Donald Trump

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah the guy’s crazy for trying to make deals better for his country, what an ass!

Deals?  This isn't dealing over the cost of urinals in a hotel....that's his expertise

He's fucking clueless and it's apparent to everyone except his disciples

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah the guy’s crazy for trying to make deals better for his country, what an ass!

Come on.

He's half-assing it for 'his country'. He spends the majority of his presidential time at his properties golfing and making deals for himself- the 'future consideration' kind where he reaps the appreciation for current decision-making later.

Sorry to say this, but if you think he's in it for the people... you're clueless.

But you’d prefer not saying anything at all right? That would be the non-confrontational way right? Just say nothing and hope everyone stays your friend.  You get nothing in this world by being the nice guy.  I hear everyone on HOW he goes about his business being not how I’d handle it, but WHY and THAT he’s trying to get everything he can for the country is a good thing.  

The Juggler said:

How bout the letter from Kim Jong Un that Trump tweeted out? Mentions how they really are going to denuclearize........oh no...wait--no it says nothing of the kind. My bad. Never mind. 

"Donald Trump is a fucking moron." - Rex TIllerson

Does it say anything about how they released Americans that were being held in captivity though? Small steps lead to success, gotta appreciate getting anything at all from little rocket man.

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah the guy’s crazy for trying to make deals better for his country, what an ass!

Come on.

He's half-assing it for 'his country'. He spends the majority of his presidential time at his properties golfing and making deals for himself- the 'future consideration' kind where he reaps the appreciation for current decision-making later.

Sorry to say this, but if you think he's in it for the people... you're clueless.

But you’d prefer not saying anything at all right? That would be the non-confrontational way right? Just say nothing and hope everyone stays your friend.  You get nothing in this world by being the nice guy.  I hear everyone on HOW he goes about his business being not how I’d handle it, but WHY and THAT he’s trying to get everything he can for the country is a good thing.  

You think the US has wasted their time in the past decade or so being the nice guy ? Hahahahahahaha. Yah. Okay.

Trudeau said it best when he spoke to Donald thinking the only good trade deal for the US was one where it has clearly 'won' the deal like a sporting event (adding that good trade deals benefit both partners... not just one partner... and this is where Donald's life of taking advantage of people is his undoing).

I am curious to see how his 'trade war' works for American citizens. If that's how he wants to play then so be it. Canada will take its share of hits, but we're prepared if that's the way it has to be. We'll survive. Will America's heartland?

https://www.macleans.ca/economy/trumps-heartland-biggest-losers-if-nafta-collapses-says-business-group/

OnWis97 said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah the guy’s crazy for trying to make deals better for his country, what an ass!

I wish I recall who I read this from...but it has been suggested that he doesn’t believe in mutually-beneficial deals.  So he’s always trying to screw the other side.  That’s a bad starting point.

Lol

See my post above your post.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah the guy’s crazy for trying to make deals better for his country, what an ass!

Come on.

He's half-assing it for 'his country'. He spends the majority of his presidential time at his properties golfing and making deals for himself- the 'future consideration' kind where he reaps the appreciation for current decision-making later.

Sorry to say this, but if you think he's in it for the people... you're clueless.

But you’d prefer not saying anything at all right? That would be the non-confrontational way right? Just say nothing and hope everyone stays your friend.  You get nothing in this world by being the nice guy.  I hear everyone on HOW he goes about his business being not how I’d handle it, but WHY and THAT he’s trying to get everything he can for the country is a good thing.  

You think the US has wasted their time in the past decade or so being the nice guy ? Hahahahahahaha. Yah. Okay.

Trudeau said it best when he spoke to Donald thinking the only good trade deal for the US was one where it has clearly 'won' the deal like a sporting event (adding that good trade deals benefit both partners... not just one partner... and this is where Donald's life of taking advantage of people is his undoing).

I am curious to see how his 'trade war' works for American citizens. If that's how he wants to play then so be it. Canada will take its share of hits, but we're prepared if that's the way it has to be. We'll survive. Will America's heartland?

https://www.macleans.ca/economy/trumps-heartland-biggest-losers-if-nafta-collapses-says-business-group/

Sending billions of dollars to further terrorism is pretty nice.  Avoiding conflict with anyone and apologizing to the world seems pretty nice to me. Those were tactics of the last admin, right?

as far as the trade war goes, everyone’s going to take their lumps, for sure.  Will it better things in the future? Who knows, we’ll see.  Better to try and fail than to not try at all.

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

Well to be fair, most of the NATO countries have not met their spending obligations that they agreed to regarding the military yet.  Now - according to the agreement they still have time and I don't think Trump's bravado was the right way to go about this.  But it seems they did need a push....behind the scenes.

They agreed that the target is 2% by 2024. I don’t believe it’s 2024 yet, therefore it’s incorrect to say they haven’t met their spending obligations. 

That is why I said "have not met their spending obligations that they agreed to regarding the military YET". 

Oftenmisreading

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah the guy’s crazy for trying to make deals better for his country, what an ass!

Come on.

He's half-assing it for 'his country'. He spends the majority of his presidential time at his properties golfing and making deals for himself- the 'future consideration' kind where he reaps the appreciation for current decision-making later.

Sorry to say this, but if you think he's in it for the people... you're clueless.

But you’d prefer not saying anything at all right? That would be the non-confrontational way right? Just say nothing and hope everyone stays your friend.  You get nothing in this world by being the nice guy.  I hear everyone on HOW he goes about his business being not how I’d handle it, but WHY and THAT he’s trying to get everything he can for the country is a good thing.  

You think the US has wasted their time in the past decade or so being the nice guy ? Hahahahahahaha. Yah. Okay.

Trudeau said it best when he spoke to Donald thinking the only good trade deal for the US was one where it has clearly 'won' the deal like a sporting event (adding that good trade deals benefit both partners... not just one partner... and this is where Donald's life of taking advantage of people is his undoing).

I am curious to see how his 'trade war' works for American citizens. If that's how he wants to play then so be it. Canada will take its share of hits, but we're prepared if that's the way it has to be. We'll survive. Will America's heartland?

https://www.macleans.ca/economy/trumps-heartland-biggest-losers-if-nafta-collapses-says-business-group/

Sending billions of dollars to further terrorism is pretty nice.  Avoiding conflict with anyone and apologizing to the world seems pretty nice to me. Those were tactics of the last admin, right?

as far as the trade war goes, everyone’s going to take their lumps, for sure.  Will it better things in the future? Who knows, we’ll see.  Better to try and fail than to not try at all.

Better to try what? Weren't things going well for the US? Sometimes it's best to leave well enough alone- if it ain't broke...

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Yeah the guy’s crazy for trying to make deals better for his country, what an ass!

Come on.

He's half-assing it for 'his country'. He spends the majority of his presidential time at his properties golfing and making deals for himself- the 'future consideration' kind where he reaps the appreciation for current decision-making later.

Sorry to say this, but if you think he's in it for the people... you're clueless.

But you’d prefer not saying anything at all right? That would be the non-confrontational way right? Just say nothing and hope everyone stays your friend.  You get nothing in this world by being the nice guy.  I hear everyone on HOW he goes about his business being not how I’d handle it, but WHY and THAT he’s trying to get everything he can for the country is a good thing.  

You think the US has wasted their time in the past decade or so being the nice guy ? Hahahahahahaha. Yah. Okay.

Trudeau said it best when he spoke to Donald thinking the only good trade deal for the US was one where it has clearly 'won' the deal like a sporting event (adding that good trade deals benefit both partners... not just one partner... and this is where Donald's life of taking advantage of people is his undoing).

I am curious to see how his 'trade war' works for American citizens. If that's how he wants to play then so be it. Canada will take its share of hits, but we're prepared if that's the way it has to be. We'll survive. Will America's heartland?

https://www.macleans.ca/economy/trumps-heartland-biggest-losers-if-nafta-collapses-says-business-group/

Sending billions of dollars to further terrorism is pretty nice.  Avoiding conflict with anyone and apologizing to the world seems pretty nice to me. Those were tactics of the last admin, right?

as far as the trade war goes, everyone’s going to take their lumps, for sure.  Will it better things in the future? Who knows, we’ll see.  Better to try and fail than to not try at all.

Better to try what? Weren't things going well for the US? Sometimes it's best to leave well enough alone- if it ain't broke...

That’s never a good option- that’s how things fall apart.  Always be trying to get better, right? Complacency may as well be going backwards.  We can agree to disagree, that’s what makes discussion interesting.  

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

cincybearcat said:

Well to be fair, most of the NATO countries have not met their spending obligations that they agreed to regarding the military yet.  Now - according to the agreement they still have time and I don't think Trump's bravado was the right way to go about this.  But it seems they did need a push....behind the scenes.

They agreed that the target is 2% by 2024. I don’t believe it’s 2024 yet, therefore it’s incorrect to say they haven’t met their spending obligations. 

That is why I said "have not met their spending obligations that they agreed to regarding the military YET". 

Oftenmisreading

No, your phrasing still mid-characterizes it. When you say that they “haven’t met their obligations yet”, it suggests that they are deficient in some way at this point, when in fact it is not even an obligation yet  - it is a goal to be met by 2024. 

Look at the article I posted with the chart.  They were no on track.  Not even close.