I have a question about guns

KC138045 · April 2018

mace1229 said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

That's your problem. If you really wanted to train to fight you should have played Street Fighter 2. Everyone knows that.

Damn it now you tell me. I am pretty great at jumping off stairs onto the top of flag poles and sliding down thanks to Mario Brothers.

oftenreading · April 2018

KC138045 said:

mace1229 said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

That's your problem. If you really wanted to train to fight you should have played Street Fighter 2. Everyone knows that.

Damn it now you tell me. I am pretty great at jumping off stairs onto the top of flag poles and sliding down thanks to Mario Brothers.

So, now you're a fire fighter?

HesCalledDyer · April 2018

KC138045 said:

mace1229 said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

That's your problem. If you really wanted to train to fight you should have played Street Fighter 2. Everyone knows that.

Damn it now you tell me. I am pretty great at jumping off stairs onto the top of flag poles and sliding down thanks to Mario Brothers.

I'm pretty decent at finding my way through dungeons and defeating a monster at the end by hitting it in the eye with a tool I found hidden along the way. You should see all the princesses I've saved. It's funny though bc they all have the same fucking name. I ask one of them if they want to see my legendary blade and they all say yes.

HughFreakingDillon · April 2018

KC138045 said:

mace1229 said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

That's your problem. If you really wanted to train to fight you should have played Street Fighter 2. Everyone knows that.

Damn it now you tell me. I am pretty great at jumping off stairs onto the top of flag poles and sliding down thanks to Mario Brothers.

it's how I beat up cars on weekends.

PJ_Soul · April 2018

KC138045 said:

mace1229 said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

That's your problem. If you really wanted to train to fight you should have played Street Fighter 2. Everyone knows that.

Damn it now you tell me. I am pretty great at jumping off stairs onto the top of flag poles and sliding down thanks to Mario Brothers.

All I ever really mastered was a StarFox barrel roll. :loser:

LongestRoad · April 2018

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

There are bigger issues for some. That's what I and someone else said in previous posts. Everyone that has a gun isnt going out and killing people. Everyone thats playing violent video games and watching violence on tv isn't going out and killing people but people are desensitized to violence from it.

mcgruff10 · April 2018

LongestRoad said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

There are bigger issues for some. That's what I and someone else said in previous posts. Everyone that has a gun isnt going out and killing people. Everyone thats playing violent video games and watching violence on tv isn't going out and killing people but people are desensitized to violence from it.

From my guess about 12 ar-15's out of 3,000,000 were used in mass shootings yet everyone wants to ban them. We are talking about 0.000004% of all ar-15's in circulation. I really think 99.99% of gun owners are responsible but for some reason the majority of people on this forum like to constantly bring up examples showing the opposite.

PJ_Soul · April 2018

I don't think anyone here has ever tried to suggest that the majority of gun owners are irresponsible.

mcgruff10 · April 2018

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think anyone here has ever tried to suggest that the majority of gun owners are irresponsible.

I didn't say that, I said the majority of people here on the boards like to show gun owners being irresponsible.

Go Beavers · April 2018

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think anyone here has ever tried to suggest that the majority of gun owners are irresponsible.

I have a hard time getting a pro-gun person define what responsible gun ownersip and handling means.

mcgruff10 · April 2018

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think anyone here has ever tried to suggest that the majority of gun owners are irresponsible.

I have a hard time getting a pro-gun person define what responsible gun ownersip and handling means.

Are these people friends and family?

PJ_Soul · April 2018

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think anyone here has ever tried to suggest that the majority of gun owners are irresponsible.

I didn't say that, I said the majority of people here on the boards like to show gun owners being irresponsible.

Well no, you did say that (your last sentence), but if that's not what you meant, fair enough. So yeah, many of us like to point out how devastating irresponsible gun owners can be, if that's what you mean. Obviously the entire problem is about safety, so pro-gun regulation folks are of course going to bring up how it is that over 100,000 people per year are hurt or injured by guns in America. That is the whole point. (Yours is not a stat I can believe btw, just on the mathematical level, because there would necessarily be plenty of irresponsible gun owners who are simply lucky enough for their lack of responsibility to not have terrible consequences. The number of gun deaths and injuries doesn't actually tell us how many irresponsible gun owners there are. It only tells us how many irresponsible gun owners managed to injure or kill someone, give or take because of multiple deaths from one gun).

mcgruff10 · April 2018

Let's say there are 50 million gun owners in the usa (which I think is low but whatever) and there are 100,000 "injuries" per year (whatever an injury constitutes)....do the math and that equates to .002%.
25 million gun owners and it is .004%. So If anything I exaggerated.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · April 2018

mcgruff10 said:

LongestRoad said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

There are bigger issues for some. That's what I and someone else said in previous posts. Everyone that has a gun isnt going out and killing people. Everyone thats playing violent video games and watching violence on tv isn't going out and killing people but people are desensitized to violence from it.

From my guess about 12 ar-15's out of 3,000,000 were used in mass shootings yet everyone wants to ban them. We are talking about 0.000004% of all ar-15's in circulation. I really think 99.99% of gun owners are responsible but for some reason the majority of people on this forum like to constantly bring up examples showing the opposite.

It does seem a bit like overkill; however, there are 87,000 flights per day in the USA (31,755,000 per year). The USA had one major incident and sweeping reform for airport security and individual privacy were introduced and somewhat embraced.

I guess the US needs to figure out whether or not they wish to live with the occasional mass shooting to maintain ownership rights or not.

PJ_Soul · April 2018

mcgruff10 said:

Let's say there are 50 million gun owners in the usa (which I think is low but whatever) and there are 100,000 "injuries" per year (whatever an injury constitutes)....do the math and that equates to .002%.
25 million gun owners and it is .004%. So If anything I exaggerated.

Again, I'm saying that's not relevant. That doesn't show how many irresponsible gun owners there are. It only shows how many unlucky ones there are.

mcgruff10 · April 2018

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

LongestRoad said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

There are bigger issues for some. That's what I and someone else said in previous posts. Everyone that has a gun isnt going out and killing people. Everyone thats playing violent video games and watching violence on tv isn't going out and killing people but people are desensitized to violence from it.

From my guess about 12 ar-15's out of 3,000,000 were used in mass shootings yet everyone wants to ban them. We are talking about 0.000004% of all ar-15's in circulation. I really think 99.99% of gun owners are responsible but for some reason the majority of people on this forum like to constantly bring up examples showing the opposite.

It does seem a bit like overkill; however, there are 87,000 flights per day in the USA (31,755,000 per year). The USA had one major incident and sweeping reform for airport security and individual privacy were introduced and somewhat embraced.

I guess the US needs to figure out whether or not they wish to live with the occasional mass shooting to maintain ownership rights or not.

I guess one of the major reasons is one is a constitutional right and the other isnt. I get what you are saying , tough call. If one student gets in a fight do you cancel prom? I don’t know what the right answer is del. I do know that the pizza guy just delivered some pizza at my door!!

Thirty Bills Unpaid · April 2018

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

LongestRoad said:

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

KC138045 said:

LongestRoad said:

oftenreading said:

LongestRoad said:

If you're against guns, surely you must be against anything that has to do with guns including video games etc.

Sure, because people are killed by video games every day.

Basically, it's training them. Guns aren't killing people everyday. People are.

I really hope you don't believe video games are training people. If that was true I'd be playing in the NFL because of all the Madden I've played. I also played Mortal Combat as a kid and it didn't train me to become a Ninja and rip out peoples spines. Violent video games do not turn kids into murderers.

If a child believes they can take what happens in a video game out into the real world then there are bigger issues there than what video games they're playing.

There are bigger issues for some. That's what I and someone else said in previous posts. Everyone that has a gun isnt going out and killing people. Everyone thats playing violent video games and watching violence on tv isn't going out and killing people but people are desensitized to violence from it.

From my guess about 12 ar-15's out of 3,000,000 were used in mass shootings yet everyone wants to ban them. We are talking about 0.000004% of all ar-15's in circulation. I really think 99.99% of gun owners are responsible but for some reason the majority of people on this forum like to constantly bring up examples showing the opposite.

It does seem a bit like overkill; however, there are 87,000 flights per day in the USA (31,755,000 per year). The USA had one major incident and sweeping reform for airport security and individual privacy were introduced and somewhat embraced.

I guess the US needs to figure out whether or not they wish to live with the occasional mass shooting to maintain ownership rights or not.

I guess one of the major reasons is one is a constitutional right and the other isnt. I get what you are saying , tough call. If one student gets in a fight do you cancel prom? I don’t know what the right answer is del. I do know that the pizza guy just delivered some pizza at my door!!

haha!

Lucky bastard. Enjoy!

Kev - Coat and Keys · April 2018

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

mcgruff10 · April 2018

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

Nice broad stroke right there.
Who says America is “deserving” of guns? It is a constitutional right.

Go Beavers · April 2018

mcgruff10 said:

Go Beavers said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think anyone here has ever tried to suggest that the majority of gun owners are irresponsible.

I have a hard time getting a pro-gun person define what responsible gun ownersip and handling means.

Are these people friends and family?

I have a gun nut brother who will talk about responsible gun handling. I’ve seen things with him and my nephew that I would call irresponsible, though. It seems like there’s a lot of individual variation, as well as supporting irresponsible gun handling in the name of 2nd A pride. The common human flaw applies where we think other people are the problem and not ourselves.

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