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  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Sounds like a Zeitgest outtake...
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,148
    Wma31394 said:
    Sounds like a Zeitgest outtake...
    yeah it does.  sounds ok.
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  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    I don’t mind it at all.
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Wma31394 said:
    Sounds like a Zeitgest outtake...
    yeah it does.  sounds ok.


    sounds a little more Zeitgesty than I am comfortable with. honestly I was expected much more as the first single.

    C'mon guys!!!

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    I'm not very familiar with Zeitgest, so I think the new song sounds pretty damn good. Better than anything I expected, really.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    It’s not that bad but if I was at the show you could find me at the bar or urinal when they played it.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    edited June 2018
    It’s not that bad but if I was at the show you could find me at the bar or urinal when they played it.
    Wow, lol, to me that means it's terrible.
    I dunno - I did have really low expectations... I think I always have really low expectations when Billy Corgan is involved. That isn't even fair, because then he keeps exceeding my expectations in terms of the music produced ... but then I continue to have low expectations anyhow, lol. I guess that's what happens to good artists who are huge, unbearable dipshits. :lol:
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    PJ_Soul said:
    It’s not that bad but if I was at the show you could find me at the bar or urinal when they played it.
    Wow, lol, to me that means it's terrible.
    I dunno - I did have really low expectations... I think I always have really low expectations when Billy Corgan is involved. That isn't even fair, because then he keeps exceeding my expectations in terms of the music produced ... but then I continue to have low expectations anyhow, lol. I guess that's what happens to good artists who are huge, unbearable dipshits. :lol:
    Yeah- I mean to me it’s kinda how I feel about  you can’t deny me. One listen is good enough for me, and I slid the bar pretty much all the way to the end to see if it got any better.  It didn’t. Billy’s voice sounds off or out of tune or too loud.  One of the three or perhaps all three.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    it also immediately struck me as a zeitgeist throwaway. not impressed as a first single. billy needed to blow us out of the water with this one, with all the hype and nonsense. he did not. 
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195

    well. the song def sounded better live on TV last night.

    not a fan of Rick Rubin's production on heavier songs.

    did a good job with Johnny Cash, Billy's solo and Tom Petty. but I think his production on Slayer sounds really dated.

    guess I will reserve judgment until I hear more songs from these sessions.

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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    edited June 2018
    Post edited by Dr. Delight on
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    Wow, that video is right up your alley Brian! ;)
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    I am loving the setlist from last night!!!

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    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

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    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    This and the set list from last night has me beyond ready and excited for the tour.  Can’t wait!
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    what hell did I just watch?
  • kasedoug
    kasedoug The Golden State Posts: 3,011
    lolobugg said:
    I am loving the setlist from last night!!!
    Was lucky enough to be invited to the show last night by a buddy who won tickets. It was a great show. My first time actually seeing SP. I really enjoyed it and you really couldn't top seeing them in that small of a venue. Seemed like they were in really good spirits and enjoying themselves.
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    kasedoug said:
    lolobugg said:
    I am loving the setlist from last night!!!
    Was lucky enough to be invited to the show last night by a buddy who won tickets. It was a great show. My first time actually seeing SP. I really enjoyed it and you really couldn't top seeing them in that small of a venue. Seemed like they were in really good spirits and enjoying themselves.

    I have had the opportunity to see the original band at small clubs like Bogarts and at the Metro.

    Those were awesome experiences. Glad you got to see them at a small place.  

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    1995- New Orleans, LA  : New Orleans, LA

    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • thispureamericanriot
    thispureamericanriot California Posts: 514
    goldrush said:
    New track, ‘Solara’...
    It’s actually not that bad.

    https://youtu.be/rx9ya42QLXs
    This new track is okay...not the "return" to form" I was expecting (audio sounds very dry). I really liked Oceania (2012), but did not care for Momuments to an Elegy (2014). I saw the Pumpkins play with Garbage back in 1995 and it was a great show! But that was 20+ years ago and we can't expect artists to be 27yo forever. ;) I'm gonna hope for the best, but expect the worst on this new album. But I'm excited to hear what they'll come out with!
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    PJ_Soul said:
    Wow, that video is right up your alley Brian! ;)
    :bee:
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.