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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Rumors are SiriusXM may cancel PJ radio over backlash from Missoula poster..
    Can I be the conservative who says that this would be so dumb. Just like it was so dumb for radio stations to ban the dixie chicks and/or Kanye. Just like it's so dumb to ban Alex Jones. Just like it's so dumb for social media to ban/shadow ban thought they don't like. Just like it's so dumb for protestors to shut down speaking events on college campuses. Enough with the suppression of speech!
  • SpokenSpoken Posts: 1,489
    PJ may have some new people joining the Fan Club today just based on the poster :)
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,332
    edited August 2018
    I think the Sirius Xm angle is bullshit. I have yet to see that suggested anywhere other than from the OP. 
    Agreed, that's ridiculous, and I can't see there being any way in hell that Sirius would have said or hinted at such a thing. Pure silliness. It's most likely that the OP caught wind of some alt-right post saying that Sirius ought to do it and some other alt-righters took it from there, lol.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,332
    Yeah- they have to tread lightly thoughI’m sure seeing as Montana is a seriously red state.  He’s likely to see repercussions if he outright agrees with it or something like that.  I bet if he at all makes a statement it’ll be like what you said.
    It can't be that seriously red. John Tester keeps beating the Republicans in the Senate race.
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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,495
    BS44325 said:
    Can I be the conservative who says that this would be so dumb. Just like it was so dumb for radio stations to ban the dixie chicks and/or Kanye. Just like it's so dumb to ban Alex Jones. Just like it's so dumb for social media to ban/shadow ban thought they don't like. Just like it's so dumb for protestors to shut down speaking events on college campuses. Enough with the suppression of speech!
    You can be but you too will be shut down. Haha! Just kidding. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,332
    ME10280 said:
    I'm not on the right or the left.  Frankly, I hate politics.  I'm also not a few of Trump the Cheetos, but I don't think it's cool to burn the White House & national monuments.  I do believe in patriotism & love for my country, regardless which jackass is in office.  I think the poster was in bad taste.  Just my opinion.
    I think Trump is in bad taste.
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,619
    BS44325 said:
    Can I be the conservative who says that this would be so dumb. Just like it was so dumb for radio stations to ban the dixie chicks and/or Kanye. Just like it's so dumb to ban Alex Jones. Just like it's so dumb for social media to ban/shadow ban thought they don't like. Just like it's so dumb for protestors to shut down speaking events on college campuses. Enough with the suppression of speech!
    Dont include Alex Jones in that group.    Its one thing to ban people who say, "I dont like this person" or "I think these policies suck".  Pearl jam, Kanye, Dixie Chicks voice their opinions.   Just like Toby Keith, Ted Nugent, Roseanne, etc voice them on the right. 

    Alex Jones peddles lies that do actual harm to actual people.   He is flat out making up conspiracy theories that are damaging people, and asking people to cause actual violence. 
    Turn this anger into
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,956
    It’s funny watching the anti-PC, “fuck your feelings” crowd pout over a concert poster with a negative depiction of Dear Leader. Hypocrites.
    Yeah the "snowflakes" on the right are hilarious. Remember them crying about Jim Carrey's drawing of Sarah Sanders a few months back? They'd be praising him if it was a negative drawing of Hillary. So much hypocrisy. 
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,619
    ME10280 said:
    I'm not on the right or the left.  Frankly, I hate politics.  I'm also not a few of Trump the Cheetos, but I don't think it's cool to burn the White House & national monuments.  I do believe in patriotism & love for my country, regardless which jackass is in office.  I think the poster was in bad taste.  Just my opinion.
    Keep in mind....no actual buildings were burned here.  This is an artistic portrayal of what is currently happening.   (or would could be coming if we dont fix it).   Its no different than a political cartoon.  
    Turn this anger into
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,332
    edited August 2018
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Dont include Alex Jones in that group.    Its one thing to ban people who say, "I dont like this person" or "I think these policies suck".  Pearl jam, Kanye, Dixie Chicks voice their opinions.   Just like Toby Keith, Ted Nugent, Roseanne, etc voice them on the right. 

    Alex Jones peddles lies that do actual harm to actual people.   He is flat out making up conspiracy theories that are damaging people, and asking people to cause actual violence. 
    Alex Jones spreads hate speech.

    But hey, we know who have become absolute experts at false equivalencies, and it ain't people on the left.
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,990
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Dont include Alex Jones in that group.    Its one thing to ban people who say, "I dont like this person" or "I think these policies suck".  Pearl jam, Kanye, Dixie Chicks voice their opinions.   Just like Toby Keith, Ted Nugent, Roseanne, etc voice them on the right. 

    Alex Jones peddles lies that do actual harm to actual people.   He is flat out making up conspiracy theories that are damaging people, and asking people to cause actual violence. 
    +1
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  • ME10280ME10280 Posts: 35

    @PJ Soul.  My comments weren't regarding Trump (just the artwork).  I even said I don't like him.  I'm strictly talking about the defacing of our national monuments.  I thought it was shitty when Madonna made her comments about the White House, so it would be hypocritical to not feel the same now.  My feelings about the band haven't changed.  I'm still going to both Chicago shows this weekend.  I also believe in free speech, but I just think the artwork was in bad taste.  What can I say...I love & respect the USA.

  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,223
    PJ_Soul said:
    It can't be that seriously red. John Tester keeps beating the Republicans in the Senate race.
    Google it.  
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  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,073
    JP218404 said:
    THIS!!!!!! RAIL PEOPLE ON YOU!

    AND LEASH OPENER!!  
    ^This Fuck Yea! 
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,459
    “If you don’t like it (the poster), leave!”

    Isn’t that the far right mantra?
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,223
    Google it.  
    I’m also thinking about it in voting for presidential elections- Totally possible it’s more “purple” in other midterm races.  Definitely has the urban vs rural scene you see all over the country.
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  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,819
    ME10280 said:

    @PJ Soul.  My comments weren't regarding Trump (just the artwork).  I even said I don't like him.  I'm strictly talking about the defacing of our national monuments.  I thought it was shitty when Madonna made her comments about the White House, so it would be hypocritical to not feel the same now.  My feelings about the band haven't changed.  I'm still going to both Chicago shows this weekend.  I also believe in free speech, but I just think the artwork was in bad taste.  What can I say...I love & respect the USA.

    Just from a perspective at the moment, do you really believe the intention of the imagery is that the monuments and the whitehouse are being defaced and even further that the president is dead because of some devious act, OR

    That the image is an allegory for what happens when people put their head in the sand?

    It is a dystopian view of a future day through art.  

    It is not a wish.  It is a point of view from a couple of artists on where they fear things are going.  


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  • dcp3ydcp3y Louisville KY Posts: 837
    I would have no reason for Sirius radio without the PJ Radio channel.  They would get cancelled immediately.  -just saying as a subscriber
    As for the poster, not really my bag but to each their own.  I’m sure it will now be a top collectible one given all this added publicity and the overall angst directed at DJT.  Got my popcorn ready in case a Tweet storm hits before/during Wrigley and/or Fenway - both liberal bastions with little to no love for him.  DJT would be wise to avoid starting that, but hey doing the smart thing isn’t always his first or second option.  Maybe he’ll stick with Lebron and the NFL for now.
  • ME10280ME10280 Posts: 35

    I know it's not a wish.  I know they love the country & it's the politics the artists are against.  I, personally, just don't like images of our monuments burning.  Nothing more.  Nothing less. 

    I wouldn't live anywhere else.  Freedom of speech rules!!! 

  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,819
    Vedd Hedd said:
    No one will ever sell Rolling Stone short on the click bait wars.
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  • RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,383
    Quote from Jeff in the Rolling Stone article:

    “The role of artists is to make people think and feel, and the current administration has us thinking and feeling,” Ament tells Rolling Stone. “I was the sole conceptualist of this poster, and I welcome all interpretations and discourse.  Love, from the First Amendment, Jeff Ament.”
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,155
    RP112579 said:
    Quote from Jeff in the Rolling Stone article:

    “The role of artists is to make people think and feel, and the current administration has us thinking and feeling,” Ament tells Rolling Stone. “I was the sole conceptualist of this poster, and I welcome all interpretations and discourse.  Love, from the First Amendment, Jeff Ament.”
    Bravo, Jeff
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,219
    RP112579 said:
    Quote from Jeff in the Rolling Stone article:

    “The role of artists is to make people think and feel, and the current administration has us thinking and feeling,” Ament tells Rolling Stone. “I was the sole conceptualist of this poster, and I welcome all interpretations and discourse.  Love, from the First Amendment, Jeff Ament.”
    Awesome. 
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,385
    kramer73 said:
    If it was Obama instead of Trump, no one would bat an eyelid.  Because it is Trump, it's an outrage.
    Bingo
  • mbowersmbowers Posts: 109
    ME10280 said:

    I know it's not a wish.  I know they love the country & it's the politics the artists are against.  I, personally, just don't like images of our monuments burning.  Nothing more.  Nothing less. 

    I wouldn't live anywhere else.  Freedom of speech rules!!! 

    So was Independence Day the scariest horror movie of your life?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,332
    edited August 2018
    Google it.  
    I don't need to. All I am saying is that a REALLY red state probably wouldn't have a multi-term Democratic State Senator.

    Tester obviously had nothing to do with that poster, so I figure that is all the guy has to say, and all he could possibly say.... Unless he has some good words to pass on to the citizens of Montana about art and artistic perspectives I guess.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,332
    mbowers said:
    So was Independence Day the scariest horror movie of your life?
    :lol: That made me lol.
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,155
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't need to. All I am saying is that a REALLY red state probably wouldn't have a multi-term Democratic State Senator.
    Or the Senator isn't the deepest shade of blue
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