Donald Trump

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

I wouldn’t. 

Question for haters: If the whole investigation stems from Obama department/Clinton campaign coordination to weaponize the DOJ and Intelligence agencies to go after a political opponent would you push for all the conspirators to be prosecuted according to the law?

Yes.  But that's ridiculous.

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Go Beavers said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

The real die hards will say that any evidence is fabricated. They’re already down that road (see rolemodels post above). This attack on the trust required of our system will be one of trump’s legacies and one of Putin’s victories. 

I will accept it if it happens.  I’ll be proven wrong, but that’s happened many times before.  I’ve fully believed that the whole investigation has been a show from the start because the insiders don’t want change, and I’ll fully accept that I was wrong if it ever happens.  It won’t mean that my “trust in the system” has changed though- I grew up in a family of lawyers and constitutional law professors, and they’re more distrusting than most, so I will continue to be cautious of the people in power, regardless of their political affiliation.

That's fair. 

I can't believe how tRump and his handlers keep pulling out the "there has been no evidence of collusion" line.  That is only meant to target the horribly ignorant supporters of his.  Until we see the report (or it is leaked) there is no way any of us will know what evidence there is of collusion.

But we do know from Mueller’s court filing is that he won’t be presenting evidence of collusion in the Manafort trial. That says to me that there isn’t any.

It shouldn't.  Why would they present evidence of collusion when his indictment relates to different crimes?

When they prosecute him for collusion they will present evidence of collusion.

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Go Beavers said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

The real die hards will say that any evidence is fabricated. They’re already down that road (see rolemodels post above). This attack on the trust required of our system will be one of trump’s legacies and one of Putin’s victories. 

Yeah tRump's strategy is to paint the investigation as bias or fake so that when the report comes out he can say he's been calling it fake all along.

He knows he's cooked.  My feeling is that the evidence will be so overwhelming that even the die hards will eventually turn.  Maybe not right away but I think it will happen.  Fox News won't deny direct evidence....neither will any GOP candidate running for re-election.

This is a battle to the midterms. Those who participated in weaponizing the DOJ and Intelligence agencies to attack a political opponent are stalling until the house likely changes hands. They intially tried  to take down the President but it has failed. They now desperately need the republican leaders of the congressional investigatory committees to be removed when a democratic house comes into power. At this point the investigation into the corruption can be buried and impeachment can be attempted. The problem with this theory though is that Trump has the power to declassify everything. He knows all the cards on the table and has been telegraphing his knowledge. He is letting the investigation into the corruption proceed quitely through Sessions, Rosenstein, and Huber but should he be put up against the wall he can declassify and let everything he knows flow...

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

I wouldn’t. 

Question for haters: If the whole investigation stems from Obama department/Clinton campaign coordination to weaponize the DOJ and Intelligence agencies to go after a political opponent would you push for all the conspirators to be prosecuted according to the law?

Yes.  But that's ridiculous.

Oh! Collusion is real but corruption by Obama DOJ is ridiculous! 

There has not been any corruption from the Obama DOJ. If so, where are the indictments?

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Go Beavers said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

The real die hards will say that any evidence is fabricated. They’re already down that road (see rolemodels post above). This attack on the trust required of our system will be one of trump’s legacies and one of Putin’s victories. 

Yeah tRump's strategy is to paint the investigation as bias or fake so that when the report comes out he can say he's been calling it fake all along.

He knows he's cooked.  My feeling is that the evidence will be so overwhelming that even the die hards will eventually turn.  Maybe not right away but I think it will happen.  Fox News won't deny direct evidence....neither will any GOP candidate running for re-election.

This is a battle to the midterms. Those who participated in weaponizing the DOJ and Intelligence agencies to attack a political opponent are stalling until the house likely changes hands. They intially tried  to take down the President but it has failed. They now desperately need the republican leaders of the congressional investigatory committees to be removed when a democratic house comes into power. At this point the investigation into the corruption can be buried and impeachment can be attempted. The problem with this theory though is that Trump has the power to declassify everything. He knows all the cards on the table and has been telegraphing his knowledge. He is letting the investigation into the corruption proceed quitely through Sessions, Rosenstein, and Huber but should he be put up against the wall he can declassify and let everything he knows flow...

Then why not sit with Team Mueller for as long as necessary under oath and end the investigation? Why stall? Innocence knows no bounds. Team Trump Treason can put an end to the witch hunt. What are they hiding?

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

I wouldn’t. 

Question for haters: If the whole investigation stems from Obama department/Clinton campaign coordination to weaponize the DOJ and Intelligence agencies to go after a political opponent would you push for all the conspirators to be prosecuted according to the law?

Speaking of hanging hats, you might want to reconsider propagating this nonsense.

Nope. I answered his question which I believe is “nonsense”. Time for you all to answer mine. At the end of the day these are the two arguments. Only one will prove to be true.

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Go Beavers said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

The real die hards will say that any evidence is fabricated. They’re already down that road (see rolemodels post above). This attack on the trust required of our system will be one of trump’s legacies and one of Putin’s victories. 

Yeah tRump's strategy is to paint the investigation as bias or fake so that when the report comes out he can say he's been calling it fake all along.

He knows he's cooked.  My feeling is that the evidence will be so overwhelming that even the die hards will eventually turn.  Maybe not right away but I think it will happen.  Fox News won't deny direct evidence....neither will any GOP candidate running for re-election.

This is a battle to the midterms. Those who participated in weaponizing the DOJ and Intelligence agencies to attack a political opponent are stalling until the house likely changes hands. They intially tried  to take down the President but it has failed. They now desperately need the republican leaders of the congressional investigatory committees to be removed when a democratic house comes into power. At this point the investigation into the corruption can be buried and impeachment can be attempted. The problem with this theory though is that Trump has the power to declassify everything. He knows all the cards on the table and has been telegraphing his knowledge. He is letting the investigation into the corruption proceed quitely through Sessions, Rosenstein, and Huber but should he be put up against the wall he can declassify and let everything he knows flow...

Then why not sit with Team Mueller for as long as necessary under oath and end the investigation? Why stall? Innocence knows no bounds. Team Trump Treason can put an end to the witch hunt. What are they hiding?

Because perjury traps are real. Look at the Flynn case. The agents said he wasn’t lying and yet Mueller charged him with lying anyways. Why should Trump sit with Mueller if he doesn’t have to. Let Mueller bring the subpoena. It will backfire.

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

vaggar99 said:

Question for Supporters: If collusion is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, will you continue to stay inside the raging dumpster fire?

I wouldn’t. 

Question for haters: If the whole investigation stems from Obama department/Clinton campaign coordination to weaponize the DOJ and Intelligence agencies to go after a political opponent would you push for all the conspirators to be prosecuted according to the law?

Speaking of hanging hats, you might want to reconsider propagating this nonsense.

Nope. I answered his question which I believe is “nonsense”. Time for you all to answer mine. At the end of the day these are the two arguments. Only one will prove to be true.

Ridiculous. You want us to believe that an administration that didn’t have one appointed official indicted for any crime in 8 years and a president who told one lie or mistruth a year over two terms suddenly became the most corrupt administration since Nixon? Better get off the pipe. And, you seem to forget the three foreign intelligence agencies that brought the issue of contacts between Russia Russia Russia and Team Trump Treason campaign officials to our national security apparatuses attention. You clearly have not followed the full history of the investigation and seemingly cherry pick to suite your narrative. “Disappearing headlines.”

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

My friend asked me to read this today and I have no fking idea what he's saying here....

How can you not understand this? Seriously? He is talking about crowd records at these venues. How he doesn’t need a band to break a crowd record. He is able to break the records because he can fill space other artists need with people. He is also comparing his “words” with music...saying that he only needs his voice. But not just his voice...the thoughts that come along with the voice. The “thoughts” are more important.

People who keep laughing that they don’t “get it” when it is ao obvious are protraying themselves as dumber then the president who they insist is an idiot.

Seriously?

Come on, man. Look at the last section about the brain and the mouth and the brain attached to the mouth and the brain being important.

I think he was kicked in the head by a donkey.

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

BS44325 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

My friend asked me to read this today and I have no fking idea what he's saying here....

How can you not understand this? Seriously? He is talking about crowd records at these venues. How he doesn’t need a band to break a crowd record. He is able to break the records because he can fill space other artists need with people. He is also comparing his “words” with music...saying that he only needs his voice. But not just his voice...the thoughts that come along with the voice. The “thoughts” are more important.

People who keep laughing that they don’t “get it” when it is ao obvious are protraying themselves as dumber then the president who they insist is an idiot.

Seriously?

Come on, man. Look at the last section about the brain and the mouth and the brain attached to the mouth and the brain being important.

I think he was kicked in the head by a donkey.

BS has the trump translator kit. It come included in the larger trump turd polishing package.