Roseanne Barr
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His tweet...mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
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Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.0 -
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
So you are saying joking around with your friends is the same as going on tv or twitter to bash someone you don't agree with? Seriously? You all have gone batshit crazy in trying to defend this lady for her terrible remarks.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.hippiemom = goodness0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.Good call, he should have just said guns.
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And somehow I got called a racist in the process. I have no clue why I even post here sometimes.cincybearcat said:
So you are saying joking around with your friends is the same as going on tv or twitter to bash someone you don't agree with? Seriously? You all have gone batshit crazy in trying to defend this lady for her terrible remarks.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Or you are all to damn defense and dense to see that I merely posted an article and asked a question.benjs said:mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Ok, yes, you can be upset about both and all, but I don't think that is what anyone is arguing against. The main point is that name calling, while rude and childish, does not garner the same impact. You find calling someone the C-word horrible, why? You are obviously entitled to your opinion and have every right to be mad about it, but in the scheme of things, who cares? I wouldn't care if Kellyanne called Hillary the same name, but I'm sure some hardcore liberals might feign the same outrage conservatives are spewing now over Bee.cincybearcat said:So since it appears people on AMT have lost their collective minds due to trump overload... let me run it down for you:
1) you can be upset/outraged whatever you want to call it about Rosanne and believe it was a racist tweet and...
2) still think Samantha Bee using the c-word on TBS in reference to another woman is horrible and....
3) think it was terrible when Rush and others attacked a young Chelsea Clinton in horrible ways and...
4) think that the US needs gun control.
I would have thought it was obvious but since everyone is deflecting maybe it wasn’t.
Much like Bee, Ivanka is an adult and her actions and choices are going to be criticized and may outrage people to the point of where they say some vulgar things which are in direct correlation to their action/inaction on certain issues.
It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Well, in fairness, you were pretty vague and did not outright state what your opinion was on the issue. To me it seemed like you were trying to point out some sort of hypocrisy, but maybe I'm wrong.mcgruff10 said:
Or you are all to damn defense and dense to see that I merely posted an article and asked a question.benjs said:mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.
As for Bee getting fired, I don't care either way, that is up to the company she works for. I also don't think calling someone a feckless cunt is near as inappropriate as comparing a black person to an ape.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Ask Kat why that name calling is rude, vulgar and awful.....cause if I called you that I'd get a warning / ban here wouldn't I? Words like that are intended to dehumanize the person being attacked. That's not a good thing. She could have said any number of profane words and it wouldn't be as big a deal....she went for 1 of the worst words she could think of to get attention....and it worked, just not the attention she wanted.tbergs said:
Ok, yes, you can be upset about both and all, but I don't think that is what anyone is arguing against. The main point is that name calling, while rude and childish, does not garner the same impact. You find calling someone the C-word horrible, why? You are obviously entitled to your opinion and have every right to be mad about it, but in the scheme of things, who cares? I wouldn't care if Kellyanne called Hillary the same name, but I'm sure some hardcore liberals might feign the same outrage conservatives are spewing now over Bee.cincybearcat said:So since it appears people on AMT have lost their collective minds due to trump overload... let me run it down for you:
1) you can be upset/outraged whatever you want to call it about Rosanne and believe it was a racist tweet and...
2) still think Samantha Bee using the c-word on TBS in reference to another woman is horrible and....
3) think it was terrible when Rush and others attacked a young Chelsea Clinton in horrible ways and...
4) think that the US needs gun control.
I would have thought it was obvious but since everyone is deflecting maybe it wasn’t.
Much like Bee, Ivanka is an adult and her actions and choices are going to be criticized and may outrage people to the point of where they say some vulgar things which are in direct correlation to their action/inaction on certain issues.hippiemom = goodness0 -
tbergs said:
Well, in fairness, you were pretty vague and did not outright state what your opinion was on the issue. To me it seemed like you were trying to point out some sort of hypocrisy, but maybe I'm wrong.mcgruff10 said:
Or you are all to damn defense and dense to see that I merely posted an article and asked a question.benjs said:mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.
As for Bee getting fired, I don't care either way, that is up to the company she works for. I also don't think calling someone a feckless cunt is near as inappropriate as comparing a black person to an ape.It should also be up to her employer whether or not she gets fired. (& if that comes as a result of public sentiment or losing sponsors, then so be it)
When the Executive Branch of our government starts suggesting someone should get fired for something they said, THAT is a violation of the 1st amendment.0 -
I certainly don;t think it's a fireable offense in my opinion. But it's a data point for future discussion. Then again, they have to weigh the damage she caused them vs the benefit and make that decision. I do think it is HIGHLY inappropriate for the President to call for her to be fired. Awful abuse of power.....again.tbergs said:
Well, in fairness, you were pretty vague and did not outright state what your opinion was on the issue. To me it seemed like you were trying to point out some sort of hypocrisy, but maybe I'm wrong.mcgruff10 said:
Or you are all to damn defense and dense to see that I merely posted an article and asked a question.benjs said:mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.
As for Bee getting fired, I don't care either way, that is up to the company she works for. I also don't think calling someone a feckless cunt is near as inappropriate as comparing a black person to an ape.hippiemom = goodness0 -
at this point, i'd say give Roseanne back her show. let's stop being a country of prudes that care more about words than the real issues. after all, its not easy to find stuff to laugh about.0
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mcgruff10 said:
Or you are all to damn defense and dense to see that I merely posted an article and asked a question.benjs said:mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.
-A statement is made equating black people and apes
-A statement is made by someone else equating Ivanka Trump and a vagina
-You ask a question: if Point A led to a firing, shouldn't Point B lead to a firing?
-People conclude if you're asking for the same result, then the actions are proportional
-You get confused by this conclusion.
I don't know what more to say. If you can't follow this basic 'if this then that' logic, there's no point in anyone here wasting their time on this topic with you.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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I get it. I would never encourage or want my kids to make comments in such a way about someone they disagree with, but I think it all comes down to context. If there was a social, cultural or legal issue you and I disagreed on and your choices were further leading to a harmful impact on others, at some point I would either have to choose to just drop it and walk away or call you out on it full on. I think you are right, Bee went for a phrase she knew would fully convey her disgust. I can't say I would probably ever do that, but I'm not a TV personality trying to get the message through to others who may not fully comprehend the damage these types of decisions, or lack there of, have on society.cincybearcat said:
Ask Kat why that name calling is rude, vulgar and awful.....cause if I called you that I'd get a warning / ban here wouldn't I? Words like that are intended to dehumanize the person being attacked. That's not a good thing. She could have said any number of profane words and it wouldn't be as big a deal....she went for 1 of the worst words she could think of to get attention....and it worked, just not the attention she wanted.tbergs said:
Ok, yes, you can be upset about both and all, but I don't think that is what anyone is arguing against. The main point is that name calling, while rude and childish, does not garner the same impact. You find calling someone the C-word horrible, why? You are obviously entitled to your opinion and have every right to be mad about it, but in the scheme of things, who cares? I wouldn't care if Kellyanne called Hillary the same name, but I'm sure some hardcore liberals might feign the same outrage conservatives are spewing now over Bee.cincybearcat said:So since it appears people on AMT have lost their collective minds due to trump overload... let me run it down for you:
1) you can be upset/outraged whatever you want to call it about Rosanne and believe it was a racist tweet and...
2) still think Samantha Bee using the c-word on TBS in reference to another woman is horrible and....
3) think it was terrible when Rush and others attacked a young Chelsea Clinton in horrible ways and...
4) think that the US needs gun control.
I would have thought it was obvious but since everyone is deflecting maybe it wasn’t.
Much like Bee, Ivanka is an adult and her actions and choices are going to be criticized and may outrage people to the point of where they say some vulgar things which are in direct correlation to their action/inaction on certain issues.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
That s a big assumption bud but point noted, if you are vague and don’t outright state your opinion than you are automatically a racist.tbergs said:
Well, in fairness, you were pretty vague and did not outright state what your opinion was on the issue. To me it seemed like you were trying to point out some sort of hypocrisy, but maybe I'm wrong.mcgruff10 said:
Or you are all to damn defense and dense to see that I merely posted an article and asked a question.benjs said:mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.
As for Bee getting fired, I don't care either way, that is up to the company she works for. I also don't think calling someone a feckless cunt is near as inappropriate as comparing a black person to an ape.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Whoa, now. I never said or thought you were a racist. I stated that your question and opinion on the two being similar was being vaguely implied, not that you agreed with either.mcgruff10 said:
That s a big assumption bud but point noted, if you are vague and don’t outright state your opinion than you are automatically a racist.tbergs said:
Well, in fairness, you were pretty vague and did not outright state what your opinion was on the issue. To me it seemed like you were trying to point out some sort of hypocrisy, but maybe I'm wrong.mcgruff10 said:
Or you are all to damn defense and dense to see that I merely posted an article and asked a question.benjs said:mcgruff10 said:
Excuse me? Where did I ever say such a thing or even imply it? I merely posted an article and asked if the woman should also be fired since she used an offensive word on national tv.dignin said:
Well you seem to think that calling black people apes is on par with someone calling someone else a cunt. And if that's not the case then why did you bring it up?mcgruff10 said:
To me the word is totally different.benjs said:
Do you avoid calling your male friends dicks as well? And tell me which nations suggest it’s ‘culturally appropriate’ to refer to black people as apes?mcgruff10 said:
Automatic weapons? At least know what you are talking about before making a tweet.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And yes there are such things as cultural differences, that's why the word cunt as always been a very offensive word to me and a hell of a lot of people living here in the states.
His tweet is apples and oranges.
I have no clue which nation says it is cultural appropriate to refer to black people as apes.
This thread is about a woman who was fired for comparing black people to apes. You responded by asking if a woman who used a derogatory word on television should also be fired. If you can't see why people would perceive that as your suggestion that those two acts are on par with each other, then you're not being logical, honest, or both.
As for Bee getting fired, I don't care either way, that is up to the company she works for. I also don't think calling someone a feckless cunt is near as inappropriate as comparing a black person to an ape.It's a hopeless situation...0
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