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The Juggler said:He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview. He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.
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Smellyman said:The Juggler said:He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview. He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.
Exactly. This was for his hundredth day in office. Then he did the Lester Holt interview a few weeks later where he basically admitted to obstructing justice and then I don't believe he has done any other non friendly interviews (unless I'm forgetting a GMA one with Stephanopoulus?). Plus he has not given a proper press conference since his second month in office.They try to make it seem like he is really accessible by having the pool shout questions to him when he's walking to Marine One or something but the reality is he is scared to death of actual journalists.
Someone should ask Sarah Sanders, on a daily basis, what the president is so scare of.
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The truth. And a PTape. Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.The Juggler said:Smellyman said:The Juggler said:He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview. He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.
Exactly. This was for his hundredth day in office. Then he did the Lester Holt interview a few weeks later where he basically admitted to obstructing justice and then I don't believe he has done any other non friendly interviews (unless I'm forgetting a GMA one with Stephanopoulus?). Plus he has not given a proper press conference since his second month in office.They try to make it seem like he is really accessible by having the pool shout questions to him when he's walking to Marine One or something but the reality is he is scared to death of actual journalists.
Someone should ask Sarah Sanders, on a daily basis, what the president is so scare of.
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the media in the daily briefings need to band together and start taking this admin to task.The Juggler said:Smellyman said:The Juggler said:He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview. He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.
Exactly. This was for his hundredth day in office. Then he did the Lester Holt interview a few weeks later where he basically admitted to obstructing justice and then I don't believe he has done any other non friendly interviews (unless I'm forgetting a GMA one with Stephanopoulus?). Plus he has not given a proper press conference since his second month in office.They try to make it seem like he is really accessible by having the pool shout questions to him when he's walking to Marine One or something but the reality is he is scared to death of actual journalists.
Someone should ask Sarah Sanders, on a daily basis, what the president is so scare of.
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I agree. this is seemingly another one of those "the left gets outraged by everything" that tends to make everyone take us less seriously. it was a stupid mistake, but not necessarily racially motivated.oftenreading said:
No, if you look at the origin, it implies that being dirty is bad.mace1229 said:
I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.oftenreading said:
“Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of.mace1229 said:
Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.Gern Blansten said:
yeah how fucked up is that?Spiritual_Chaos said:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
As for the cotton picking remark, I agree it wasn’t likely a deliberately racist remark but it was sure a startlingly stupid remark to make when speaking to an African American. You have to be at least somewhat mindful of history.
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Anyone using the phrase "out of your cotton picking mind" without recognizing its racist roots needs to be way more self aware. That term is so blatantly racist. How common it is is irrelevant. That just means that a LOT of people are comfortable using a blatantly racist term, or are at least way too oblivious about the words coming out of their mouths (as was already pointed out, the pot calling the kettle black has no racist overtone whatsoever).mace1229 said:
I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.oftenreading said:
“Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of.mace1229 said:
Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.Gern Blansten said:
yeah how fucked up is that?Spiritual_Chaos said:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
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Being a Trump supporter means having to find excuses for racist nonsense on a daily basis...www.myspace.com0
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The lengths to which they go to defend the obviously wrong. Sad really.The Juggler said:Being a Trump supporter means having to find excuses for racist nonsense on a daily basis...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I get what your saying, but I think it’s completey understandable how and why people don’t think or realize it’s racist. And how common it is plays a big factor. If such phrases are common it’s easy to never even consider the origin. There are hundreds of every day sayings that I’ve never given 2 seconds as to where they came from. Yes, if I stop for a second to think about “cotton pickin” it’s easy to see the racial origins, but there’s so many of these little sayings it is understandable and easy to believe someone doesn’t take the 2 seconds to think about it.PJ_Soul said:
Anyone using the phrase "out of your cotton picking mind" without recognizing its racist roots needs to be way more self aware. That term is so blatantly racist. How common it is is irrelevant. That just means that a LOT of people are comfortable using a blatantly racist term, or are at least way too oblivious about the words coming out of their mouths (as was already pointed out, the pot calling the kettle black has no racist overtone whatsoever).mace1229 said:
I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.oftenreading said:
“Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of.mace1229 said:
Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.Gern Blansten said:
yeah how fucked up is that?Spiritual_Chaos said:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
I was talking to a friend about this earlier today, racist things we say that many don’t know are racist. “ getting gypped” (many spell it jipped because they don’t know it’s about Gypsies), “no can do,” “long time no see” “sold down the river” are all sayings I grew up hearing and didn’t realize they were racist until someone told me they were. My friend also told me where she grew up they called peep holes “Jewholes” and never knew it had anything to do with Jews because she always thought of it as “Joo-hole” until as an adult someone pointed it out to her. How many sayings do you have that you have no idea of the origin? I imagine just like everyone else there’s a lot.
So I can’t come down on someone too hard for not knowing one if they unintentionally use one.
i also imagine most here have used one of those examples I just gave not knowing their racial origins.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
Just did a google search and found that you can add “cakewalk” and “takes the cake” to the list of everyday sayings with racists origins.0
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The Juggler said:Being a Trump supporter means having to find excuses for racist nonsense on a daily basis...
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I agree in theory, but if they did that, I'm quite sure Trump would just ban them. It's a real catch-22. The press really needs to do this, but if they do, the Trump-anti-media problem would get so much worse. I'm sure some of the press don't do it for more personal, selfish, wimpy reasons. But I think many of them don't do it because they think not doing it just might be in everyone's best interests in the long term.... But at the end of the day, I believe they're wrong not to do it, since not doing it will still lead to the same results, it'll just take longer, and the press will be open to some of the blame.HughFreakingDillon said:
the media in the daily briefings need to band together and start taking this admin to task.The Juggler said:Smellyman said:The Juggler said:He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview. He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.
Exactly. This was for his hundredth day in office. Then he did the Lester Holt interview a few weeks later where he basically admitted to obstructing justice and then I don't believe he has done any other non friendly interviews (unless I'm forgetting a GMA one with Stephanopoulus?). Plus he has not given a proper press conference since his second month in office.They try to make it seem like he is really accessible by having the pool shout questions to him when he's walking to Marine One or something but the reality is he is scared to death of actual journalists.
Someone should ask Sarah Sanders, on a daily basis, what the president is so scare of.
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what I mean by band together is, if SS refuses to give a real answer to a tough question, the rest of the room should remain silent until she answers it or closes down the briefing. There really is zero substance to these briefings in any meaningful way anyway, and SS has them all by the balls because she knows they all just want more tv time, and they are willing to sell out their colleagues to get it. they aren't getting respect because none of them are commanding it. they are trump's lemmings because they are allowing themselves to be.
the press used to be about getting to the truth, not getting more air time.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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Come...the...fuck...on...mace1229 said:
I get what your saying, but I think it’s completey understandable how and why people don’t think or realize it’s racist. And how common it is plays a big factor. If such phrases are common it’s easy to never even consider the origin. There are hundreds of every day sayings that I’ve never given 2 seconds as to where they came from. Yes, if I stop for a second to think about “cotton pickin” it’s easy to see the racial origins, but there’s so many of these little sayings it is understandable and easy to believe someone doesn’t take the 2 seconds to think about it.PJ_Soul said:
Anyone using the phrase "out of your cotton picking mind" without recognizing its racist roots needs to be way more self aware. That term is so blatantly racist. How common it is is irrelevant. That just means that a LOT of people are comfortable using a blatantly racist term, or are at least way too oblivious about the words coming out of their mouths (as was already pointed out, the pot calling the kettle black has no racist overtone whatsoever).mace1229 said:
I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.oftenreading said:
“Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of.mace1229 said:
Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.Gern Blansten said:
yeah how fucked up is that?Spiritual_Chaos said:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
I was talking to a friend about this earlier today, racist things we say that many don’t know are racist. “ getting gypped” (many spell it jipped because they don’t know it’s about Gypsies), “no can do,” “long time no see” “sold down the river” are all sayings I grew up hearing and didn’t realize they were racist until someone told me they were. My friend also told me where she grew up they called peep holes “Jewholes” and never knew it had anything to do with Jews because she always thought of it as “Joo-hole” until as an adult someone pointed it out to her. How many sayings do you have that you have no idea of the origin? I imagine just like everyone else there’s a lot.
So I can’t come down on someone too hard for not knowing one if they unintentionally use one.
i also imagine most here have used one of those examples I just gave not knowing their racial origins."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Good point. You convinced me.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Come...the...fuck...on...mace1229 said:
I get what your saying, but I think it’s completey understandable how and why people don’t think or realize it’s racist. And how common it is plays a big factor. If such phrases are common it’s easy to never even consider the origin. There are hundreds of every day sayings that I’ve never given 2 seconds as to where they came from. Yes, if I stop for a second to think about “cotton pickin” it’s easy to see the racial origins, but there’s so many of these little sayings it is understandable and easy to believe someone doesn’t take the 2 seconds to think about it.PJ_Soul said:
Anyone using the phrase "out of your cotton picking mind" without recognizing its racist roots needs to be way more self aware. That term is so blatantly racist. How common it is is irrelevant. That just means that a LOT of people are comfortable using a blatantly racist term, or are at least way too oblivious about the words coming out of their mouths (as was already pointed out, the pot calling the kettle black has no racist overtone whatsoever).mace1229 said:
I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.oftenreading said:
“Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of.mace1229 said:
Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.Gern Blansten said:
yeah how fucked up is that?Spiritual_Chaos said:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
I was talking to a friend about this earlier today, racist things we say that many don’t know are racist. “ getting gypped” (many spell it jipped because they don’t know it’s about Gypsies), “no can do,” “long time no see” “sold down the river” are all sayings I grew up hearing and didn’t realize they were racist until someone told me they were. My friend also told me where she grew up they called peep holes “Jewholes” and never knew it had anything to do with Jews because she always thought of it as “Joo-hole” until as an adult someone pointed it out to her. How many sayings do you have that you have no idea of the origin? I imagine just like everyone else there’s a lot.
So I can’t come down on someone too hard for not knowing one if they unintentionally use one.
i also imagine most here have used one of those examples I just gave not knowing their racial origins.0 -
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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He apparently didn’t mention Michael Cohen once tonight but was able to find the time for these four segments:
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