The Concept of God
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my2hands said:RYME said:PJ_Soul said:RYME said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2&version=KJV
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RYME said:my2hands said:RYME said:PJ_Soul said:RYME said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2&version=KJV0 -
What RYME is referring to I'm pretty sure is The Rapture (there is actually no reference to the word "rapture" in the Bible- I'm not sure where that term comes from). My understanding is that many chuches no longer teach about a "Rapture". In fact, according to the article linked below, the concept was invented by a man named John Darby. And according to this article:the Rapture has not been taught in Christian churches for 90% of church history.I guess anything is possible and I would not go so far as to personally insult anyone who believes in it, but I would say that this kind of teaching/thinking probably does more harm than good in the long run. According to Christianity Today, only 1/3 of pastors believe Christians will be raptured.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
What if God was one of us?Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140
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Thoughts_Arrive said:What if God was one of us?
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brianlux said:Thoughts_Arrive said:What if God was one of us?
Was trying to start a sing along... lolAdelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140 -
brianlux said:What RYME is referring to I'm pretty sure is The Rapture (there is actually no reference to the word "rapture" in the Bible- I'm not sure where that term comes from). My understanding is that many chuches no longer teach about a "Rapture". In fact, according to the article linked below, the concept was invented by a man named John Darby. And according to this article:the Rapture has not been taught in Christian churches for 90% of church history.I guess anything is possible and I would not go so far as to personally insult anyone who believes in it, but I would say that this kind of teaching/thinking probably does more harm than good in the long run. According to Christianity Today, only 1/3 of pastors believe Christians will be raptured.
The word rapture isn't in the Bible.
The Rapture Theory started around 1830 because of a woman name that Margaret McDonald.
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PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
i cannot really fathom how you don't see how utterly contradictory those statements are.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
RYME said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.Post edited by HughFreakingDillon onBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Thoughts_Arrive said:What if God was one of us?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
i cannot really fathom how you don't see how utterly contradictory those statements are.
One is a theoey based on advanced and incredible volumes of collected and tested knowledge from a rigourous system of reason, logic, and accountability.
The other is a proclaimed certainty delivered by revelation which is utterly fraught with contradictions and glaring impossibilities.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
my point is, there's no way for me to know either way. there's no way for anyone to know. belief and knowledge are two different things. language is important.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
RYME said:brianlux said:What RYME is referring to I'm pretty sure is The Rapture (there is actually no reference to the word "rapture" in the Bible- I'm not sure where that term comes from). My understanding is that many chuches no longer teach about a "Rapture". In fact, according to the article linked below, the concept was invented by a man named John Darby. And according to this article:the Rapture has not been taught in Christian churches for 90% of church history.I guess anything is possible and I would not go so far as to personally insult anyone who believes in it, but I would say that this kind of teaching/thinking probably does more harm than good in the long run. According to Christianity Today, only 1/3 of pastors believe Christians will be raptured.
The word rapture isn't in the Bible.
The Rapture Theory started around 1830 because of a woman name that Margaret McDonald.Oops, sorry for the mistaken assumption, RYME!If not the Rapture, what were you referring to if I might ask?"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
rgambs said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
i cannot really fathom how you don't see how utterly contradictory those statements are.
One is a theoey based on advanced and incredible volumes of collected and tested knowledge from a rigourous system of reason, logic, and accountability.
The other is a proclaimed certainty delivered by revelation which is utterly fraught with contradictions and glaring impossibilities.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
rgambs said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
i cannot really fathom how you don't see how utterly contradictory those statements are.
One is a theoey based on advanced and incredible volumes of collected and tested knowledge from a rigourous system of reason, logic, and accountability.
The other is a proclaimed certainty delivered by revelation which is utterly fraught with contradictions and glaring impossibilities.
By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
rgambs said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
i cannot really fathom how you don't see how utterly contradictory those statements are.
One is a theoey based on advanced and incredible volumes of collected and tested knowledge from a rigourous system of reason, logic, and accountability.
The other is a proclaimed certainty delivered by revelation which is utterly fraught with contradictions and glaring impossibilities.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
so does that make it possible that the characters in video games are self-aware? LOLBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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brianlux said:RYME said:brianlux said:What RYME is referring to I'm pretty sure is The Rapture (there is actually no reference to the word "rapture" in the Bible- I'm not sure where that term comes from). My understanding is that many chuches no longer teach about a "Rapture". In fact, according to the article linked below, the concept was invented by a man named John Darby. And according to this article:the Rapture has not been taught in Christian churches for 90% of church history.I guess anything is possible and I would not go so far as to personally insult anyone who believes in it, but I would say that this kind of teaching/thinking probably does more harm than good in the long run. According to Christianity Today, only 1/3 of pastors believe Christians will be raptured.
The word rapture isn't in the Bible.
The Rapture Theory started around 1830 because of a woman name that Margaret McDonald.Oops, sorry for the mistaken assumption, RYME!If not the Rapture, what were you referring to if I might ask?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE
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HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
i cannot really fathom how you don't see how utterly contradictory those statements are.
One is a theoey based on advanced and incredible volumes of collected and tested knowledge from a rigourous system of reason, logic, and accountability.
The other is a proclaimed certainty delivered by revelation which is utterly fraught with contradictions and glaring impossibilities.
It is about "holographic projection", yes, but that's only a way of describing a mathematical model that people can understand, it isn't literal.
It's that huge distance between devising concrete notions of creation by a sentient God and searching endlessly for new and more accurate ways of describing the universe as we understand it that makes such a huge difference in the rationality of believing.
Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
rgambs said:HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:And I choose logic, and therefore assert that the concept of the existence of God is ludicrous. I can be 100% secure and confident in that assertion. But you seem to have a problem with that, even though you make the exact same claim about your ideas.
i cannot really fathom how you don't see how utterly contradictory those statements are.
One is a theoey based on advanced and incredible volumes of collected and tested knowledge from a rigourous system of reason, logic, and accountability.
The other is a proclaimed certainty delivered by revelation which is utterly fraught with contradictions and glaring impossibilities.
It is about "holographic projection", yes, but that's only a way of describing a mathematical model that people can understand, it isn't literal.
It's that huge distance between devising concrete notions of creation by a sentient God and searching endlessly for new and more accurate ways of describing the universe as we understand it that makes such a huge difference in the rationality of believing.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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