nothing to do with that poster, so I figure that is all the guy has to say, and all he could possibly say.... Unless he has some good words to pass on to the citizens of Montana about art and artistic perspectives I guess.

You probably should before you comment then;

Montana is a red state and has voted conservatively, and thus Republican, in the presidential race for every race since 1968, with the exception of 1992. Even so, there are pockets of Democrats within the state that will make you feel right at home, if you are indeed a Democrat.

Dude. I'm obviously not talking about the presidential race. Just take what I said at face value. Montana couldn't be THAT red if they keep electing a democratic state senator. I have said no more and no less than that.

buck502000 · August 2018

Online/Twitter- it’s the back of the poster

ItIsAllAboutPJ · August 2018

I wanted this poster the moment I saw it, the message is so poignant and it's really cool looking + Jeff's contribution.
I was hoping to be able to pick one up but now that it's blown up, I'm afraid it will be a white whale unless I want to drop a bundle.

For those who were lucky enough to get one at the show... congrats!!

LongestRoad · August 2018

buck502000 said:

Trump was not even mentioned by Jeff on the back/initial sketch - it was the artist who added the President

and no fire. It looks like only in the background or it's smoke like a smoke signal Vote. The interpretations of this thing are endless. I guess it's all in how you want to look at it.

mwplum · August 2018

Bad time to mention that Canada/Britain actually burned down the White House in 1812?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington

Keeping things in perspective, this just an artist's rendering of what Trump is doing to America. It is a criticism of him, not of the country or its people. It is not advocating any violence (as has been reported by some right leaning "news" agencies), in fact it is doing the opposite...it is encouraging the people to take back their country by exercising their right to vote on November!

Merkin Baller · August 2018

eddiec said:

ME10280 said:

I know it's not a wish. I know they love the country & it's the politics the artists are against. I, personally, just don't like images of our monuments burning. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I wouldn't live anywhere else. Freedom of speech rules!!!

But isn't the message of the poster that Trump is burning down the White House because of his own actions?

& then died reaching for his Russian money.

Thats how I interpret it.

PJNB · August 2018

LongestRoad said:

buck502000 said:

Trump was not even mentioned by Jeff on the back/initial sketch - it was the artist who added the President

and no fire. It looks like only in the background or it's smoke like a smoke signal Vote. The interpretations of this thing are endless. I guess it's all in how you want to look at it.

There is definitely fire in that print.

PJ_Soul · August 2018

PJNB said:

LongestRoad said:

buck502000 said:

Trump was not even mentioned by Jeff on the back/initial sketch - it was the artist who added the President

and no fire. It looks like only in the background or it's smoke like a smoke signal Vote. The interpretations of this thing are endless. I guess it's all in how you want to look at it.

There is definitely fire in that print.

Lol, yeah, there are great big flames reaching like 10 stories into the sky. Looks like all of Washington was meant to be burning.

kaseylily · August 2018

RP112579 said:

Quote from Jeff in the Rolling Stone article:
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“The role of artists is to make people think and feel, and the current administration has us thinking and feeling,” Ament tells Rolling Stone. “I was the sole conceptualist of this poster, and I welcome all interpretations and discourse. Love, from the First Amendment, Jeff Ament.”

Perfect!

Go Beavers · August 2018

mwplum said:

Bad time to mention that Canada/Britain actually burned down the White House in 1812?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington

Keeping things in perspective, this just an artist's rendering of what Trump is doing to America. It is a criticism of him, not of the country or its people. It is not advocating any violence (as has been reported by some right leaning "news" agencies), in fact it is doing the opposite...it is encouraging the people to take back their country by exercising their right to vote on November!

trump brought that recently trying to do his rooster strut around Trudeau.

kenk · August 2018

ItIsAllAboutPJ said:

I wanted this poster the moment I saw it, the message is so poignant and it's really cool looking + Jeff's contribution.
I was hoping to be able to pick one up but now that it's blown up, I'm afraid it will be a white whale unless I want to drop a bundle.
For those who were lucky enough to get one at the show... congrats!!

These are selling for over $500 now. They were going for $90 on ebay yesterday lol. They'll come back down to earth after the craze wears off. Nobody wanted it until it hit the news. Plus who knows, maybe a few will hit the store when they stock the leftovers. I really want one as well and am kicking myself for not buying it for under $100 when i had the chance yesterday. Figured i could just grab one down the road and not spend the $$ now. Oh well.

on2legs · August 2018

Is Trump actually supposed to be dead on the poster? It looks like his head is up and he’s trying to crawl away.

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