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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    more on the white helmets ... https://twitter.com/WhiteHelmetsEXP

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,011
    polaris_x said:
    google organ harvesting syria isis ... these are the people us so called "assad apologists" are fighting ... 
    and now ladies and gentlemen, we’ve veered off into organ harvesting. What’s next? Comet Pizza franchises?
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  • my2hands
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    https://areomagazine.com/2016/12/16/exposing-the-apologetics-for-assad-and-putin/

    Exposing the Apologetics for Assad and Putin

    Eva Bartlett, an ‘independent’ Canadian journalist, stole the hearts of the anti-war Left in her account of what was really happening in Syria in a now-viral video clip from a UN press conference. Maintaining, among other things, that Syrian civilians overwhelmingly support Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and that the mainstream media’s account of the Syrian Civil War is simply pro-regime change propaganda, her position — and her condescending attitude — reflect the moral failings of the prevalent libertarian and anti-war Left movements when faced with humanitarian disasters.

    The UN event where Bartlett made her statements, however, wasn’t a General Assembly meeting or anything remotely as significant, it was a panel hosted by the Hands Off Syria Coalition and the US Peace Council –– two overtly biased anti-Western nonprofit organizations. Fewer than a dozen people were in attendance.

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    Bartlett is also not an “independent” journalist: she is a contributor to RT, the state-sponsored news network of Russia. On her personal blog, she explicitly professes her support for the Assad regime:

    “I support Syria against a ‘civil’ war that is funded, armed and planned by the western powers and their regional allies with a view to wiping out all resistance to imperialism in the Middle East…”

    Not only does she conveniently brush aside, as though they were fringe details, Russia’s leveling of hospitals in Aleppo, its decimation of UN aid convoys, and Bashar al Assad’s use of chemical weapons against civilians, she further goes on to claim that there are no international organizations on the ground in Syria, that the civilian victims in Aleppo are “recycled actors,” and that the Al-Quds hospital, which had been bombed in the Spring of 2016, had not actually been bombed, despite the incident having been confirmed in a report by Doctors Without Borders, who have been working closely on the ground in Syria with the Al-Quds Hospital for over four years. Snopes also put out a recent piece, branding Barlett’s claims as “false.”

    It is very telling that Bartlett is not only suspiciously selective in her narrative, but completely denies reality. The amount of mental gymnastics necessary to convince herself that Bashar al Assad and Vladimir Putin are not the bad guys is astonishing. Bartlett has resorted to claiming that the countless civilian children in Aleppo are simply actors, notwithstanding the fact that “Aya” is a very common name in Syria. She has denied well-documented accounts from international organizations (who she maintains are not even there in the first place) as to the unending list of crimes committed by Russia and Syria. She doesn’t even so much as raise an eyebrow at the fact that Mr. Assad won the recent elections in Syria — and only in government-controlled parts of Syria — with almost 90% of the vote, and instead, assumes that to mean that he is a favorable leader. She would likely be shocked to learn what was in store for the people who didn’t vote for Assad.

    Further, Bartlett attempts to preemptively administer culpability to the United States for the chaos in Syria. Not for its inaction or its failure to intervene, which would have been a fair criticism to make, but for actions and mistakes it has yet to even make. To Bartlett and other so-called “anti-imperialist” Assad apologists, massacring hundreds of thousands of civilians, torturing and executing dissidents, and destroying entire cities is preferable to the United States and the West even doing so much as looking in the direction of Syria.

    Though hardly anybody was in attendance at the actual press conference, Bartlett’s sentiments don’t fall on deaf ears. For many Americans, to even mention humanitarian military intervention is an irredeemable sin practiced by only the most sinister neoconservative war-hawks.

    Without a doubt, a large contributing factor to the election of Donald Trump was the large number of Americans who were completely disenchanted by even the thought of another military intervention after the long and costly operations in Iraq and Afghanistan which, by the end, were widely seen as unsuccessful endeavors.

    Having gone a step further than simply voting against a hawkish Hillary Clinton, many have internalized Donald Trump’s prospective plans to reconcile our relationship with Russia and have become complacent with the idea of joint cooperation with the Kremlin.

    Over the last several years, Putin has been quietly testing the waters. Having invaded Crimea in 2014, flattened hospitals in Aleppo, and allowed his friend Mr. Assad to murder his own people with chemical weapons, he has taken notice of the fact that Washington has hardly lifted a finger in response, thus enabling him to keep doing what he is doing.

    For Mr. Putin, the election of Trump could not have come at a better time, as he now effectively has a free pass to call the shots in Syria without reprimand from the US as long as Trump believes that Russia is helping him kill ISIS terrorists. Like Mr. Trump, a striking number of Americans believe that ISIS is the biggest cause for the instability in Syria, and so to them, an alliance with Russia actually sounds like a good thing. However, to allow a primary offenders of human rights abuses, war crimes, and crimes against humanity to remain in power while the US, a wealthy and industrialized democratic superpower, sits by and does nothing is signing Syria’s death warrant.

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Good stuff!
    1. 2013 gas attack per UN: Syrian Rebels
    2. 2017 gas attack US: no proof carried out by Assad
    3. 2018 gas attack, baseless
    4. Colbert and Albright lies about first gas attack and 500,000 Iraqis
    5. Scahill on CNN (my favorite)
    6. NBC firing Donahue #1 rated show Donahue was against Iraq invasion NBC owned by GE
    7. Howard Dean wishing for WW3
    8. John Kerry admitting that the Saudis will pay for US to destroy Syria
    9. PIPELINES and Israel!!!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbWAABd9CV4
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    check this out! MSNBC Columbia Prog Jeff Sax. Classic Dore! I need a mix of humor with heinous.
    the Permanent state calls the shots regardless of who occupies the WH
    The best part he brings up Timber Sycamore, he not supposed to do that! How  many of us Syrian experts know about Timber Sycamore?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2TRzA2ezk


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,011
    JC29856 said:
    check this out! MSNBC Columbia Prog Jeff Sax. Classic Dore! I need a mix of humor with heinous.
    the Permanent state calls the shots regardless of who occupies the WH
    The best part he brings up Timber Sycamore, he not supposed to do that! How  many of us Syrian experts know about Timber Sycamore?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2TRzA2ezk


    Your English and syntax needs work, comrade. Drop the KGB putin putin putin on the ritz speak.
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  • polaris_x
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    it's funny how I've been accused of following conspiracy theories but this is the thing about lies ... it gets harder and harder to maintain it ...

    here's the video of the boy who was in the white helmets video .. as he tells of what happened ... feel free to target the publisher and not address what's actually in the video ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGG3P14WWk

  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    white helmets try to recruit roger waters ... this is the foundation of the so called humanitarian industrial complex ... these groups funded by state departments recruit celebrities by asking to support "humanitarian" causes ...

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-white-helmets-tried-to-recruit-roger-waters-with-saudi-money/240736/

  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    this facade is crumbling ... and you know it to be the case when the corporate media has to launch smear campaigns against journalists who get funded through online donations and patreons ... the thing is ... what used to be 2 or 3 became 5 or 6 ... now, it's much more ... you can't smear them all ... #handsoffsyria
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,011
    Timber sycamore is a funny covert name but if you didn’t know that the CIA was arming and training rebels, including those with Al Qaeda ties, you haven’t been paying attention. But thanks for the news flash that my enemy of my enemy is my friend. Would love to see Team Trump Treason hold a presser and try to explain the current Administration’s Syria policy and the intricacies of the Middle East without stating, “there was no collusion.” What do you think 3D, should I hold my breath?
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  • tbergs
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    polaris_x said:
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



    Here's my response to this. They didn't even get to the site either. The government let them get a few blocks away, but yet the OPCW is stranded and unable to get there. Hmmm, I wonder why? What would make the Syrian govt let someone with OANN see certain things and talk to a select group of citizens who all support Assad. Ironic.


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    tbergs said:
    polaris_x said:
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



    Here's my response to this. They didn't even get to the site either. The government let them get a few blocks away, but yet the OPCW is stranded and unable to get there. Hmmm, I wonder why? What would make the Syrian govt let someone with OANN see certain things and talk to a select group of citizens who all support Assad. Ironic.


    A valid question is why hasn't OPCW been allowed to inspect? I don't know the answer only that the Syrian gov't claimed that the inspectors didn't have proper permits and the sites had to be cleared. Maybe polaris can better answer the question. In any case this doesn't prove the attack happened (refer to DNC servers never inspected by Feds).

    https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/M-59/en/ecm59dg02_e_.pdf

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    You guys realize JIM (Joint Investigative Mechanism), the collaboration between OPCW and the UN, have clearly stated Syria used chemicals weapons... several times... 

    This is a fact
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    my2hands said:
    You guys realize JIM (Joint Investigative Mechanism), the collaboration between OPCW and the UN, have clearly stated Syria used chemicals weapons... several times... 

    This is a fact
    Not in YouTubelandia. Or Moscow.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Nobody has been able to give an explanation as to what the mainstream media has to gain by propping up this conspiracy by western governments.....not to mention explaining what western governments have to gain from this conspiracy.

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    On the flipside, it's pretty obvious what Assad The Peacemaker and Putin The Saviour have to gain from the misinformation campaign

    I've got a bridge to sell somebody 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    On the flipside, it's pretty obvious what Assad The Peacemaker and Putin The Saviour have to gain from the misinformation campaign

    I've got a bridge to sell somebody 
    That's just it. When you stand back and look at the whole picture, this conspiracy, like most, makes no sense.

  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    tbergs said:
    polaris_x said:
    seriously ... what would a pro-trump, pro conservative news station have to gain about lying about their reporting?



    Here's my response to this. They didn't even get to the site either. The government let them get a few blocks away, but yet the OPCW is stranded and unable to get there. Hmmm, I wonder why? What would make the Syrian govt let someone with OANN see certain things and talk to a select group of citizens who all support Assad. Ironic.


    the most important aspect of investigating a chemical attack are eyewitnesses ... we now have significant testimonyy from not only civilians in the area and the doctors who treated the so called attack ... all aligning saying no attack happened ... so, the pro-trump news network claims that they are interviewing random people and you don't believe them ... independent journalists there are also saying the same thing ... but don't believe them either?
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