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Am I happy that the hostages were released? Absolutely. However, I'm not sure Team Trump Treason had a damn thing to do with any of it. He spouted off about fire and fury and using armed conflict to bring about regime change and tweaking an Obama era sanction. The South and North Koreans would have paid a heavy price if such rhetoric became fruition. Also, Team Trump Treason hadn't nominated or appointed a US ambassador to the South, which had to have left the South feeling like they weren't very high on the Team Trump Treason priority list (Team Trump Treason subsequently poached the ambassador to Australia to fill in, leaving the Australian's miffed). As such, the South Koreans realized they had to "lead by example." How'd they do that? They invited Un to the Olympics (which Team Trump Treason subsequently took credit for the success of) and opened their own negotiations with the North. Once Team Trump Treason saw that he was being left out and leading from behind, he suddenly changed his tune to, "I'll meet with the very honorable Un." Now, while the release of the hostages is certainly a good thing, I think it was the South Koreans and perhaps China that convinced Un to do it as a good will gesture. Team Trump Treason had nothing to do with it. Now, Team Trump Treason is crowing about how great he is while simultaneously withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal, with no alternative in place, and willing to meet with Un. I have little faith that Team Trump Treason can be trusted to negotiate anything, renege on any agreement and that somehow, he's being totally played by all sides on this. South Korea giving him credit? Its called stroking TTT's ego. The Chinese? they're in the driver's seat, along with Russia, the two countries that have the most to gain and little to lose, unless war breaks out or there is a flood of refugees to China. North Korea? What exactly have they given up? What have they gained? Prestige, a face to face with a sitting US president and a small nuclear arsenal. All for releasing 3 seized US citizens. Pretty high ROI, wouldn't you say? And what has the US gotten? Three released seized US citizens, again, a great thing but a far cry from "a denuclearized NK." Now TTT is announcing the DMZ is out as the site for the meeting but also saying a site has been selected and he'll make an announcement in 3 days. Its PT Barnum at the helm trying desperately to keep Cohen and Russian collusion off the front page. And PJSoul's comments about TTT are spot on.
The "very honorable Un."Fred and Cindy Warmbier filed the suit in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. It says the Warmbiers are seeking “to obtain justice" and that North Korea's conduct was criminal, extreme and malicious.
“North Korea, which is a rogue regime, took Otto hostage for its own wrongful ends and brutally tortured and murdered him,” the lawsuit says.
“Otto was taken hostage, kept as a prisoner for political purposes, used as a pawn and singled out for exceptionally harsh and brutal treatment by Kim Jong Un," Warmbier's father, Fred, said in a statement. "Kim and his regime have portrayed themselves as innocent, while they intentionally destroyed our son’s life. This lawsuit is another step in holding North Korea accountable for its barbaric treatment of Otto and our family."
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The Iran deal ends, NK sends 3 hostages home the same day coincidence? I don't think so.0
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where did anyone say 3 hostages coming home was a bad thing?
seems people are quick to forget they were TAKEN HOSTAGE to start... and a recent hostage was tortured to death...
you think some rocket man tweets saved the world? fucking laughable, everyone has been played from the beginning... I even think the Hawaiian false alarm is fishy... feel free to keep thinking the reality TV star saved the day, he knows more than the generals after all
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my2hands said:
where did anyone say 3 hostages coming home was a bad thing?
seems people are quick to forget they were TAKEN HOSTAGE to start... and a recent hostage was tortured to death...
you think some rocket man tweets saved the world? fucking laughable, everyone has been played from the beginning... I even think the Hawaiian false alarm is fishy... feel free to keep thinking the reality TV star saved the day, he knows more than the generals after all
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my2hands said:
where did anyone say 3 hostages coming home was a bad thing?
seems people are quick to forget they were TAKEN HOSTAGE to start... and a recent hostage was tortured to death...
you think some rocket man tweets saved the world? fucking laughable, everyone has been played from the beginning... I even think the Hawaiian false alarm is fishy... feel free to keep thinking the reality TV star saved the day, he knows more than the generals after all
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Wonder if the prisoners who were released care who was responsible for their freedom?Give Peas A Chance…0
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Meltdown99 said:Wonder if the prisoners who were released care who was responsible for their freedom?
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Meltdown99 said:Wonder if the prisoners who were released care who was responsible for their freedom?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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PJ_Soul said:Meltdown99 said:Wonder if the prisoners who were released care who was responsible for their freedom?Give Peas A Chance…0
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Meltdown99 said:PJ_Soul said:Meltdown99 said:Wonder if the prisoners who were released care who was responsible for their freedom?
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I’m not even sure anyone on here gave trump praise or credit for the hostages’ release (i sure didn’t). I do know the first post was about the release announcement and the next thing you know, everyone starts saying trump is an ass hole. Where did that come from? It’s weird to me. We could get a news flash saying a scientist cured cancer and everyone would say trump sucks and why does he deserve credit. Lol. I’ll let the more brilliant minds discuss this one.0
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bbiggs said:I’m not even sure anyone on here gave trump praise or credit for the hostages’ release (i sure didn’t). I do know the first post was about the release announcement and the next thing you know, everyone starts saying trump is an ass hole. Where did that come from? It’s weird to me. We could get a news flash saying a scientist cured cancer and everyone would say trump sucks and why does he deserve credit. Lol. I’ll let the more brilliant minds discuss this one.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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bbiggs said:I’m not even sure anyone on here gave trump praise or credit for the hostages’ release (i sure didn’t). I do know the first post was about the release announcement and the next thing you know, everyone starts saying trump is an ass hole. Where did that come from? It’s weird to me. We could get a news flash saying a scientist cured cancer and everyone would say trump sucks and why does he deserve credit. Lol. I’ll let the more brilliant minds discuss this one.
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Trump is killing it. Even with 90% of the media that people sop up with a spoon in this country spewing hate and negative things on a daily basis for ratings, he keeps at it. There’s no one else I know who could whether that daily storm like he does and not break down. He sure says and tweets a lot of stupid shit lol but he definitely saved those people’s lives- whatever’s left after Un fucked with them, anyway.
I still read these angry threads and laugh my ass off at how upset everyone is for no reason. No one on this board has been personally affected by any of Trump’s moves- well, except for a few more bucks in their paychecks prob or if they’re a tranny in the military maybe or the live where that pipeline is supposed to go- but he’s still so vile and ruining our country and we’ll never survive and oh treason and dots and Russia yadda yadda yadda... yawn, you guys are sure entertaining!I'm like an opening band for your mom.0 -
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Yes PJ soul said it exactly right.
"No matter what, Trump can never be legitimized." .No matter what. Talk about closed-mindedness.
The inability to admit when you are legitimately wrong is extremely dangerous.
How about him being a birther on Obama he never has admitted how wrong he was ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Trump is killing it. Even with 90% of the media that people sop up with a spoon in this country spewing hate and negative things on a daily basis for ratings, he keeps at it. There’s no one else I know who could whether that daily storm like he does and not break down. He sure says and tweets a lot of stupid shit lol but he definitely saved those people’s lives- whatever’s left after Un fucked with them, anyway.
I still read these angry threads and laugh my ass off at how upset everyone is for no reason. No one on this board has been personally affected by any of Trump’s moves- well, except for a few more bucks in their paychecks prob or if they’re a tranny in the military maybe or the live where that pipeline is supposed to go- but he’s still so vile and ruining our country and we’ll never survive and oh treason and dots and Russia yadda yadda yadda... yawn, you guys are sure entertaining!
No, people are not upset for no reason, and yes, many people have been personally affected by Trump's moves, including people on these boards; you have some nerve making that statement as if you actually know. Your post kind of blows my mind with its ignorance (it it willful?). I'm also rather surprised that you apparently couldn't care less about corruption in government. Bizarre. I actually thought you were being sarcastic when I started reading your post, lol.
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RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Trump is killing it. Even with 90% of the media that people sop up with a spoon in this country spewing hate and negative things on a daily basis for ratings, he keeps at it. There’s no one else I know who could whether that daily storm like he does and not break down. He sure says and tweets a lot of stupid shit lol but he definitely saved those people’s lives- whatever’s left after Un fucked with them, anyway.
I still read these angry threads and laugh my ass off at how upset everyone is for no reason. No one on this board has been personally affected by any of Trump’s moves- well, except for a few more bucks in their paychecks prob or if they’re a tranny in the military maybe or the live where that pipeline is supposed to go- but he’s still so vile and ruining our country and we’ll never survive and oh treason and dots and Russia yadda yadda yadda... yawn, you guys are sure entertaining!
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Having a science denier run the EPA bothers the fuck out of me...
Having Rick Perry run ther DOE bothers the fuck out of me...
Having Ben Carson run HUD bothers the fuck out of me...
Having Russia openly meddle in my elections bothers the fuck out of me...
Handing the 1% a massive taxcut while bankrupting the country bothers the fuck out of me...
Disrespecting and distancing ourselves from our allies bothers the fuck out of me...
Having an ignorant, name calling, bullying, racist, loud mouth as my President REALLY bothers the fuck out of me.... great example he sets
I could go on for days on why I dislike Trump, his leadership style, and his policies...
Lemme guess, Foxnews is the only real news, right?
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I am much happier in his supporters chanting nobel, nobel!! rather than be chanting, fire and fury!!!!
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I don’t care if you want to rail against everything Trump does, or support everything he does. Politics have become toxic. But I’ll be damned if you can honestly say anything negative about this.
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