I have a question about guns

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,894
    edited April 2018
    brianlux said:
    Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?
    All it takes to confirm they're real is to go on Twitter and check if the Tweet exists. And if it's been deleted, there are plenty of mainstream media sources that you can trust about whether or not a Tweet is real. But good job Brian for asking, because as it turns out, this Tweet was NOT real... I forgot to check! ;)
    But my comments about these kinds of comments still stands.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    The Behar tweet is fake. Please do some research before you post such things to try and prove "both sides".

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joy-behar-trump-tower-fire/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?
    All it takes to confirm they're real is to go on Twitter and check if the Tweet exists. And if it's been deleted, there are plenty of mainstream media sources that you can trust about whether or not a Tweet is real. But good job Brian for asking, because as it turns out, this Tweet was NOT real... I forgot to check! ;)
    But my comments about these kinds of comments still stands.
    It's the skeptic in me!  I stand by Lou Reed's words:  "You can't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." 

    Not to distract too much from the subject at hand (because, lord knows, we rarely have threads about guns on AMT), but I get the feeling that one result of social media and internet "news" is that we are living in a world fraught with false information.  Sometimes I have to ask, WTF is really going on in the world?  Is it all smoke an mirrors and deception? 

    Oh how wearisome to be such a cynic!  Sorry!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    Oh, and not meaning to dis your comments at all Alison!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,894
    edited April 2018
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?
    All it takes to confirm they're real is to go on Twitter and check if the Tweet exists. And if it's been deleted, there are plenty of mainstream media sources that you can trust about whether or not a Tweet is real. But good job Brian for asking, because as it turns out, this Tweet was NOT real... I forgot to check! ;)
    But my comments about these kinds of comments still stands.
    It's the skeptic in me!  I stand by Lou Reed's words:  "You can't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." 

    Not to distract too much from the subject at hand (because, lord knows, we rarely have threads about guns on AMT), but I get the feeling that one result of social media and internet "news" is that we are living in a world fraught with false information.  Sometimes I have to ask, WTF is really going on in the world?  Is it all smoke an mirrors and deception? 

    Oh how wearisome to be such a cynic!  Sorry!
    Well, yeah. I think the fact that we're living in a world fraught with false information is one of the biggest stories of our time, right? Fake news is a very real thing... Not Trump's fake news. His fake news is real news, lol. But actual fake news is rampant, and there is almost always a sinister purpose behind it... just like that fake tweet most of us just fell for (at least it made us think about a valid issue I guess).
    And *ahem!* That's 2 L's to you Brian! ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
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    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:


    That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?
    It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ;) ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

    Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 
    Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.
    I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

    I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,184
    tbergs said:
    The Behar tweet is fake. Please do some research before you post such things to try and prove "both sides".

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joy-behar-trump-tower-fire/
    Damn I broke my own rule lol. My bad!! I could have sworn it was real. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?
    All it takes to confirm they're real is to go on Twitter and check if the Tweet exists. And if it's been deleted, there are plenty of mainstream media sources that you can trust about whether or not a Tweet is real. But good job Brian for asking, because as it turns out, this Tweet was NOT real... I forgot to check! ;)
    But my comments about these kinds of comments still stands.
    It's the skeptic in me!  I stand by Lou Reed's words:  "You can't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." 

    Not to distract too much from the subject at hand (because, lord knows, we rarely have threads about guns on AMT), but I get the feeling that one result of social media and internet "news" is that we are living in a world fraught with false information.  Sometimes I have to ask, WTF is really going on in the world?  Is it all smoke an mirrors and deception? 

    Oh how wearisome to be such a cynic!  Sorry!
    Well, yeah. I think the fact that we're living in a world fraught with false information is one of the biggest stories of our time, right? Fake news is a very real thing... Not Trump's fake news. His fake news is real news, lol. But actual fake news is rampant, and there is almost always a sinister purpose behind it... just like that fake tweet most of us just fell for (at least it made us think about a valid issue I guess).
    And *ahem!* That's 2 L's to you Brian! ;)
    Spelling was never my strong suit, Allison,  Sorry! :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,894
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:


    That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?
    It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ;) ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

    Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 
    Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.
    I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

    I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 
    Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    The Behar tweet is fake. Please do some research before you post such things to try and prove "both sides".

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joy-behar-trump-tower-fire/
    Damn I broke my own rule lol. My bad!! I could have sworn it was real. 
    It happens to the best of us McG.  If I thought about some of the things I've seen on the interent that I've fallen for I'd be downright embarrassed!  :bawling:

    Anyway, back to the shoot-em-up theme here...
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,028
    oftenreading said:
    mace1229 said:
    Smellyman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?
    Do you think that she’s not? 
    It's like when people say 'why don't Muslim leaders speak out against terrorism more and stand up to crazy fundamentalists'.  The entire right wing mouthpieces are crazies at fox, breitbart, infowars and so much more psycho sources, but they won't speak out against them because that is actually what they watch and where they get their 'news'.  Or internet memes.
    So now your comparing Laura Ingraham to Muslim Terrorists? Why do we need to speak out against her? Does the left speak out against anything crazy they talk about on The View?   They’ve said some weird stuff on that show, but t I don’t consider them spokeswomen for anyone.
    funny how you think all conservatives watch only fox and bow down to anyone on that channel. Not really accurate, when you consider that 3 million views is a big night for that program and roughly half the country is conservative.
    Yeah, she’s a spokesperson for the right. Has been for a long time. Her television show is by no means her only area of influence, and probably not the largest one. 

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/lifestyle/style/laura-ingraham-was-trump-before-trump-but-is-she-made-for-tv/2017/10/24/d1481916-b50e-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html
    I just really hate ignorant statements like "American right doesn't understand the first amendment" based on one thing one person said.
    I guess you can all her a spokesperson, but with 3 million views a night and 8 million weekly listeners (I don't know how that is measured, is 8 million weekly mean about 1.6 daily?). Either way, it is a very small percentage of the conservative population who listens to her. 
    I was responded to the comment I quoted above, and that really is just ignorant to state or believe that based off of what 1 person says,
    Should I take the dumbest thing said by some liberal commentator and apply that to everyone who didn't vote for Trump? I certainly wouldn't do that.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,894
    mace1229 said:
    oftenreading said:
    mace1229 said:
    Smellyman said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?
    Do you think that she’s not? 
    It's like when people say 'why don't Muslim leaders speak out against terrorism more and stand up to crazy fundamentalists'.  The entire right wing mouthpieces are crazies at fox, breitbart, infowars and so much more psycho sources, but they won't speak out against them because that is actually what they watch and where they get their 'news'.  Or internet memes.
    So now your comparing Laura Ingraham to Muslim Terrorists? Why do we need to speak out against her? Does the left speak out against anything crazy they talk about on The View?   They’ve said some weird stuff on that show, but t I don’t consider them spokeswomen for anyone.
    funny how you think all conservatives watch only fox and bow down to anyone on that channel. Not really accurate, when you consider that 3 million views is a big night for that program and roughly half the country is conservative.
    Yeah, she’s a spokesperson for the right. Has been for a long time. Her television show is by no means her only area of influence, and probably not the largest one. 

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/lifestyle/style/laura-ingraham-was-trump-before-trump-but-is-she-made-for-tv/2017/10/24/d1481916-b50e-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html
    I just really hate ignorant statements like "American right doesn't understand the first amendment" based on one thing one person said.
    I guess you can all her a spokesperson, but with 3 million views a night and 8 million weekly listeners (I don't know how that is measured, is 8 million weekly mean about 1.6 daily?). Either way, it is a very small percentage of the conservative population who listens to her. 
    I was responded to the comment I quoted above, and that really is just ignorant to state or believe that based off of what 1 person says,
    Should I take the dumbest thing said by some liberal commentator and apply that to everyone who didn't vote for Trump? I certainly wouldn't do that.
    I'd say the only proof anyone needs to legitimately claim that the right doesn't understand the first amendment is the fact that they support a president who attacks the first amendment pretty much every day on Twitter.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:


    That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?
    It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ;) ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

    Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 
    Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.
    I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

    I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 
    Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

    Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

    It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:



    Totally fake news bro
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:


    That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?
    It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ;) ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

    Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 
    Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.
    I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

    I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 
    Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

    Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

    It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 
    That's so easy  to do on the internet.  I've been guilty of that a few times.  That preview button can be very handy that way.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    The Behar tweet is fake. Please do some research before you post such things to try and prove "both sides".

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joy-behar-trump-tower-fire/
    Damn I broke my own rule lol. My bad!! I could have sworn it was real. 
    General rule: If it's a picture or meme on social media, it's likely fake.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,894
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:


    That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?
    It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ;) ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

    Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 
    Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.
    I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

    I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 
    Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

    Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

    It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 
    I absolutely do not think that some people thinking the POTUS being dead would be better for everyone is what is making the world more vile right now!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,997
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:


    That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?
    It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ;) ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

    Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 
    Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.
    I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

    I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 
    Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

    Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

    It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 
    I absolutely do not think that some people thinking the POTUS being dead would be better for everyone is what is making the world more vile right now!
    you're a little biased on that one particular position though. many of us are. the point is not the specifics of the comment, but the overall tone of the sentiment. take trump out of it. the subject of the comment is irrelevant. would it be ok for someone to say they wished that Hillary were dead? Or Chelsea? or Eddie Vedder?
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    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

    Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?
    The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:


    That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?
    It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ;) ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

    Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 
    Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.
    I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

    I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 
    Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

    Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

    It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 
    I absolutely do not think that some people thinking the POTUS being dead would be better for everyone is what is making the world more vile right now!

    "Thinking" and "saying" are two different things.
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